Good guy wont survive in politics
Do you know JWWBirch is actually good guy?, lets remember our nation's hero. 😥
Do you know JWWBirch is actually good guy?, lets remember our nation's hero. 😥
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May 12 2020, 12:13 PM
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Good guy wont survive in politics
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May 12 2020, 12:13 PM
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Meaning cronyism budaya kita?
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May 12 2020, 12:16 PM
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May 12 2020, 12:20 PM
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All rebel against british in colonial time are spark because geng2 pembesar losing their power and monies..
All except one.. Tok Janggut from pasir puteh kelantan.. a commoner.. fight the brit because they raise tax to the poor |
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May 12 2020, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(tupai @ May 12 2020, 12:08 PM) Birch died in 1874.....slavery was abolished by amendment to the constitution in 1865......... QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ May 12 2020, 12:09 PM) Please remember first chapter of history : amboi why you so dungu?.....textbook say one thing, make sure you don't write another thing on the exam script lah.....why be lawyer buruk? You mau pandai tunggu after SPM1) only accept Malaysia interpretation 2) ang moh version always paint themselves as good guy Jangan persoal if you want score A Sincerely, Aku skor Sejarah spm B3 QUOTE(dickybird @ May 12 2020, 12:09 PM) Nowadays they on sic the macc and polis on you. A but more civilised. Haha Yes.....he was exiled......but the fruit of that exile is the tune of the negaraku..........he heard that tune and made it an anthem for PerakDidnt Perak lose a sultan over this? |
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May 12 2020, 12:24 PM
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He was murdered because he was rude and disrespectful. The malays were not necessarily aggressive toward the British.
Ada je beberapa pegawai British yang disukai orang melayu. Contohnya Swettenham, Templer etc. |
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May 12 2020, 12:25 PM
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May 12 2020, 12:26 PM
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May 12 2020, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ May 12 2020, 12:24 PM) He was murdered because he was rude and disrespectful. The malays were not necessarily aggressive toward the British. yeap he was rude and disrespectful to the culture back then to songlap, crony and slavery. orang malaysia x suka changes, and only suka doggy that follow whatever the status quo.Ada je beberapa pegawai British yang disukai orang melayu. Contohnya Swettenham, Templer etc. can be seen throughout history, take western countries for example Martin Luther King - rude to white people by advocate of black rights and ending slavery Harvey Milk - rude to conservatists straight people by advocate of LGBT rights Sophie Scholl - rude to hitler and nazi by being anti nazi. This post has been edited by Ned_Fromthenorth: May 12 2020, 12:30 PM |
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May 12 2020, 12:29 PM
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i read Birch kacau awek melayu?
or i read wrong versi?? |
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May 12 2020, 12:30 PM
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Nice to know our colonial masters were our liberators!
Cukur! |
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May 12 2020, 12:31 PM
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Don't trust these "feudal" chiefs....its a reason they are call "feudal".....
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May 12 2020, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:28 PM) yeap he was rude and disrespectful to the culture back then to songlap, crony and slavery. orang malaysia x suka changes, and only suka doggy that follow whatever the status quo. Lololololcan be seen throughout history, take western countries for example Martin Luther King - rude to white people by advocate of black rights and ending slavery Harvey Milk - rude to conservatists straight people by advocate of LGBT rights Sophie Scholl - rude to hitler and nazi by being anti nazi. |
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May 12 2020, 12:31 PM
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May 12 2020, 12:33 PM
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May 12 2020, 12:34 PM
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May 12 2020, 12:36 PM
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He's the only one got assassinated. Other residents no problem at all.
The problem is good intention, but bad execution. Just like DAP leaders. It takes a good understanding on social and psychology of targeted community and calculate the best way to execute the plan. You try advice or even ask old timers to change something obsolete that they used to for decades. They wont budge bcoz of ego. But if you tell a (made up) story about the benefits of new way experienced by others (trying not to sounds like giving advice), some of them would accept. |
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May 12 2020, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:02 PM) we study sejarah in school always paint Birch as the evil englishman. based on stuff i have heard. birch was murdered mainly because he was trying to eliminate slavery in perak. he was a good guy that was murdered by local songlapers and then malaysian history books went on to paint him as an evil man. propagandists memang celaka.reast in peace the hero we need. ![]() Birch was killed on 2 November 1875 by followers of a local Malay chief, Dato Maharajalela, including Sepuntum, who speared him to death while he was in the bath-house of his boat, SS Dragon, moored on the Perak river-bank below the Maharajela's house, in Pasir Salak, near today's Teluk Intan (Teluk Anson).[3] Richard Olaf Winstedt in his "A History of Malaya" on page 226 published in the Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, reprinted in 1986, wrote that a Malay deputation entreated with Governor-General Andrew Clarke in Singapore "to prevent the Resident from interfering with religion and custom, from acting without consulting Sultan and chiefs, and from depriving them of their property, namely fugitive slaves and feudal dues." Clarke had already observed on 25 March 1875 that, "I am very much annoyed with Birch and the heads-over-heels way in which he does things; he and I will come to sorrow yet, if he does not mind." On 21 July 1875 Raja Abdullah, in despair, called a meeting of chiefs where after a talk of poisoning Birch accepted the Maharajalela's offer to stab Birch to death. TL;DR: JWW Birch try to abolish songlaps, orang kite cronyism and slavery but kena bunuh while mandi. ![]() https://www.britannica.com/event/Perak-War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._W._Birch |
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May 12 2020, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ May 12 2020, 12:36 PM) He's the only one got assassinated. Other residents no problem at all. because other resident already killed the malay jaguhs and acted fast ..while some still rely on some stupid shit hikayat ..??The problem is good intention, but bad execution. Just like DAP leaders. It takes a good understanding on social and psychology of targeted community and calculate the best way to execute the plan. You try advice or even ask old timers to change something obsolete that they used to for decades. They wont budge bcoz of ego. But if you tell a (made up) story about the benefits of new way experienced by others (trying not to sounds like giving advice), some of them would accept. |
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May 12 2020, 12:38 PM
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Lol you guys must be dreaming..
An angmo come to asia/malaya to liberate local and give freedoms and develop economy is like USA invade afghan/Iraq to give them freedom.. Ya he so free that he come to do charity in Malaya 🤣 TS xda common sense This post has been edited by akutaksempurna: May 12 2020, 12:39 PM |
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