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 Do you know JWWBirch is actually good guy?, lets remember our nation's hero. 😥

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post May 12 2020, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(letitsnow @ May 12 2020, 12:36 PM)
He's the only one got assassinated. Other residents no problem at all.

The problem is good intention, but bad execution. Just like DAP leaders.
It takes a good understanding on social and psychology of targeted community and calculate the best way to execute the plan.

You try advice or even ask old timers to change something obsolete that they used to for decades. They wont budge bcoz of ego.
But if you tell a (made up) story about the benefits of new way experienced by others (trying not to sounds like giving advice), some of them would accept.
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but this is not about changing your car or change your bedsheets. lol i understand where u come from, but a bit bodoh.

you try telling the slaves that is chained, eh u tunggu jap benda2 ni kena cakap baik baik x boleh overnight u be a free man, tahan few more years ye suffer sikit xpe, nanti i dah kawan kawan with your tuan then i suruh die lepaskan u.

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post May 12 2020, 12:40 PM

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stop getting your worldview from wikipedia, the one-stop site for white imperialism smile.gif
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post May 12 2020, 12:40 PM

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Is that why songlap and don't bite the hand that feeds you still lives on till today?
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post May 12 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ May 12 2020, 12:40 PM)
stop getting your worldview from wikipedia, the one-stop site for white imperialism smile.gif
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ini bukan worldview la, not opinions. is historical fact.
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post May 12 2020, 12:41 PM

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wow.. lot of historian here now..
jww birch is good..commies is good..
what else.. yup..only jap is no good coz they defeat the ccp..

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post May 12 2020, 12:41 PM

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Meanwhile british liberate china from feudal dynasty..

Give medicine really needed by sick chinese.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
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post May 12 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(feynman @ May 12 2020, 12:06 PM)
yup.....he wanted to "modernise" Perak.....one of the steps taken was to abolish slavery....but this wiill destroy the livelihoods of the orang besar.......You do know, that malays go into the jungle to enslave jakuns and negritos and whatever orang asli you can find inside....

Birch could have done better, be more diplomatic in modernising Perak...but of course, abrasive.

It's inaccurate to portray some anti-british malay figures as heros......because they have got their own agenda to go against the british....also, the british did not attack the Malay states per se, they were invited by the elites themselves to get involved in malay political struggles.

Lu sendiri tak sayang negeri sendiri, cari orang putih kasi campur tangan, maka lu gadai/khianat tanahair sendiri. Mau tuduh, tuduhlah orang sendiri, orang yang gadai negara, bukan british. Very true is today's UMNO vs PPBM VS PAS struggle, anything also can jual, anything also can gadai and compromise for the sake of power. No spine, no values, no virtues.....all orang kecil
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post May 12 2020, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(badbigboys @ May 12 2020, 12:41 PM)
wow.. lot of historian here now..
jww birch is good..commies is good..
what else.. yup..only jap is no good coz they defeat the ccp..
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sejarah malaysia about malaysia and british??? ccp pulak masuk
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post May 12 2020, 12:42 PM

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So sape penjahat?
akutaksempurna
post May 12 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:41 PM)
ini bukan worldview la, not opinions. is historical fact.
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History is written by winner. If you dont understand this fact maybe you should study more
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post May 12 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(pot-8-O's @ May 12 2020, 12:03 PM)
bumi ini milik siapa
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literally
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post May 12 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(akutaksempurna @ May 12 2020, 12:43 PM)
History is written by winner. If you dont understand this fact maybe you should study more
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but in this case winner is malaysia wor. so....malaysia history not accurate is true la. hehehehe
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post May 12 2020, 12:45 PM

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I thought he wasnt 100% evil like our school history books like to suggest even when I was still in Form 5. He allegedly protected a slave who took shelter in his home.

But the truth is not black or white. Whether or not Birch was an asshole, or if Raja Abdullah and his chiefs were inhuman slave torturers, i dont think we can safely say that either of them were ever 'heroes'. Both were playing the game of thrones with dirty tricks.


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post May 12 2020, 12:45 PM

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White man's burden.
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post May 12 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:02 PM)
Maharajalela's offer to stab Birch to death.
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Stab it budaya, depan or belakang don't matter
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post May 12 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(poks @ May 12 2020, 12:46 PM)
Stab it budaya, depan or belakang don't matter
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lagi stab whewn orang putih mandi naked dalam bath tub. giggity boleh lah main main bebird jap
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post May 12 2020, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:43 PM)
but in this case winner is malaysia wor. so....malaysia history not accurate is true la. hehehehe
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To say 100% not accurate is not true either.

If you go to USA for example, will their history admit that they "rampas" red indian's land and committed genocide, rape to the local population that time.

Thats why history is written by winner la..

Historian generally do their research by comparing multiple sources unlike you use Wikipedia to spread misinformatiom and racism.

Its true that he tried to abolish some of these local custom, but you think JWW Birch came to do charity not as a conqueror of Malaya??

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British excuse la
Important is tin mining revenue all gone to them,to cover south sea bubble lost
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post May 12 2020, 12:50 PM

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We got slavery last time?
Maybe he misunderstood the tradition of the local people.
To him it is slavery but to certain interpretation in certain xxx, it is employment.

So we cannot trust the sos put up by TS.
All got the taint of agenda Y
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post May 12 2020, 12:51 PM

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Malaysian folklore full of backstabbers..

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4755320&hl=

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