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post Apr 7 2021, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 6 2021, 11:49 PM)
You don't always have to flex to prove a point you know. Just saying.
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I personally like the way he flex- lol!

humble flex with points and showing /k 20k standard is not a myth


QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 7 2021, 09:53 AM)
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as per 2018 article....
A net worth of $93,170 U.S. (abt RM400k) is enough to make you richer than 90 percent of people around the world, Credit Suisse reports.
The institute defines net worth, or “wealth,” as “the value of financial assets plus real assets (principally housing) owned by households, minus their debts.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/how-much-mo...-worldwide.html

in 2019 report, 3.7% Malaysians was placed in the US$100,000 to US$1 million wealth band.
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2019/10/22/...wealth-bracket/
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any report for 2020 yet? pls do share!

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post Apr 7 2021, 01:20 PM

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A bit regret did not put bigger portion on this
Anyhow, if you know what you are doing and the risk involved, just go ahead.

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post Apr 7 2021, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Apr 7 2021, 01:20 PM)
A bit regret did not put bigger portion on this
Anyhow, if you know what you are doing and the risk involved, just go ahead.

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That's 3-4 years return. Faster returns.
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post Apr 7 2021, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 7 2021, 01:27 PM)
That's 3-4 years return. Faster returns.
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I think 1st deposit was 2019

3rd quarter of 2019
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farizmalek
post Apr 7 2021, 02:31 PM

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UT depends on agent. Dah kena tipu dua kali serik dah

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post Apr 7 2021, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Apr 7 2021, 12:59 PM)
I personally like the way he flex- lol! 

humble flex with points and showing /k 20k standard is not a myth
any report for 2020 yet? pls do share!
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Lol. Well the one showing 20k with 16% return is actually okay. But showing a screenshot of your total epf and asb in almost every reply is just showing off. It’s 10% substance and 90% bragging. Just my opinion though lol

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post Apr 7 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Apr 7 2021, 01:20 PM)
A bit regret did not put bigger portion on this
Anyhow, if you know what you are doing and the risk involved, just go ahead.

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May i know do you guys choose which UT to invest in on your own and is it cheaper than say going thru public mutual?
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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 7 2021, 03:22 PM)
May i know do you guys choose which UT to invest in on your own and is it cheaper than say going thru public mutual?
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Public mutual high sales charges...
buying from banks may also has high sales charges too

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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 7 2021, 03:22 PM)
May i know do you guys choose which UT to invest in on your own and is it cheaper than say going thru public mutual?
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1st experience with dad, then banker then lowyat forum.

Buy thru agent/banker definitely expensive. Recommend thru EPF, FSM, eunitrust.

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post Apr 7 2021, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 7 2021, 03:22 PM)
May i know do you guys choose which UT to invest in on your own and is it cheaper than say going thru public mutual?
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Research online. Buy through EPF or FSMOne is far cheaper than thorough bank/bank's agents
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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 7 2021, 03:22 PM)
May i know do you guys choose which UT to invest in on your own and is it cheaper than say going thru public mutual?
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Go to FSM thread and read first page. There are some basics when it come to picking unit trust. Do not trust agent at any cost. They are only interested in making their bank account fatter.

Avoid public mutual. Use FSM or eunittrust Malaysia.
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Yup I am showing off, Jangan sentap
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QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 7 2021, 09:27 PM)
Yup I am showing off, Jangan sentap
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😄 1.2 sentap ape, move to a bigger pond and feels small la
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post Apr 8 2021, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 7 2021, 03:24 PM)
Public mutual high sales charges...
buying from banks may also has high sales charges too
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Apr 7 2021, 04:08 PM)
1st experience with dad, then banker then lowyat forum.

Buy thru agent/banker definitely expensive. Recommend thru EPF, FSM, eunitrust.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Apr 7 2021, 04:15 PM)
Research online. Buy through EPF or FSMOne is far cheaper than thorough bank/bank's agents
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 7 2021, 04:16 PM)
Go to FSM thread and read first page. There are some basics when it come to picking unit trust. Do not trust agent at any cost. They are only interested in making their bank account fatter.

Avoid public mutual. Use FSM or eunittrust Malaysia.
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Thanks for your replies. Much appreciated. I try not to touch my epf at all but right now I'm looking at the options and the returns. Have always been avoiding agents but I didn't realize that we can invest in UT on our own and save on the agent fees. I'll try to read up more on the fees.

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QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 7 2021, 09:27 PM)
Yup I am showing off, Jangan sentap
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QUOTE(hedfi @ Apr 7 2021, 10:45 PM)
😄 1.2 sentap ape, move to a bigger pond and feels small la
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post Apr 8 2021, 05:00 AM

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For some reason, there is a bad reputation on unit trust investment using epf-mis scheme, what i can say is previously the sales charge using agent is high. There is conflict of interest in whatever advise they are giving. Now it is 0% through epf-mis portal for funds under FSM and even Public mutual.

Just thing to take note 0% sales charge for public mutual is actually a promotion which ends this month. it could revert to 0.5%.

Somd fund have switching fee and even redemption fee. I make use of the 0% sales charge to make short term trade which some would not agree because this is unit trust. Make use of the 0% sales charge to trade and make use of short term opportunity.

Started from last year march using DCA. I have realized around 20k profit and unrealized is around 26k. Planning to realized the remaing once i reach my personal target. Could have made more if i dont DCA but at least i can sleep well.

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QUOTE(farizmalek @ Apr 7 2021, 09:27 PM)
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It depends on your age also.
If 1 million epf in your 30s, that is amazing
If it is in 40s respectable
If it is in 50s, i dont think it needs to be mentioned at all.

I am an average salary man in my industry, i will reach 1 million in 6-7 years (mid 40s by the time i reach that mark) but only because my 2nd account has almost zero balance. The assumption was based on interest of 5% and 0% increment.

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post Apr 8 2021, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Apr 8 2021, 06:16 AM)
It depends on your age also.
If 1 million epf in your 30s, that is amazing
If it is in 40s respectable
If it is in 50s, i dont think it needs to be mentioned at all.

I am an average salary man in my industry, i will reach 1 million in 6-7 years (mid 40s) but only because my 2nd account has almost zero balance. The assumption was based on interest of 5% and 0% increment.
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At age 55, its worth mentioning only if the contributor has at
least 2M and above
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post Apr 8 2021, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Apr 8 2021, 07:46 AM)
At age 55, its worth mentioning only if the contributor has at
least 2M and above
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It depends on perspective i guess, we are talking and comparing with our own, i know some forumer here have more than 4 million in epf alone from combination of mandatory and self contribution. That guy probably laugh at that 2 million figure.
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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 8 2021, 03:12 AM)
Thanks for your replies. Much appreciated. I try not to touch my epf at all but right now I'm looking at the options and the returns. Have always been avoiding agents but I didn't realize that we can invest in UT on our own and save on the agent fees. I'll try to read up more on the fees.
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Just use EPF i-akuan. Before this I avoid using EPF money cause too much hassle. Now with i-akuan, it makes life easier.

Of course picking the wrong unit trust = getting less than EPF returns.

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