Hi Sifu,

We have bought a sub-sales house and would like to reno our wet kitchen as current design is not our liking.

We plan to change the wall tiles to White Tile for brighter looks.

Floor tiles will be remain. The lower countertop place will be put gas stove for cooking as there is exhaust fan on top.

We plan to build cabinet on lower part of countertop for more tidy looks.

We do not plan to build cabinet on top part of kitchen as it makes the kitchen looks cramp.

Seeking on sifus advise/idea how to make the wet kitchen looks brighter and modern design.

Apart from having a white wall tile for all kitchen wall and concrete counter as you plan to have, the simplest method you can have is always replace the floor tile with light brownish grey color one and make all new cabinet door white color.

Put in some light timber color wall shelving for cups, bowls and also some decorations will bring in some nature warmness to the kitchen as shown in my quick diagram attached.

But practically, I foreseen you might need top hang cabinet as just with the existing low counter cabinet might not match your daily kitchen storage needs.

Hope this help!




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Hi ehwee

Not sure if this is allowed to ask but I have some questions regarding lighting

This is my layout and the approximate measurements (click image to enlarge)



This is the lighting that I currently planning for the living and dining area



As you can see its gonna be 8x eyeball for the living area, and 7x eyeball + a pendant light for dining area

This is the model of eyeball I planning to get which is dimmable and the lumen figure for 3000k model are - 340lm (5W), 680lm (10W)

https://www.yetplus.com/eye-ball-fixtures/eb963

Questions

i) Is this arrangement enough?

ii) Should I get 5W or 10W if following this arrangement? If not should I reduce the number of lights and use 10W, or increase number of lights and use 5W?

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jun 13 2022, 04:43 PM

Hi, for high rise units, I was thinking of putting sofa bed in the living room and in cases where if there's friends coming over to sleep for a night, how/what can we do to provide some privacy? Do you think fixing a sliding door at the living room will be a good idea? As in fully transparent sliding doors with curtains. Or do you have any better idea?

Effective lighting layout is affected by a lots of factors such as how bright the ambience you prefer for each areas, entertainment, sleeping and working areas can have different brightness.

Other factors like ceiling height, wall color scheme, ceiling design, whether there are any concealed light cove will also affect the lighting set up.

So I can just give you a rough ideas for referencing only.

I think you should get the 10W eyeball, as 5W normally are use in cabinet lighting. I also find out these eyeball you choose have a narrow light beam angles of 24 degrees, you will need more numbers to light up a full wall

Try to get a broader beam angles like 36 or 60 degrees may be, that can bright up the area better.

If you are using a wider beam you can generally space the downlights 1.2 to 1.5 metres. If you are using a concentrated beam light, try spacing them 1 metre away from each other.

I will suggest you having some 12 - 18W LED downlight at the middle of living and dining area. As normally people use eyeball to hightlight the wall, painting and decorations. LED downlights will be more effective and generate a more smooth ambience and even brightness to the space.

here is the lighting layout I suggest for you, hope it give you some alternative ideas!




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whether having sliding door with curtains is effective solutions for temporary partition up a sleeping area for guests is still depend on how they fit you house layout and setting nature. Yet it can be done this way.

Thanks

The reason i go for full LED eyeball is because I saw this post on fb claiming LED downlights are not suitable for small / tight space that involves ceiling fan as it might create shadows.... how true is this?

As long as you position the LED downlights more than1800mm apart from each other and avoid the downlights being obstructed by the ceiling fan should be fine.

thanks

last question

assuming I want to stick to the LED eyeball models i mentioned previously (because its really hard to find one which is more than 24 degree angle and is dimmable)

what would be the ideal spacing between the eyeballs? is 1m between them enough, or around 80cm?

1m spacing should be fine

Sorry I make a typing error just now, should be like this the general position tips:

If you are using a wider beam you can generally space the eyeball lights ( error type it down light) 1.2 to 1.5 metres. If you are using a concentrated beam light, try spacing them 1 metre away from each other.

Hello, may I know whats the procedure for survey/getting quote from ID?

Interested to know what others think about this as well - i know the least that we can do is have a floorplan ready, have a rough idea on the preferred theme and have a budget.

Have you tried qanvast or atap those kind of platform?
Or would it be better to just contact the preferred IDs straight and proceed from there?

Let me use my experience - With a floorplan, you just proceed to chat with an ID, and move on from there. Your ID will ask you on an estimated budget, your preferences, your requirements etc. Then, an proposed quotation will a clear list of everything that is included will be calculated.

Yes, I tried both, n they recommended me a few ID n contacted them few months back. I'm thinking now if should I go thru Atap website n contact those ID (own state) which have the design I like. I really no idea which ID to choose or contact, there are so many of them. As for review, mostly also positive review right? Since ID will try to satisfy house owner like.

This post has been edited by SIEWBAO: Jun 29 2022, 04:43 PM

Will ID estimate the price part by part? There are Plan A & Plan B in my mind, some of the area not sure if i should renovate or not.

You can talk to your ID and see. There were 2 proposals / quotation when I did mine. But that was before any drawings ya.

Speaking from my experience, go thru the ID's project in ATAP again, n find a few design u like.... narrow down to 3~5 ID and ask for proposal (normally they will present u the mood board, the direction they gonna design ur house).

yes, u nid to tell them wat u like, n ID will satisfy house owner but the design sense n idea of designer will b different for every ID. So, it is really depending on the ID to design sth tat match ur taste and budget. Each ID hav their own signature design style.... n if u engage an ID tat is nt good in doing the style u like, tat will b a nightmare....

Just my 2 cents....

This post has been edited by YH820: Jun 30 2022, 03:36 PM

just to add on to this.... finding a reputable ID is important as well

sometimes its not just about the style, but how they manage and run the whole renovation process (assuming you going for design + build). my frd engaged an ID previously, design everything was nice... but when it comes to implementation is a nightmare. numorous delays and subpar quality of materials used, also some design have to be changed because the contractor was not able to do it...

"Each ID hav their own signature design style"
Exactly wad im thinking. I gonna scroll thru the whole ATAP n try to get the design I like. So far I found one, but the ID is from other state.
Actually there is another design I like, still cant decide which to go for.

Yea tats wad im afraid of. Actually shouldnt be the ID n the contractor both come over at the same time to discuss? So anything doesnt make sense or difficulty can be discuss on the spot.