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Holocene
post Jun 28 2024, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(torres09 @ Jun 27 2024, 11:27 PM)
Hi sifu's here. I have a few questions here regarding my investments with Public Mutual from my EPF account 1.

1. How do you know if the returns from PM is lower or higher than what you would've got if you had kept the money in EPF account 1?
2. My way of calculation is (since I didn't touch my EPF account 2), I take my current account 2 balance as 30%, and assume how much should my EPF account 1 70% should be. For example, if I have 30k in my account 2 now, my account 1 should have 70k, if I did not withdraw to EPF. Is this method correct?
3. I am very confused with how PM show the fund performance in PMO app. The returns are shown as total unrealised P/L from the total investments into the fund. For example, I might see a return of 70% which seems great, but considering it has been more than 10 years without top up, it actually isn't that great. In 10 years considering an average of 5% EPF dividend, my money would've doubled! Isn't this misleading?
Hopefully someone can enlighten me as I am not invested in other unit trust funds except PM.
Thanks.
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Date: Base on withdrawal date
Amount: Capital injected

You will then be able to determine the annualised return of your investment and conclude if your investments have outperformed EPF.

In your example of 70% return in 10 years (assume), you're looking at an annualised return of 5.44%, just about EPF return. The questions will be if it's worth the risk you're taking. If it's more than 10 years like what you mentioned, you probably want to reassess your investments.

Hope this helps.

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post Jul 2 2024, 01:27 PM

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so this kaf y'all like so much... dead/flat for 7 years... surge for 6-9 months... dead again for 2 years... now moving again...

anyone know why or reason for the current move...?

yes its consistent rising now but not really in the past... classify as high risk...

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post Jul 3 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jul 2 2024, 01:27 PM)
so this kaf y'all like so much... dead/flat for 7 years... surge for 6-9 months... dead again for 2 years... now moving again...

anyone know why or reason for the current move...?

yes its consistent rising now but not really in the past... classify as high risk...

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New fund manager that's more aggressive than the past fund manager.

They exited glove stock at close to the peak and reallocated the profits to other sectors, now you can see the result of the seeds sow.

If you refer to their annual report from 31/8/2023, you will find some interesting information on why it's seeing a upwards movement.

DYODD.

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post Jul 3 2024, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Jul 3 2024, 03:26 PM)
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New fund manager that's more aggressive than the past fund manager.

They exited glove stock at close to the peak and reallocated the profits to other sectors, now you can see the result of the seeds sow.

If you refer to their annual report from 31/8/2023, you will find some interesting information on why it's seeing a upwards movement.

DYODD.
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Can share the interesting info?


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post Jul 3 2024, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Jul 3 2024, 03:26 PM)
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New fund manager that's more aggressive than the past fund manager.

They exited glove stock at close to the peak and reallocated the profits to other sectors, now you can see the result of the seeds sow.

If you refer to their annual report from 31/8/2023, you will find some interesting information on why it's seeing a upwards movement.

DYODD.
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thank you so much

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