but it's not entirely sure what has gone into mclaren's car, we dont even know whether the contents of pedro's conversation with alonso is from the 780 pages of dossier or from stepney mouth. but it's from ferrari none the less..

cry-baby-ron VS attention-whore-alonso. who's the winner ?

i doubt alonso will be at mclaren next year nor he will win the drivers champ. mclaren sure sabotage his car. equal treatment is out of the window when shit like this happens.

This post has been edited by blah1134: Sep 15 2007, 05:46 PM

for all those who have commented here.. ur missing the main point

its not what's gone to the car..

its the FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO USE FERRARI DATA
(dosent matter in what way, mayb even as toilet paper)
... the rules are, they arent supposed to have it and they got punished..

now.. lets put that behind us.. :peace

heh.. mcrari! :hehe

as every ferrari fan hates alonso, and now, all mclaren fans too, its time to support hamilton!!

This post has been edited by james2306: Sep 15 2007, 05:54 PM

Alonso just turn the table against his own team McLaren, I doubt the team will do something like that, as Alonso will report it to the FIA if McLaren do something like that, and further get them into trouble.

Although it would be better for the team if Lewis win, as they will still keep their number 1 and 2 on their cars next season. If Alonso wins, he takes the number 1 and 2 to which ever team he goes to and mclaren will have number 20 or so.

Me ROFL!
Winner or whiner?

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 15 2007, 06:10 PM

true wat

Friday practice - Driver Quotes

Fernando Alonso, McLaren (1st, 1m 46.654s):
�euro A good start to the weekend, with all our set-up work completed and with some positive results. The car feels good to drive round here, but as always there is still room for improvement. We have a good idea of where we are and where we can improve, so it should be a close fight all weekend.�euro

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren (2nd, +0.111s):
�euro Today we completed all our work without any problems. I love this circuit, so really enjoyed driving round here and just seeing what the MP4-22 could do. The balance of the car on this technical circuit is good, but I struggled to get a clear lap all session until the very end. That being said I could really feel a definite improvement in our overall performance since we tested here back in July.�euro

Felipe Massa, Ferrari (3rd, +0.299s):
�euro Despite losing time this morning, in the end we can call this a good day. We did some useful work on set-up and on the balance of the car and on a comparison of the two types of Bridgestone tyre available to us. From what we could see, we are working in the right direction. Now, we have to analyse the data very carefully to be as well prepared as possible for tomorrow's qualifying and for Sunday's race.�euro

Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (4th, +0.512s):
�euro Satisfied with the way thing went this morning, but a bit less happy about the afternoon would sum up my day. This morning the car balance was very good, while we struggled a bit in the second session to find the right settings. We need to get the package we have to work better.�euro

Jarno Trulli, Toyota (5th, +0.837s):
�euro Today went quite well and I am pretty happy. We basically concentrated on set-up work and tyre performance. I think we are looking quite strong for this weekend, and it was good to set some competitive lap times this afternoon. I love this circuit. It is the best in the world so I am very motivated to get a good result here. It has everything a driver wants from a track, you are challenged everywhere and there is every different type of corner. I am pushing as hard as possible to score some points because we have been close in the last few races but always had problems. I always find myself in a good mood here at Spa so I hope for the rest of the weekend we can continue to do a good job.�euro

Ralf Schumacher, Toyota (6th, +1.292s):
�euro We went through all our planned programme and had no reliability issues, which is a positive thing. We already had a good idea of set-up from our test here earlier this year but of course the conditions were not exactly the same today. We expected to be reasonably strong here after our test earlier in the year and this seems to be the case, judging by today�euro(tm)s lap times. I am relatively happy with the pace we showed. Qualifying has been very close in the last few races with only one or two 10ths making a big difference so we will work hard to optimise our car in time for qualifying. I am optimistic about our chances and hopefully we can fight for a strong result in qualifying and then the race.�euro

Giancarlo Fisichella, Renault (7th, +1.432s):
�euro This was a good day for us. We got a good answer comparing the two types of Bridgestone tyre, and in terms of the car's handling and set-up, our situation is getting better and better. There is still some work to do tonight after we have analysed the data, but I think we can say �euro~so far, so good�euro(tm) at this point.�euro

Mark Webber, Red Bull (8th, +1.617s):
�euro The first session wasn�euro(tm)t easy for us, but in the second we got the balance of the car closer to where it had been at the test, so it was bit better. The car isn�euro(tm)t too bad to drive here, but we need to be faster.�euro

Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber (9th, +1.625s):
�euro The day was okay. We did a lot of running, but unfortunately again the grip level is quite poor. Now we have to analyse why the car feels different today than in the test. The conditions for the test were similar but with some rain, which should have been an advantage today, but it was not the case.�euro

Heikki Kovalainen, Renault (10th, +1.913s):
�euro We got a lot done today, working on the set-up and comparing the two tyres. The timesheets didn't reflect the car's full potential, because I had traffic on my quickest lap at the end of the session, and I think there is more to come from the set-up as well as I work with my engineers this evening. I think we made a good start to our programme, and we can continue in the same way tomorrow.�euro

Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber (11th, +1.952s):
�euro We had no technical problems, but I�euro(tm)m not satisfied with my car�euro(tm)s balance yet, although I think this is also down to the fact I didn�euro(tm)t attend the test here. Friday�euro(tm)s practice times are always difficult to interpret. I feel our team will also be the third strongest here. Spa is a very nice track. However, after the change from the V10 to the V8 engines you can go Eau Rouge and Blanchimont flat out without a problem, so the circuit has lost its ultimate thrill.�euro

Nico Rosberg, Williams (12th, +2.186s):
�euro We had a very difficult test here in July but we have brought some improvements to the car and they seem to be working better. However, it was not the best day for us today as we tried to find some more pace. Unlike the last few races, however, the tyre choice seems to be pretty clear, so we can concentrate on other matters. We definitely have some hard work to do tomorrow morning to try and find a bit more for qualifying.�euro

David Coulthard, Red Bull (13th, +2.229s):
�euro There was a problem with the differential pressure which caused a hydraulic failure in the second session. I lost power steering and the gearbox in Eau Rouge and had to park the car. It�euro(tm)s disappointing, as it�euro(tm)s not the first time we�euro(tm)ve had issues and we need to get laps in to get comfortable with the set up of the car ahead of tomorrow.�euro

Jenson Button, Honda (14th, +2.265s):
�euro I completed the programme but we are not quick enough and it seems the car is not where we need it to be to suit the demands of this circuit. We did expect this to be honest; the test here in July indicated that there was work to be done. We will now have to look at the data and see where we can bring improvements to the car ahead of tomorrow.�euro

Rubens Barrichello, Honda (15th, +2.710s):
�euro I spent both sessions analysing the tyre options, rear wings and running through the usual Friday set-up programme. I got the job done in terms of running through all the items but we are not quick enough and I'm still having problems in some of the corners. We have a lot of work to do before qualifying.�euro

Alexander Wurz, Williams (16th, +2.739s):
�euro It was a pretty tough day today and everything seemed to be difficult with the car and its set-up options. We had a similar set of issues here at the Spa test, so we will have to work hard to change this. That said, the last few things we tried at the end of the day seemed to offer a better direction, so I hope we can undo these knots and make some progress tomorrow.�euro

Sakon Yamamoto, Spyker (17th, +3.043s):
�euro This was my first day driving at Spa and I really enjoyed it. This circuit is quite fast after the hairpin so you shouldn't push in just one corner, instead try to drive very smoothly and get into a rhythm. I think you can really see our improvement here from the last test with the A-spec car, there is a real difference. We still have to discuss our programme tomorrow, but we will try to keep going forward as much as we can.�euro

Sebastian Vettel, Toro Rosso (18th, +3.066s):
�euro I did not test here for BMW in the summer, so this is my first time here in a Formula One car and the circuit seems very different to the way it did when I last raced here in Formula 3 and World Series. This is a bit faster! I like the track: Eau Rouge is very nice but my favourite is the double left, Pouhon at Turns 10 and 11.We did a lot of laps today so I think this was a good day. Unfortunately, Tonio was unable to contribute much data because of the problem on his car. As usual, it is hard to have a clear picture as we don't know what fuel loads the others were running.�euro

Takuma Sato, Super Aguri (19th, +3.514s):
�euro We struggled to find a good balance today. It's so different from our last visit here at the test over a month ago. We didn't maximise or make the most of the tyres for the short or long runs, so I think we need to work quite hard overnight. We collected very valuable data, but we couldn�euro(tm)t do as many laps as we wanted as our running was quite restricted. I hope that we can improve our performance for us to be able to have a better day tomorrow.�euro

Adrian Sutil, Spyker (20th, +3.745s):
�euro It was again a hard day. I found it difficult to get a good balance - the car is quite difficult to set up, with either big oversteer or understeer. When I went off on the entry of Turn Seven I had some oversteer and I just lost it. It was not a big incident but I could not go on in the session.�euro

Anthony Davidson, Super Aguri (21st, +3.888s):
�euro It's been a difficult day. We seem to have two extremes in the car and we can't find the balance at all. It was a very �euro~undriveable�euro(tm) car. It�euro(tm)s a tough situation and it's going to take a lot of work tonight to improve the car for tomorrow. Hopefully in Qualifying set-up the car will be a lot easier to drive, but so far it's been a 'testing' day for everyone.�euro

Vitantonio Liuzzi, Toro Rosso (22nd, +3.865s):
�euro I started the morning with problems with the balance on the car and big understeer in the medium and slow speed corner. We had this situation for my first three runs. Then the session ended when the front locked up in Turn Eight, which put me off the track. At the start of the second session, it felt like I was in a completely different car as it had gone the opposite way to the morning, with the car feeling very light in the rear, but much more driveable. I had a strong first run, but on my out lap for my second run, I had to stop because of a problem with the rear end of the car, which we are investigating.�euro

Looking good for some 1-2 salt on the wound

session over... i love f1-live's live updates

Glad to see Kimi faster than Massa lol

haha yes.
i dont like Alonso but this yr he join McLaren so add some point to him But after last nite..... 1/10 for him.

i think Alonso must be suffering now, nobody in the garage wants to talk 2 him for sure.... wonder wat McLaren will do to him or his car.

yea ... hope kimi wont screw up and let massa win again

Ferrari faster than McLaren
but McLaren driver only need always finish on the podium to be WDC
i dont care if Ferrari get 1-2 finish

I wonder if Mclaren will sabotage Alonso's car or even put white powder in it since they are not competing for WCC anymore. At least they can have their sweet revenge before Alonso leaves for Renault

This post has been edited by karhoe: Sep 15 2007, 07:03 PM

Where the hell is Astro's Formula One Live Telecast for Qual?!?!?! WTF

at least u should b glad astro is not going 2 delay the live race unlike RTM

RTM .... 2am ........ zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
screw it ... sleep better

Q2 times are very competitive. not much to choose between the 2 teams

damn.. RTM dunno da word "Live"

Raikkonen pole

1) Raikonen
2) Massa
3) Alonso
4) Hamilton