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post May 29 2006, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(cwjmorpheus @ May 29 2006, 11:43 AM)
what r RECON set?? means no good ah? For AP set,the imei number on the phone must also be same as the box 1?
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QUOTE(ruztynail @ May 29 2006, 01:23 PM)
ok i was wrong. the shop company that sold me isnt the same as the one giving the warranty. the warranty is by HSS. the seller is some phone company. and recon means thy take in 2nd hand phones change the housing and pads and all to sell like new.

my IMEI on the phone not the same as the box. so abit sceptical there/ but yea it should be the same.
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for ap set... it is common if the imei on the box is diff from the phone
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post Jun 1 2006, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 30 2006, 11:37 PM)
Sure there are big!! different between AP and RECON, AP is new phone form factory where as RECON is a faulty phone that been fix then renew and sell to customer as a new phone!!! but how to find out AP or RECON that i duno la
I have one question on ori set, if i bought an ori set in malaysia and is the warranty cover in oversea also such as taiwan, china or anywhere?
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not covered oversea, not free of charge as in malaysia.. money does the talk...
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post Jun 11 2006, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(knokie @ Jun 10 2006, 07:04 PM)
I think AP phones are mostly the stolen items from other countries. Like our phones (stolen) or items (stolen) might be AP phone in some other countries.....same thing goes to cars......sad.gif
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hm... yup.. read first post..

QUOTE(ardhawk @ Jun 11 2006, 02:38 AM)
what is refurbished? is it still great like new one?

sorry if repost guys.. smile.gif
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refurbished = reconditioned... phones tat are sold but refunded, second hand, demo unit etc but checked, repaired, reconditioned to work as new..
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post Jun 11 2006, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Axel @ Jun 11 2006, 10:16 PM)
1 question,the people selling brand new AP sets are unlocked phones already la rite?or is there sumthing im not getting here?
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yes.. mostly is unlocked, so tat it can be used in malaysia..
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post Jun 12 2006, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(knokie @ Jun 13 2006, 12:24 AM)
As long as the item is high demanding, anything also can be done la.....stolen goods as AP also possible la.....even stolen luxury cars here also can be found in Indonesia la.......phones? how small izzit......
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yes there is possibility that SOME ap set is stolen set.. but dont simply apply tat all/most ap set is STOLEN set.. why ap set is much cheaper than ori set? u know how cheap is some phone in the market in other country... hence ap company exploit by importing those sets and not to mention import duty is exempted for ap set as well..

high demand, anything can be done, and that is mostly waterset.. stolen phone is more appropriately termed as waterset..

if most ap set is stolen goods, importer, custom, government or watsoever shud knows it better and ap license on phone is then hv to be stopped/suspended long ago.. since selling stolen goods is kinda illegal..

tat is just my point anyway.. i agree maybe 1/2 sets out of dunno how much sets maybe are stolen sets but tat doesnt simply make ap sets are stolen sets..

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post Jun 13 2006, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(etsee @ Jun 13 2006, 10:45 AM)
Thanks Shinigami...

Another question, will it void the warranty from midlands if the original silver casing of K750i is being changed to the black casing (either ori or oem)?

thank you in advance
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if done by technician of se service center.. wont void warranty..
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post Jun 15 2006, 06:09 AM

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QUOTE(Shinigami @ Jun 15 2006, 03:47 AM)
I dont quite remember if there's any sticker sealed on the ori housing...
If there's no sticker then it's okay... sometimes they do have those seal...
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even no sticker they also will know if the set is opened before.. the screw will be hv a bit wear and tear if it is unscrewed and screwed before..
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post Jun 15 2006, 08:39 PM

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i think its midlands
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post Jun 16 2006, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(crazychris @ Jun 16 2006, 12:15 AM)
wan ask...

if buy AP phone means go bac to the shop u bought the hp rite??
if ori means how?? if ori SE means can sen bac to sony wing can??
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ori SE? send to any authorized SE service center.. can be found in pinned thread in phone-specific subforum..
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post Jun 16 2006, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jun 16 2006, 09:41 AM)
Haha... It is MIDland..
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then info on first page have to be corrected!

i dont hv any midland set.. haha!
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post Jun 19 2006, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Jun 19 2006, 02:33 PM)

April Comm. Sdn. Bhd. tried to con me with a RM 980 K750i AP set with 512MB MS memory.
ii) They tried to sell me a unit which the handphone's IMEI does not tally with the box. T
heir comments: "For AP set, the handphone unit comes into the country first, then only the box comes in later. So it is OK!" (NO, it is NOT OK!). Warranty by GBS.

iii) Salesman initially asked "How much is outside selling AP K750I", I told him "RM 880"(Reference from GTORACER1). He said "Wah, below cost la. Cannot do la..OK...how about RM 980, with 512MB Memory".

Well I nearly wanted to close the deal, not until the supervisor (when I came back 2nd round) said "RM 980 is only AP Set with 64MB MS"..I questioned him "Didn't your salesman and you just said RM 980 WITH 512MB MS??" and he said "No la, I said the 'phone can support up to 512MB MS only" (Yeah right, it can support 2GB laa, my friend)
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ii) it is very common for ap set to have diff imei on the box and in the phone.. they get the phone out for display or locked it up... and simply get a k750i box when it is sold.. so dont be surprised if the imei is diff bet. box and phone..

iii) forumer got free listing on this forum... phone shop doesnt get free site to sell the phone.. therefore its quite reasonable for the price to be higher than forumer here.. renting a shop site ain't cheap.. not to mention wages for salesman and electicity/misc fees.. i would believe if he say below cost is quite reasonable for them, considering rent, misc fees, salary, profit etc.. but rm 980 for an ap k750i set is a tad high.. walk more shop lo or just get from forumer in here lo..
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QUOTE(Dan12 @ Jun 28 2006, 01:05 PM)
aiya why so fussy on the warranty? doh.gif
Are you planning to destroy your phone?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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just in case if bad luck land on you.. you get for wat u paid.. so warranty is part of the money u paid..
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QUOTE(yan5619 @ Jun 30 2006, 11:17 PM)
sry...i would like to ask if PDAs(O2 and/or HP ipaq) have these kind of authorised distributors, water set and AP?
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PDA phone like 02 and ipaq sure have their own authorised distributor.. its quite hard to find waterset or it is personal, not widely available and dont think there is ap company carrying those pda phone yet
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post Jul 4 2006, 06:54 PM

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its ap set.. this phone is not distributed officially or as ori by the authorized distributor yet.. can said it is not officially released into the market by the authorized distributor (t-choice, midland, thorus)...

the ap set available in market now is from other country where the phone is widely available.. tat is why ap set reach malaysia market faster than ori set..

malaysia is known to get the newly released phone weeks later compare to other country like hong kong, uk, europe etc etc and there is where the ap set comes from.
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QUOTE(mosc @ Jul 31 2006, 01:03 PM)
What are SE K800, W800, K750's authorized distributor? Midland?
Which AP distributors for these SE model are more reliable? Can anyone recommend some? Most important is the "after purchase" service. Cuz i knew some AP distributor have thier own service center, right?
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original se distributors = midlands, t-choice and thorus

reliable ap set: final choice maybe...


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QUOTE(mingjeff @ Aug 1 2006, 01:52 AM)
For Nokia, between Avaxx, Zitron and i-mobile, which of these normally offers the cheapest price? I'm thinking of getting the new Nokia 6233. When I phoned nokia careline, I was told that the rrp cost only RM1299. But when I visited a hp shop in Jusco, the lady told me the phone cost RM1400 (SAMART, i-mobile). When I told her about that, she said the best price she can give me is RM1330. Is this a good buy from that shop?
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try to walk around more shops.. you might get a better price... if u dont mind the rm30 diff.. u might as well just get it..
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QUOTE(Xerone @ Oct 2 2006, 08:42 PM)
But what if I tell them to use ori parts and I will pay them to use ori parts?
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some of them may get ori/better part for you at ori price..

some may get you low quality/non-ori part for you and charge you at ori price.. you'll never know..
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QUOTE(Acquiesce @ Nov 18 2006, 09:48 PM)
guys..i got a brand new P990i from lucky draw..how do i check whether its Oirginal or AP set? it comes with a warranty card from SB Communications.  icon_question.gif
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look at the sticker affixed to back of the phone or battery.. if the sticker is from midland, thorus, t-choice or grandtech (maybe) is ori set
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post Dec 8 2006, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(siren @ Dec 8 2006, 02:46 AM)


I wonder how he can do business like tat with a price gap of RM110 just next to each other as both fones are ap sets...???
If 1 fone is ap and 1 fone is ori, then understanable la..


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easy... the booth selling for rm110 more guy said the booth next to them sell recon set claimed as ap set... some customer might believe it and purchase the phone for extra rm110...

then the booth selling for rm110 less guy said the phone in our booth also ap set wat? i wondered why guy next booth sell so expensive both also same ap set wat... some customer believe it too and purchase the phone for rm110 lesser...

who is right.. who is wrong.. no one know. only they know themselves.. so it is based on the customer themselves to be smart, judge themselves etc etc.. point is, know how to check, not falling over to wat they said completely and be smart..

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