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akina81
post Mar 6 2004, 02:22 PM


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Original Set
- Nokia authorized distributors are Zitron, Avaxx and i-Mobile.
- Sony Ericsson authorized distributors are T-Choice, Grandtech, Midlands and Thorus.
- First Mobile Group (FMG) is the main distributor of Samsung phones.
- FMG is giving 18 months warranty.
- Motorola authorized distributor are Satellite Technics, Zitron and MDM.
- Siemens authorized distributors are Zitron and FMG.
- Panasonic's authorized distributor is Zitron.
- LG's authorized distributor is Zitron.
- u can service your phone at any service centres (Nokia Professional Centre, Sony Ericsson Certified Service Centres...)
- 1 year warranty for the full set including charger, battery, handsfree.
- genuine parts are used for repairing.



AP Set
- Approval Products
- mainly imported from oversea and sell it to the consumers.
- AP set warranty by companies such as Final Choice, CSL, Nefion, Telstra, GTMax...etc
- 1 year warranty for the phone and 1 month for the accessories like charger, battery, handsfree.
- u must bring your phone back to the place u bought the phone for servicing.

Water Set
- Stolen / Brought in from oversea without paying tax aka SIRIM Sticker. Considered as Illegal. Mostly brought in by student studying oversea.

QUOTE(Shezzar @ Jul 25 2004, 11:11 AM)
If you have an AP set with Vodafone or T-Mobile logo, it means that your phone might be locked. Those Vodafone or T-Mobile are the service operators in the UK and that's where the phones come from. Not all AP sets have the logo. AP sets are Approved Products which means that these products are certified by sirim that your product is safe to use.

In other words, AP product not brought in by the authorised distributor like Midland, T-Choice for SE, Avaxx or Zitron for Nokia, FMG for Samsung and etc. The phones can even come from Singapore and may even have the M1, Singtel or Starhub logo. Remember to check the phone if it is locked especially those from Singapore and Vodafone.


QUOTE(graffika @ Jul 25 2004, 11:02 PM)
AP sets has different level of QC. Big AP companies like Final Choice, GTMAX, Nefion, Telstra, O'Connors have extensive QC checks. Others like MSL, YS, PLANTRONICS or names not mentioned above, are slightly cheaper than the above. Whether they replaced their parts with other stuff, its another question.


QUOTE(ikarishinji @ Jul 26 2004, 07:01 PM)
AP set actually pay government tax but is juz that they are not taxed by the Local Authorised Dealer. AP set is normally distributed by small handphones companies and they might stop business anytime.
Futhermore if there's major damage on your AP set, the AP companies might not have enough equiptment to fix it. At the end, they still have to send it to the authorized dealer (eg. Zitron, Avaxx).

QUOTE(marquis @ Feb 19 2006, 08:03 PM)

Like what everyone else have said, a phone without a sirim sticker is considered as illegal and thus cannot be sold here. But I'm gonna assume that if the phone is not available here, it should be better. And besides, if you bought the phone from overseas and bring it back here to use, don't tell me it would be illegal to use it right?

Speaking of buying a waterset from a shop, they might say that you did not inspect it properly before buying and thus you are at fault. So yeah guys, if you wanna buy a phone, do yourselves a favor and do these few things:

Check for sirim sticker (this is a MUST. Everyone should know this).
Cross check IMEI numbers on the phone and the box
Ask for warranty card.
Ask if the warranty card needs to be sent to wherever necessary.
Check all the features of the phone (iow, play with the phone, make sure everything is working).
Check for dead pixels.
Check the firmware if possible (*#0000# for most nokias). This way, you can check if it's old stock or not.
And of course, make sure you get the propper set. As in nothing missing like the handsfree and stuff.

Sorry, deviated a bit from what is a waterset, but really, people should know these stuff to avoid getting cheated.

Btw, watersets are usually sold without accesories, only phone and charger. So sometimes if you add up buying the accesories elsewhere, it might cost near the same as buying a proper set
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There are recon set might be known as water set, so beware while you buying.
Recon set are second hand handphones from overseas, they juz change the phone cover (might not be original cover) and do some servicing inside and sell it as an AP set with warranty 1 year summore. As I know FMG will not fix phones other than FMG warranty handset (even they are paid they will not fix)


Identify Original and AP Set
- take out the phone case and battery.
- original set comes with authorized company sticker (Zitron, Avaxx, T-Choice, Midland...)
- AP set comes with AP company sticker (Final Choice...)
- press *#06# to check the phone 15 digit serial number (IMEI).
- compare it with the IMEI written on phone sticker (back of phone case) and package box sticker.
- for original set, these serial numbers are the same.

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post Mar 6 2004, 02:36 PM


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I thought Genesis and O'Conor is no more in biz?
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You might want to add one more authorised distributor for Nokia - Multilink. They're only allowed to distribute Communicators though, so Nokia business would be pretty slow for them smile.gif.

Another Nokia distributor that was dropped a few years ago (I think they were dropped at about the same time as O'Connor's) is Sapura.

The last time I was at a Zitron service centre, it seemed that they were also distributing Motorola, Siemens and Alcatel (not too sure about Alcatel though).

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post Mar 21 2004, 02:05 PM


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the only difference between AP and Zitron is the warranty? wat about the product itself, any difference?~ huh.gif
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QUOTE (sexualpower @ Mar 21 2004, 02:05 PM)
the only difference between AP and Zitron is the warranty? wat about the product itself, any difference?~ huh.gif

- AP set including its accessories are same as the original set.
- some sellers might changed the AP set accessories to non-original set in order to gain profit.
- original Nokia phones have Nokia hologram sticker and Zitron / Avaxx sticker on the battery and charger.
- if u buy original Nokia set, u will get Nokia identification card.
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Very good and superb informations.
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Does FMG has its own website?
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QUOTE (kuangmeew @ Mar 24 2004, 03:28 PM)
Does FMG has its own website?
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post Mar 27 2004, 08:25 PM


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how about samsung mobile ??
who is the distributor ??
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samsung authorized = FMG

samsung AP set, I know E-poch is one of them.
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Midland, for se , good or not ??
better than ap ??
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QUOTE(ray99mond @ Mar 28 2004, 01:26 AM)
Midland, for se , good or not ??
better than ap ??

Sony Ericsson authorized distributors are T-Choice and Midland.
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ermm siemens authorized distributors please
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QUOTE (caun @ Mar 29 2004, 12:42 PM)
ermm siemens authorized distributors please

Zitron, FMG
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what is the distributor for GSL Xplore phone?
Multilink?
seems like it is the electronic dictionary company
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post Apr 30 2004, 06:42 AM


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Ever heard V-COM Mobile from Johor? is a AP for Nokia.

Does Nokia sell very light charger??? is ACP-8x a light charger???
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does AP sets has side effect?

why AP sets are far cheaper than zitron?
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