like what viking said, there's no judge here.

in here i'm just like any of you here when i'm posting, of course my main role is to make sure things are carried out in orderly fashion. that's it.

settlement is up to the parties involved to come to an agreeable term.

ok, refund back my money, i cover the cost of courier and forget everything what seller had done..

my apologies for everyone..

What about replacing the casing? Both parties can share the cost of the casing. Wouldn't that be better & easy?

vikingw2k and goldfries are my fren i dont know why people make a big fuss here. just do a win win solution.

1.As seller we try our best to provide all the details as much as posiable and we do not cover damage done within the postal, especially pos laju how we know how they handle it?

2.As buyer should had ask for more info before purchase and if u suspect something amiss then dont close the deals or ask for COD.

3.Goods sold,none refundable even at shops.I personally deals with vikingw2k before he a honest seller so dont add more flame on him.

So solutions are buyer sent back the items to seller and seller see what can do on the item, replace with new case or give discounted price, as i see here are only the exterior problem should be fine if vikingw2k can refund some money to the seller and close the case.

BTW we are not lawyer here, and we dont try behave like one,digging what people write and try to exploits it is bad coz every word means diff to individual.

Sorry if i offend some people here or i seem help the seller, but i just give my 2cent point of view only

i suggest viking should take this in consideration , since he is willing to bare the courier cost?

better u read from the page first, your point of views is only for ur good frens..

all Lowyat member are my fren including u ... now i online with vikingw2k to solve ur problem and please give me some respect TQ

brother... read before hand 1st... ts did ask viking about the scratches before buying....

adrv4,at first you have a point but now you dont.And the point goes back to viking which is the seller.You dont need to post and flame unncessary stuff.What you need to do is to stick back on the problem solving issue

you come here to settle problems so you need to settle it professionally.

viking wont be mad at malaysian,rite?Coz inside here is like a lokap.Guilty until proven innocent.

coz since the beginning i take you as the accuse and adrv4 as the accuser.Until u come out with your facts.

The problem now is You want a refund coz of the scratched. And this WHAT IF issue comes in this problem.

What if it's indeed the courier fault and viking has to clear his name at first place?Of course he need to summon witnesses into here to clear his name.And as a buyer you still need to follow the seller's TOC.

So what you need to do is just wait for seller to decide. What u actually doin right now ,what u replied....u will make urself turn into an accuse.So reply like an adult.At first i really buy your facts.But now i dont.See my point here?





he taikor and not berat sebelah wan lar..He ban me b4 coz of my wrongdoin in lyn.He damn strict wan.If he hover in kopitiam,means someone sure will get ban coz breaking lyn rules.

This post has been edited by Malaysian: Jul 30 2007, 02:27 AM

LOL. eh i no power to ban la.

At least you are much better than those miserable dudes who came in just for the sake of spamming and flaming making themselves look silly and immature.

lets look at the chronology..

1. i ask him about the 5%scratch and buyer said refer to the clear pics..

2. the part that damage cannot be seen in the pictures

3. buyer admit the phone inside a leather pouch for extra protection so its not poslaju faulty

4. He ask the previous owner the condition although buyer should know it better..WHY???

5. YES, previous owner admit the PDA had dropped before

6. buyer got witness before the PDA being post..

7 i got my witnesses when i received and open the box, and YES, the item is what u see in the pictures post by me, (all my 3 frens, all teachers same like me sees it)- no point i want to do something silly..

8. can u guess which part of the story clash now????

like this mah.This is the right way to reply.Tough issue.I leave u and viking to settle it for now. It's not me to judge and reply anymore.

I suggest other dun need to reply also.Coz it's not pancing undi inside here.

agree with ViRaViRa, change casing, if possible, then both sides also senang, no need send back and fourth.

Pic on the left side was on seller's thread. Received/buyer's pic on the right. It shows the damage was exactly the same before and after it was sold but you couldn't actually see the damage from the pics due to distance and camera angle. The damages on the other sides wasn't shown.



This post has been edited by jcheong: Jul 30 2007, 02:50 AM

did the seller ever mentioned of the scratched top? NO.. means a dishonourable act as a seller (somemore a trade enforcer.. whats this title for? enforcing WTS & WTB tag only?)..

TS wants a refund bcos he felt being cheated here.. somemore the pda has been dropped b4 (which hasn't been mentioned in the sales thread) and got bad scratches & cuts, so its not 95% NEW.. not even 90% NEW.. but the seller rated it as 95% NEW (is this really words from a pro??)..

Everybody will get angry when receive a 95% NEW item which actually <90%.. come on seller, ur buyer paid u using his hard-earned money.. u shouldnt just care about making profit.. u have reputation to uphold..

seller's T&C means quite a bad after sales service.. not even personal warranty.. this won't come from a reliable seller..

for the time being, i suggest seller should do a refund.. since buyer received the item which doesnt look like what has been shown in seller's sale thread..

remember, a responsible and reliable seller will quote and show his items problem/defects b4 selling.. making sure his buyer know & understand fully of items condition..

so then are u a responsible/reliable seller?

This post has been edited by wandzul: Jul 30 2007, 02:57 AM

looks like the situation change 360 for now

see this

picture say 1000 words

this is seller pictures


2 replies above is the buyer picture

This post has been edited by Malaysian: Jul 30 2007, 02:57 AM


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360 would mean back to ........... ?

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Added on July 30, 2007, 2:59 amwandzul. do read the rest before concluding. if it was so easily concluded it would've been done so earlier on.

right now both side have their story and really it's not something so clear cut already.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jul 30 2007, 02:59 AM

the bottom part.. no comment.. but the top part? got covered by thumb sumore.. unintentionally will u say?? (even u oredi knew the scratch is there in the first place?)..

This post has been edited by wandzul: Jul 30 2007, 03:07 AM

viking can u explain my picture?

after photoshop enhance the picture of the brightness..indeed there is 2 hole below the pda.

same like the picture of the buyer.