thx a lot for the recommendation

Hi ehwee.
I need help with my kitchen. My house is an intermediate unit. 20x65sqft. For the kitchen itself, its 7x17ft approximately. I attach the plan below. So my concerns are;
1. i love black kitchen cabinet. But would it be too dark for the kitchen since it's an intermediate unit?
2. I'd love to put sliding glass door to separate the kitchen and the dining area. But is it better to only use bar counter instead?
3. As much as i love black cabinet in the kitchen, i want the living area to have brighter furniture and cozier mood. Maybe something like scandinavian theme. Would it be ok if the kitchen and the living area has different theme and colour? I'm still considering the options because the living, dining and kitchen has straight layout. I could see the kitchen directly if i choose bar counter. So if they're of different theme, it won't look really nice i think.

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Hi ehwee, is it possible to move this wardrobe to another room?

Thank you so much for your reply! Really appreciate it! I feel that it's good to get the idea going.

The layout that you provided actually it's quite similar with the house plan provided by the developer except for the dining area.
i like your suggestion for low bench, will definitely consider it when I'm looking for the dining set.



Actually i'm thinking of placing the sofa at the white box, then make a TV console at the orange area, and get a foldable dining table (blue area) since not much space left.



Below is the inspiration for my tv console.



What do you think??

And is it possible for the master bedroom to do reno like this? In term of size? is it recommendable?



Thanks again so much for your time to reply my question!

yes, the way you put kitchen and dining in the same enclosed area looks cramp. If you really wish to separate the dining area with the living area like this, I will suggest you move the divider partition out further align to the full height bar cabinet so the kitchen and dining zone get bigger space.

The empty area at left corner next to the bar counter is actually depend on you as you will know what and how to use the space better than anyone else that is suitable and fit your lifestyle.

May be can put either a lounge sofa or table for casual reading and resting corner, cheers!




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It won't be possible to fully dismantle and reinstall back to new room without damage. Yet, depend on your contractor skills, you can reuse back the sliding doors, hardware if the contractor can do a new wardrobe cascade and frame to fit in these reusable elements.

Yet sometimes, doing a new one will be cheaper than reuse back the old parts, hard to say one.

Yes, workable to have a black kitchen in a Scandinavian home. As in fact Scandinavian doesn't means you have to keep all things in white and light colours. These are many actual home at Nordic countries like Denmark and Norway having dark colour scheme, just search on the net you will see lots of examples.

If you plan to keep kitchen in black and living room in white, i will suggest you keep all ceiling in white colours, then put in some greenery plants in both kitchen and living room. Also try to use the same small portion of light timber like white oak or birch in both area.

As a result, green plants and light timber elements can bring a visual connection between kitchen and living area so these 2 areas can blend in to each others.

Hope this help!

This post has been edited by ehwee: Feb 17 2021, 12:34 PM

thanks

Hi ehwee

I've got a small rectangular kitchen and lack countertop and base cabinets. I'm planning to remodel and make L-shape base cabinets with hob/hood/sink, and with additional outer wrap around base cabinets and quartz countertop all the way until the end of the green wall (wall only about 400mm wide).

On the outer wrap around, I'm thinking to have two base cabinets (facing the 900mm doorway) i.e. a 600mm x 600mm one on the right side (attached to the base cabinet in the photo) and a smaller one on the left side to fit the green wall. But there is a drain hole and drain cover on the floor (you can see it below the rag cloth).

I am considering my options as follows:
1) Can I cover the drain hole up so that I can build in proper outer wrap around base cabinets? It is a condominium.

2) If item 1 is not doable, can I still make the quartz countertop all the way to the end of the green wall with the countertop sticking out at the green wall from the 600mm x 600mm base cabinet without a leg to support? Then make a portable base cabinet on wheels with its own countertop, to fit underneath the quartz countertop so that the drain hole and drain cover are still accessible.

3) Or let the quartz countertop stick out at the green wall and put a leg to support, so no smaller base cabinet here? But I don't really like this idea as it looks like I have a kitchen peninsular next to the toilet.

4) Or just build the 600mm x 600mm base cabinet and let it stick out facing the doorway as an end base cabinet instead of making outer wrap around cabinets?

5) If the outer wrap around cabinet or end cabinet ideas are not good, then is it better to just make buildin cabinets at the 2400mm wall? But the depth can only be 300mm in order to maintain 42inch walking space in between the base cabinets. But I don't really like this idea either because it's kind of cram, the cabinets are narrow and short (probably only 900mm long).

6) Or push the fridge nearer to the 900mm doorway and build a 450mm base cabinet next to it at the 1000mm wall? But this way I still lack countertop space on the left of the stove. Apart from the stove, I always have 3 other appliances in use and a small dishrack on the countertop.

I suppose it's quite weird to have an outer wrap around base cabinets next to the toilet but 12ft countertop and its base cabinet storage space is not sufficient for me as it includes the hob and sink. I also do not like upper cabinets (which I do not use based on experience), prefer some open shelves, railings and rods instead due to functionality.

Thanking you in advance.





This post has been edited by Double Rainbow: Feb 15 2021, 08:56 AM

hi ehwee,

this is my house plan (sorry with no exact measurements). the land size is 22*80

those in red is what i have in mind (please ignore the red box at the end of the house as it was meant to flag as extended area)

appreciate if you could share your thoughts / any other suggestions.

this is an old property and hope to give it a fresh / modern flow. thanks in advance!!

I want to ask as to the arrangement of furniture.

I measure the width of my living room (not including the walkway) and it's about 2700mm.

Do you think it's better to have a rectangular dining table or round? If so, any size recommendations? I feel that the scaling of furniture is important and I'm uncertain.

Also, I really want to get a L-shaped sofa but the ones that I've seen online are 2600-2700mm. This means that it will sit wall-to-walkway area. Any recommendations for sizes of sofa or sofa layout that would not eat up the space? or do you think the L-shaped sofa with 2600-2700mm will look fine (even though it will intrude onto the walkway area)?

Thank you.

Your new layout is workable, just if you still wish to have bigger kitchen like you intended initially, then with this long tv cum storage cabinet, the kitchen will be confine to its original size and the dining area might tight up also.

May be keep the long tv cabinet shorter to reserve some space for more confortable dining and kitchen area is better solution.

as for master bedroom, your plan is quite blur, I can't really see the room dimension. It looks ok to do like the image you shared. Just foreseen the wardrobe area needed to turn on the downlight most of the time to brighten up the area as the most of the natural lights from window will be blocked by the wardrobe.w

Here is the layout adjustment you might consider.




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Hi, if I get your message right, I will suggest you consider place the fridge to the side of your existing L shape base kitchen cabinet. Then you can do a brick wall to cover the back of fridge. This way you solve the issue of floor trap. I will suggest you remain the floor trap for future floor cleaning and plumbing maintenance purpose.

Next you can do a new 450mm depth low cabinet on the opposite right hand wall, this will increasing both your working counter top area and storage space as well.

Here is the layout I suggest for you.

p/s a wrap around counter top like you plan to do might not look nice and practical in long run I reckon, cheers!

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This has been a really constructive thread, thank you ehwee!

After lurking for awhile, its now my turn to ask the question! In your opinion would be the best use of space for this layout?

I'm thinking of keeping it L shaped from the wet kitchen sink, up to just before the dining area, but not a 100% confirmed just yet.

Also since its mostly light cooking, no separation between wet and dry kitchen comes to mind. Keeping it open with the hob/hood closer to the window and door to the yard.
Also planning on just keeping one sink for the kitchen area.



Would love to hear your thoughts with the usage of space here.

Hi ehwee

Thank you for your response. By the way, I've read every post in this thread, it's the most beneficial and sensible thread I ever came across. Kudos to you!!

Hi ehwee

If you don't mind, can I ask a follow up question? Is it possible to have drawers and/or pull-out shelves with doors for the 450mm depth low cabinets, or I don't have a choice and can only make those fixed shelves (which will not be suitable for me) due to the reduced depth?

This post has been edited by Double Rainbow: Feb 21 2021, 12:56 AM

You will to need have 600mm depth cabinet to install those ready made metal kitchen pull out drawers accessories.

450mm cabinet still can have drawer yet need to settle for wooden drawer made by the carpenter.

This post has been edited by ehwee: Feb 21 2021, 12:00 PM

sorry for late reply.

since your dining area need to fit in min 8 pax, it will occupied much larger space on the living area.

In order to have a comfortable tv watching distance and sofa seating set up, I will suggest you position the the piano at the left hand side of the main entrance. Can do a new divider for piano backdrop.

As for dry kitchen, yes the space is consider small to accomodate an island with 6 pax, the max is shown on my layout diagram, can fit in 3 bar stools, yet do take note the walkway around the kitchen will be quite narrow as a result.

it is still ok if you can bear with this condition.




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thank you!!