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SUSxander83
post Mar 25 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 25 2021, 11:02 AM)
I open many time but no that button at all, Jgn2 pun active batch by batch πŸ˜…
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Seems like it by batches doh.gif

QUOTE(doomx @ Mar 25 2021, 11:02 AM)
Im on iOS and i already have it, also funded the rm10 see how it goes

agree with the above, they actually showcase total wallet balance, prefer it to be seperated
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Maybe still batch updating maybe just wait until afternoon doh.gif
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post Mar 25 2021, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 25 2021, 11:13 AM)
I every day press 3 times update, morning, afternoon n night.

I log in log out still the same.

Cis, better do my work first. 😁
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Yeah better do other things that gain more than 1.47%

QUOTE(cr7jyej @ Mar 25 2021, 11:13 AM)
That's why I only put in rm10 for fun πŸ˜‚
Soon haha
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Only good for those unusable credit

CIMB already eaten 0.33% for every ringgit margin too high doh.gif
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post Mar 25 2021, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(cr7jyej @ Mar 25 2021, 11:49 AM)
That's the purpose of this fund i guess, to park the idle/extra credit that you havent use in ur wallet, at least can earn some interest instead of nothing at all, good for heavy/frequent TnG Ewallet user

No point to top-up just to buy this fund and hoping it to grow if you're not a TnG Ewallet frequent user
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Their strategy will fail unless 7 day withdrawals is allowed otherwise Versa will still rules this sector
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post Mar 26 2021, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 25 2021, 08:04 PM)
Until now I still haven't got, so sure is my hp problem.
Can't do anything bcoz old hp ma.

So I decide use my wife hp that is a bit advance than mine.
Direct appears n i upgrade it. Now oledi in MMF.

My hp still not appearing, so just let it.

So confirm is hp problem, πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Not phone but looks like OS issue on iOS 12 cannot support no wonder my testing phone not appearing

Not sure whether on Android 8 or below it is not supported

Maybe still waiting to rollout on those older version

QUOTE(cr7jyej @ Mar 26 2021, 12:37 AM)
First earning , wonder how long will it takes to earn 1 cent with only rm10
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It will take 3.5 weeks to get a cent, around 30 weeks to 10 cents and almost 3 years to one ringgit doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2021, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Mar 26 2021, 07:00 AM)
My iPhone is running iOS 14, no sign of the new feature yet. I suppose they activating it batch by batch.
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Super weird because I tot was OS version

QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 26 2021, 07:17 AM)
My phone is android version 8,
My wife phone is android version 9.

May b due to version.
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Seems like that is case
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post Mar 26 2021, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(lifekiat @ Mar 26 2021, 11:34 AM)
MY Iphone 8 got the GO+, but dint show up in my iphone 12.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Both on ios14?
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post Mar 26 2021, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(lifekiat @ Mar 26 2021, 01:53 PM)
ya both 14.4.1
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Then from your experience confirm it is batch rollout by user account

Mostly likely either by age group based IC since only Malaysians are eligible or either wallet balance to trigger the function

Updates: I can confirm it is batch rollout by user account nothing do with OS

The only thing is that this function is racist why on earth asking user what type race they are doh.gif

This post has been edited by xander83: Mar 26 2021, 03:04 PM
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post Mar 26 2021, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(lifekiat @ Mar 26 2021, 03:30 PM)
Im using the same touch n go e wallet account.
I even tried put balance in GO+ in Iphone 8, and logged in back to my iphone 12, no GO+ feature.
Maybe Iphone 12 is not compatible? lol?
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Maybe log out on your iphone12 account and re login should be the fix issue

Otherwise reinstall the application

I suspect their rollout is very patchy and should have done over the weekend instead
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post Mar 27 2021, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(optional1988 @ Mar 27 2021, 07:42 AM)
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post Mar 27 2021, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Mar 27 2021, 11:18 AM)
Hi just want to ask to purchase this fund we have to pay for government tax? I receive tax voucher after I purchase.
If I sold it off, I will be tax again for my earning?
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Yes for every payout the tax will be deducted automatically as fund expenses as long as you still have balance in the account
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post Mar 27 2021, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(young_97 @ Mar 27 2021, 03:43 PM)
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post Mar 27 2021, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Mar 27 2021, 07:01 PM)
General question - do we expect MMF returns to increase when BNM eventually raises the interest rates?

Basically, will there come a point in time when FD returns will be higher than Versa/Simple?

My understanding is that MMFs have holdings in FDs anyway, so I would expect the returns to also move up in step with any interest rate hike?
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Not necessary because MMF market makers has the right not to increase the rate of returns

The only reason why MMF is higher than FD because of daily compound returns while FD is simple returns

Hence no matter how MMF will outperform FD in terms of return and liquidity

QUOTE(thecurious @ Mar 27 2021, 08:13 PM)
Havent seen a MMF that has a higher return than FD, if there is, please share as well.
MMF returns depend on interest rates so it should go up in theory if BNM raise the base rate.
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There is so many KAF, Versa, SA Simple, Pecef and many more
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post Mar 28 2021, 03:34 AM

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QUOTE(lovingforyou @ Mar 27 2021, 11:16 PM)
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post Mar 28 2021, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Mar 27 2021, 11:21 PM)
Thanks Dragon and Xander, should have mentioned promo FD rates. I see the returns for SA simple and versa are higher than non-promo FD rates tho but not higher than promo rates.
Mind sharing what is Pecef? never heard of it.
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Promo FD rates are inconsistent as it depends on each bank whether they need to shore up capital which is why there disadvantage because the returns are inconsistent couple with locked up period illiquid capital

You better off buying MMF for its liquidity period 4 days in a week coupled with at least 10% higher than OPR anytime

So far Versa has the best in terms of functionality liquidity followed by Simple and Pecef and the worse of the worse of Go+ which load of rubbish when you can get OPR rates from Frank

Pecef it is from Public Mutual but not sure of its liquidity because not many here are using it

It is the latest competitor to Versa but coming from Public Group should not be that fantastic

Rather put in the money by its shares or holding company which gives solid dividend returns
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post Mar 28 2021, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Leroi2x @ Mar 28 2021, 08:48 AM)
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post Mar 28 2021, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Mar 28 2021, 10:24 AM)
Thanks all for the input. If its for liquidity with some earnings, why not high interest savings accounts? Is it because MMF has no requirements to fulfil?
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High interest savings account there is conditional interest with spend requirements hence it is still won’t grow your money which total rubbish when the year named it as high interest savings which is misleading

MMF are designed for flexibility and liquidity purposes but with the anything under 2% OPR and as long as they can give returns of 2.1% they will grow for now until when inflation hits back in Malaysia at 3% then BNM will have to hike rates

Even with those so called FD promo are mostly rubbish for 1 year with simple interest of fixed rate while MMF will outperform them at variable rate with compounding unless anything more than 30% higher than OPR at least 3%

You can try 6months and you should a difference


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post Mar 28 2021, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 28 2021, 11:35 AM)
Even with high OPR it's good. I remember I use to get 3.7-3.8% with MMF.
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MMF at those days are too strict compared to now because minimum deposit hence lower returns. In MMF the returns are mostly depending on market cap which you can see with Versa at least underlying fund of rm2.2 billion to be efficient to give at least 20% more than OPR

MMF are supposed to yield a total least 20% more than OPR but most fund houses screwed themselves up as you can see with Principal itself only on par with OPR because expense ratio deducted

Go+ will deemed as failure as compared to Versa because in terms of liquidity and returns. Unless KAF has a digital product you will still see Versa ruling the market.
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post Mar 28 2021, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 28 2021, 02:33 PM)
Last time I was using Phillip Money Market fund. It was best fund on the market before Versa came along.

It give same day withdrawal if withdraw to Maybank account before 11am and rates were not bad. Nowadays rates not so good.
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I suspect their MMF is not doing so well because liquidity issue hence which is why is the returns are getting poor

You should benchmark with SG MMF mostly are going downhill to giving less than 1% on some fund houses
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post Mar 28 2021, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Mar 28 2021, 06:03 PM)
why u go for versa not go direct to the affin hwang platform allocate to buy the MMF?
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Versa next business day withdrawal while Affin Hwang will be 3 days later
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post Mar 28 2021, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Mar 28 2021, 06:32 PM)
Go+ has the best liquidity among all the money market funds out there currently. Instant withdrawal to TNG EWallet even on weekends. It takes longer though if you want to transfer to bank account.
RHB Smart Account is giving 2.85% p.a. interest if a few conditions are met. No money market fund that I am aware of offer a better rate than that consistently.
High interest savings account are not rubbish and there is nothing misleading about it at all. You just need to understand how it works. If you are smart in using it, you won't have to actually spend more just to get the higher interest. It offers even greater liquidity than any money market fund and the principal and interest is guaranteed.
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Instant withdrawal to ewallet is not liquid because ewallet is not actual currency hence it is defeat the purpose of money which supposed to be universal exchange and interchangeable as a currency because it is failed unless actual ewallet cash out function is implemented



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