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post Feb 9 2021, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 9 2021, 09:22 AM)
withdraw some money from stashaway simple. Going to pump more to versa.
This month, the dividend received compare with last month is lesser[same amount per month]. Based on the calculation, it around 1.8%+.

So far love the idea from versa that it gave overnight interest when deposit. This is due to delay to appear on app. wont see this on stashaway. Plus for versa

What i am going to do is, match both stashaway and versa & see their dividend comparison.
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Eastspring fund on SA it’s gonna be lower this year plus with the slower transaction execution time it’s gonna put a lot of people unless Simple is buying multiple funds to cover the gains which hopefully will happen soon rclxms.gif
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post Feb 10 2021, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 9 2021, 06:31 PM)
so managed to invest via allocate plus.

whatsapp them the issue on friday - and they managed to manually open an account by linking to my PRS account. then took 2 days to update my mistyped OTP. just managed to invest RM50, see how long it takes for 1st transaction.
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Must be rm50 on enhanced deposit rclxms.gif
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post Feb 10 2021, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 10 2021, 07:22 AM)
Why must be RM 50?
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Mini depo to try rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Feb 10 2021, 10:05 AM)
No i get confused.

I dun care about dividend or what becasue UT dividen is useless. And the lifetime gain is preety not on point. Thats just the price difference isnt it.

The price update should be daily. But versa seem delay abit.
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Dividends in UT is subject fund manager performance and approval given as a payout. On Versa, lifetime gain is only to reflect the interest sitting earning on your deposit and shouldn’t be compared dividends as payout is given and dividends is only subject approved giveaway. doh.gif

The price are update daily because it based on 4 integer pricing which currently at 1.1723 and interest should payout every fortnight Saturday depending on when your deposits is executed

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 10 2021, 02:32 PM)
MMF is a type of UT actually
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It is the most highly traded and liquid UT as it is more flexible than TIA and FD thumbsup.gif
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post Feb 12 2021, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 12 2021, 07:25 AM)
Gong xi fa chai! Versa giving payout...in progress
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Let’s see what their angpau gonna be like on Monday rclxms.gif
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post Feb 14 2021, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Feb 14 2021, 05:39 PM)
like that i also can be economist or analysis lol
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Anybody or everybody who is financial savvy can be one just that whether famous or not

The cut was already expected since last year when Fitch downgrade the ratings so it’s not surprising because the year just wanna weaken the ringgit now

Anything below 1.5% will be disasterous for ringgit and you can see ringgit will drop below 4.20

Time to buy more USD now rclxms.gif
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post Feb 14 2021, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Feb 14 2021, 06:02 PM)
Careful on the crude oil price

BNM may be pressured by government to cut another 0.25%
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March cut is already confirmed cut

Wait till q4 surprise November cut rclxms.gif
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post Feb 14 2021, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 14 2021, 06:20 PM)
cut cut cut. young ppl with loan will be happy
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Now happy but in 2023 gonna cry because Rate increase will be very swift to cover back the cuts

Malaysia anything less than 3% banks will cry because now loans take up and disbursements is also low as well

Demand for loans are less as well as deposits are drying due to all buying bonds and equities rclxms.gif
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post Feb 16 2021, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 16 2021, 06:55 AM)
Payout completed...
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Must be big payout one rclxms.gif
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post Feb 16 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 16 2021, 08:10 AM)
Yes, I believe the same! CNY bonus on the way!  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 16 2021, 09:00 AM)
lol...enuf for normal angpow. still testing but at least it really 2 week rather than stashaway need to wait a month
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Got try to compare with using Allocate plus?
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post Feb 20 2021, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 20 2021, 10:56 PM)
I now use versa only. Last return on the app mentiond fund give 2.46%p.a On website said 2.4%. Very decent.

Stashaway is slow.
Versa is faster in withdrawal.
Not sure about liquidity for versa. Going to test soon. It's basically T+1 day.

Account opening is very easy. All from app.
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Make sure you check your account after 6pm next business day

Next weekend another payout coming soon rclxms.gif
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post Feb 21 2021, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 21 2021, 12:00 AM)
I  checked out StashAway  thread, opened Account,i used desktop website.
dumped RM50k ,max from Jompay,
payout monthly, calculated daily not bad

T+3D, means on Thursday 25.2.21 i can see my deposit online?

I noticed StashAway used Citibank, so for faster time to receive the withdrawal money which bank (other than Citibank)
is better, any one?

(My experience with eUT PMMF, Maybank is the best, consistently received money by 5.00pm same day)
Versa payout weekly and Liquidity T+1 is better than StashAway, return  same?

Now gonna check out Versa.
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No difference with any bank when withdrawal time because all are using FOX to transfer the money Fromm the trustee in Citibank

Stashaway simple calculation payout monthly while Versa payout every fortnight

Versa advantages only when deposit during weekend after Friday 12pm subjected extra overnight interest coupled next business day 6pm withdrawal time which is good if you need quick liquidity

Both are currently earning 0.2% per month waiting to see whether Versa can beat last year indicative of 2.46% which most likely will subjected to current OPR
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post Feb 21 2021, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 21 2021, 09:29 AM)
Thanks for the info, so Versa is  like  SA return 2.4% with better liquidity and daily interest

where can i read about Versa in here, cant find the dedicated thread.

I find it safer to use link provided in here  rather than search in google .

Money market  sure get alot more attention now FD so low
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FD is only because it more accessible compared to MMF but it will be changing now due to more platforms are encouraging more MMF onboard

QUOTE(chongteck @ Feb 21 2021, 05:59 PM)
Wow.. as I am not well-versed in this NAV, so I must ask..do we usually need to time our investment then, in this case, every two weeks only after payout? Will it make any big difference? blink.gif
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Because the amount is so small there is no need to time it a simple it doesn’t make any difference

But always make on Versa to deposit on every long weekend and the weekend that is not being offered payout ie 1st and 3rd weekend to enjoy extra overnight deposit brows.gif
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post Feb 21 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 21 2021, 06:23 PM)
How much extra are we talking about? What is the rate in per annum term?
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Extra of RM0.01 per RM100 or RM0.08 per RM500 or RM0.15 per RM1000 or RM1.40 per RM10000

Not much per annum because the overnight weekend returns only kicks in when you deposit every time on the weekend

The purpose of the overnight deposit is to compensate your deposit earnings which are earning interest but indifferent way as compared to normal holdings due to slower execution time
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post Feb 22 2021, 05:44 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 21 2021, 06:53 PM)
Nope . I received overnight interest when posit on weekday. Just that not a lot compare to weekend
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Didn’t you post it on the Friday?

I think overnight weekend interest are factor in when you’re deposit in the weekend while weekdays interest are being added into the units instead

Will know when next month will try do to rotation then on my funds will roughly know on the calculation then

But expect to be about rm1 to rm1000 deposit per month ratio on monthly basis on just interest only

Bonus payout calculation is possibly another rm0.23 to rm1000 per month o let’s whether towards mid year end more deposits coming in

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post Feb 22 2021, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 22 2021, 06:47 AM)
Wow, got bonus payout somemore!
What is this bonus payout? What is the rate in term of per annum?
Versa got a lot of hidden extra handouts. Not bad.
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Everybody 2 weeks is the bonus payout as the fund uses it as a tool to rebalance the unit and price for it

The rate should be around 0.3 to 0.5 per annum indicative based on the current market price trend

So the actual fund it is performing on 1.9% pa on their pricing units

Will know after next month when q1 is done whether it will exceed 2% for 2021
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post Feb 22 2021, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 22 2021, 08:46 AM)
so StashAway Simple is better? reported as 2.4% pa.
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Simple is fixed indicative 2.4% but Versa is better in terms of liquidity as you when you withdraw is next businesses day

Reported doesn’t mean guaranteed as it is indicative rate only

QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 22 2021, 09:12 AM)
Low interest rates attracts more players into the money market

ETALING JAYA: The prevailing low interest rates have attracted more money market funds (MMFs) into the domestic market.

Based on the Lipper data, the total size of these funds currently stands at RM110bil. This represents less than 10% of the total deposits market.

The time is ripe according to analysts for such funds to gain prominence in the market as MMFs provide higher returns than deposit rates amid the Covid-19.

They expect the key benchmark interest rate – the overnight policy rate (OPR) which determines the cost of borrowings – to be cut by at least 25 basis points this year, hence a lower deposit rate. This augurs well for the pick up of these funds.

Among some of the players making headway in the MMF space are Versa, Stashaway and Touch ‘n Go. More are joining the bandwagon, one analyst noted.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...he-money-market
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Wait for TnG with CGS CIMB MMF soon then we will know whether it can hit 2.5% more competition better for us consumers rclxms.gif
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post Feb 22 2021, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 22 2021, 09:29 AM)
Not with Principal Asset Management?
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Unless they going for Shariah based then Principal Islamic MMF

If conventional would be CGS CIMB

Rumormill is saying launching on March 8 so keeps your eye so peeled rclxms.gif
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post Feb 22 2021, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Feb 22 2021, 12:36 PM)
But why ppl might still using SA.

If this is better?
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Yes for liquidity purpose because withdrawal received next business day

QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 22 2021, 03:01 PM)
Currently using both. Have put in roughly equal amount of money to track their individual performance.

If you mean transfers between bank account and Versa/SA, so far I've never gotten any warnings from bank, but my bank is used to large sums of money suddenly moving in/out my account 😅 I think for banks they mostly want to find out your source of funds and that they're legit clean money (not from criminal activities/money laundering/terrorist financing), so if you transfer from SA/Versa they usually won't get red flags because they're legitimate entities registered under Malaysia Securities Commission.
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SA and versa no issue because all transaction staff are conducted in RM hence AMLA will not happen unless a police warrant on a suspected person account which both Versa and SA have segregated account which will not affect the majority of the holders
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post Feb 22 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 22 2021, 06:39 PM)
in that case SA better, while waiting for Versa to verify my newly opened account, i dumped more and more to SA.
huge amount means? 500k or 1 M?

my newly opened Stashaway already pumped in JOMPAY 360k so far like that can get queried?
probably more tomorrow as Versa rate not so good , need to be scared  meh?
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Versa only take 3 days to open Andy process deposit hence better gains than Simple which takes a week which you loss of opportunity of gaining interest

Whoever dump 500k or 1million must be a cash rich person who don’t want to make more money because the gain starts on the upside will only hit 200 to 400 per month hence will be wiped out easily by inflation doh.gif
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post Feb 23 2021, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(doomx @ Feb 23 2021, 02:43 PM)
versa pretty fast in buying into the funds but then it will be reflected abit slower on the app

took around 2 days to buy into the fund and then another 3 days to be reflected in the app. as long as buy into the funds d i dont really care when it is reflected in the app actually.

so far faster than SA simple
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Before 12pm deposit the buy order is on the same business day and reflected in the app 3 days because of the back office statement which are a bit slow on their end which I hope they will improve just like their withdrawal process which takes at least 30 hours to be processed

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