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 Do you know JWWBirch is actually good guy?, lets remember our nation's hero. 😥

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post May 12 2020, 12:02 PM, updated 6y ago

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we study sejarah in school always paint Birch as the evil englishman.

reast in peace the hero we need.
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Birch was killed on 2 November 1875 by followers of a local Malay chief, Dato Maharajalela, including Sepuntum, who speared him to death while he was in the bath-house of his boat, SS Dragon, moored on the Perak river-bank below the Maharajela's house, in Pasir Salak, near today's Teluk Intan (Teluk Anson).[3]

Richard Olaf Winstedt in his "A History of Malaya" on page 226 published in the Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, reprinted in 1986, wrote that a Malay deputation entreated with Governor-General Andrew Clarke in Singapore "to prevent the Resident from interfering with religion and custom, from acting without consulting Sultan and chiefs, and from depriving them of their property, namely fugitive slaves and feudal dues." Clarke had already observed on 25 March 1875 that, "I am very much annoyed with Birch and the heads-over-heels way in which he does things; he and I will come to sorrow yet, if he does not mind." On 21 July 1875 Raja Abdullah, in despair, called a meeting of chiefs where after a talk of poisoning Birch accepted the Maharajalela's offer to stab Birch to death.



TL;DR: JWW Birch try to abolish songlaps, orang kite cronyism and slavery but kena bunuh while mandi.

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https://www.britannica.com/event/Perak-War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._W._Birch

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bumi ini milik siapa
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ops we wants kronism
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post May 12 2020, 12:05 PM

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He wasn't liked because he wanted to do away with slavery or indentured labour prevalent at the time, maybe he wasn't gentle or polite in his dealing with the local nobility and they killed him for it.
The nobles did like his son, maybe he rubbed them the right way?
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post May 12 2020, 12:06 PM

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yup.....he wanted to "modernise" Perak.....one of the steps taken was to abolish slavery....but this wiill destroy the livelihoods of the orang besar.......You do know, that malays go into the jungle to enslave jakuns and negritos and whatever orang asli you can find inside....

Birch could have done better, be more diplomatic in modernising Perak...but of course, abrasive.

It's inaccurate to portray some anti-british malay figures as heros......because they have got their own agenda to go against the british....also, the british did not attack the Malay states per se, they were invited by the elites themselves to get involved in malay political struggles.

Lu sendiri tak sayang negeri sendiri, cari orang putih kasi campur tangan, maka lu gadai/khianat tanahair sendiri. Mau tuduh, tuduhlah orang sendiri, orang yang gadai negara, bukan british. Very true is today's UMNO vs PPBM VS PAS struggle, anything also can jual, anything also can gadai and compromise for the sake of power. No spine, no values, no virtues.....all orang kecil

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post May 12 2020, 12:07 PM

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.... Helang vs pipit. Even foreigner also pipit
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post May 12 2020, 12:07 PM

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kakwen come give comment to prove you are local.
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post May 12 2020, 12:08 PM

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Yes many ktard already know.Already got thread in k about this a few years back I think..
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post May 12 2020, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 12 2020, 12:05 PM)
He wasn't liked because he wanted to do away with slavery or indentured labour prevalent at the time, maybe he wasn't gentle or polite in his dealing with the local nobility and they killed him for it.
The nobles did like his son, maybe he rubbed them the right way?
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yeah wrong way by trying to remove their songlaps and slavery.
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post May 12 2020, 12:08 PM

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Yet the slave trade.fluorish in the USA.
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Whites? Always do something to their advantage.
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post May 12 2020, 12:09 PM

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Please remember first chapter of history :

1) only accept Malaysia interpretation
2) ang moh version always paint themselves as good guy

Jangan persoal if you want score A

Sincerely,
Aku skor Sejarah spm B3

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Yea, he was a good guy but too bad it was a different time.

Even America also got civil war because of slave ownership.
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:08 PM)
yeah wrong way by trying to remove their songlaps and slavery.
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Nowadays they on sic the macc and polis on you. A but more civilised. Haha
Didnt Perak lose a sultan over this?

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ May 12 2020, 12:09 PM)
Yea, he was a good guy but too bad it was a different time.

Even America also got civil war because of slave ownership.
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he was too good for us. 😭😭😭
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post May 12 2020, 12:11 PM

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You baru learned? Maharajalela and other Malay aristocrats at the time were tax collecters and slave owners. They used their power and influence to solicit money from people and enslaved a majority orang asli population.


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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 12 2020, 12:09 PM)
Nowadays they on sic the macc and polis on you. A but more civilised. Haha
Didnt Perak lose a sultan over this?
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yeap.

Assassination

Birch was killed on 2 November 1875 by followers of a local Malay chief, Dato Maharajalela, including Sepuntum, who speared him to death while he was in the bath-house of his boat, SS Dragon, moored on the Perak river-bank below the Maharajela's house, in Pasir Salak, near today's Teluk Intan (Teluk Anson).[3]

Richard Olaf Winstedt in his "A History of Malaya" on page 226 published in the Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, reprinted in 1986, wrote that a Malay deputation entreated with Governor-General Andrew Clarke in Singapore "to prevent the Resident from interfering with religion and custom, from acting without consulting Sultan and chiefs, and from depriving them of their property, namely fugitive slaves and feudal dues." Clarke had already observed on 25 March 1875 that, "I am very much annoyed with Birch and the heads-over-heels way in which he does things; he and I will come to sorrow yet, if he does not mind." On 21 July 1875 Raja Abdullah, in despair, called a meeting of chiefs where after a talk of poisoning Birch accepted the Maharajalela's offer to stab Birch to death.

Dato' Maharajalela, who was the individual chiefly responsible for Birch's death, is regarded by most Perak Malays as a heroic figure who resisted British imperialism. He and the others involved were hanged by the British.

Sultan Abdullah, who was also believed to have some complicity in the assassination, was deposed and exiled to the Seychelles. His arch-rival Raja Yusuf[4] was installed as Sultan in his place.


In the aftermath of the event, the administration shifted to Taiping. A new Resident, Sir Hugh Low, was appointed and went about his administration of Perak in a more diplomatic way. Whilst still banning outright slavery, he gradually phased out debt-slavery and assuaged the feelings of the ruler and chieftains by allowing for adequate monthly compensation to them.
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QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ May 12 2020, 12:09 PM)
Please remember first chapter of history :

1) only accept Malaysia interpretation
2) ang moh version always paint themselves as good guy

Jangan persoal if you want score A

Sincerely,
Aku skor Sejarah spm B3
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No wonder our education system can not improve
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post May 12 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ May 12 2020, 12:09 PM)
Please remember first chapter of history :

1) only accept Malaysia interpretation
2) ang moh version always paint themselves as good guy

Jangan persoal if you want score A

Sincerely,
Aku skor Sejarah spm B3
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and please hafal nilai nilai murni moral and their definasi word by word.
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:02 PM)
we study sejarah in school always paint Birch as the evil englishman.

reast in peace the hero we need.
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Birch was killed on 2 November 1875 by followers of a local Malay chief, Dato Maharajalela, including Sepuntum, who speared him to death while he was in the bath-house of his boat, SS Dragon, moored on the Perak river-bank below the Maharajela's house, in Pasir Salak, near today's Teluk Intan (Teluk Anson).[3]

Richard Olaf Winstedt in his "A History of Malaya" on page 226 published in the Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, reprinted in 1986, wrote that a Malay deputation entreated with Governor-General Andrew Clarke in Singapore "to prevent the Resident from interfering with religion and custom, from acting without consulting Sultan and chiefs, and from depriving them of their property, namely fugitive slaves and feudal dues." Clarke had already observed on 25 March 1875 that, "I am very much annoyed with Birch and the heads-over-heels way in which he does things; he and I will come to sorrow yet, if he does not mind." On 21 July 1875 Raja Abdullah, in despair, called a meeting of chiefs where after a talk of poisoning Birch accepted the Maharajalela's offer to stab Birch to death.
TL;DR: JWW Birch try to abolish songlaps, orang kite cronyism and slavery but kena bunuh while mandi.

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https://www.britannica.com/event/Perak-War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._W._Birch
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meanwhile, our History textbook hails the plotter/killer as heroes

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