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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 12:55 AM)
I know HK follow Chinese script. Well... obviously. Their Cantonese words have direct a counterpart in Mandarin, like 你, is 'ni' in Mandarin and 'nei' in Cantonese. But our Cantonese, we say lei. Why are we so different?

Another example:


Mandarin: De
HK: Dik
Local: Gei


Mandarin: Dui
HK: Deoi
Local: Ngam
UPDATE:

Apparently I am wrong as pointed out by a ktard. These words have a direct counterpart in Mandarin, see answer 5.
的 is Dik
嘅 is Ge (correct)

对Is Duii
啱 is ngam (correct)
/K answers as simplied below:

1. Influenced by other dialects

2. The words we use are slangs, which HK also use. But we don't know the formal words, which HK knows and use

3. These are 'Lazy' pronunciation, as the language evolved.

4. KL more different from Hongkie. But Ipoh/Sabah closer to HK

5. The 'slangs' are actually found in Mandarin words. It is just that they are rarely used in Mandarin but have more meaning in Canto.
Additional info on corrupted Malaysian Cantonese:

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/show...se-is-corrupted]http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/show...se-is-corrupted

https://chineselanguage.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=654
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Our cantonese is 1900s level.

Hong Kong cantonese has diverted and bloosomed from there, they learn cantonese in school, you think their cantonese not progress ?

whereas us, we learn cantonese from our parents, no official education. Those from chinese school use their existing learning to translate and use for local tv programs.

this is the reason why HK cantonese so far ahead of ours.

Also not every chinese here is cantonese, you try to speak to penang/kedah/johor/klang lang in cantonese lah, you think they understand you ?
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ours one is bastardize canton to fit the way we speak locally
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posting in necro tered.

reminds me of a lenglui back then in school, her canto is really hongkie style canto, but it didnt cross my mind then and thought maybe because she watch too much hongkie drama.

last month i happen to bump into her again in some restaurant sitting a table away but didnt go say hi lah, just pandang tepi2 only. no longer as lenglui as back then, body abit more meat, got one kid. but she is speaking in the same distinct hongkie canto with her kid. that intonation, that choice of words that isnt quite malaysian canto slang. gave me the jitters
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QUOTE(Zeliard @ Apr 19 2020, 09:21 PM)
I'm from Ipoh

The only main difference is cent. We use chean. Kl uses kok.

Eg 10c. Yat chean. Yat kok.
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I think ipoh uses

Yat mou

Kl uses

Yat kok

( that’s what I heard 40 years ago, perhaps it’s changed?)..
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Somewhere in the middle the gal pronounces mai lo di wrongly … took me a while 2 guess wat she’s saying… laugh.gif

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Kakwank: this is katchat dialect
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Apr 26 2022, 09:39 AM)
Our cantonese is 1900s level.

Hong Kong cantonese has diverted and bloosomed from there, they learn cantonese in school, you think their cantonese not progress ?

whereas us, we learn cantonese from our parents, no official education. Those from chinese school use their existing learning to translate and use for local tv programs.

this is the reason why HK cantonese so far ahead of ours.

Also not every chinese here is cantonese, you try to speak to penang/kedah/johor/klang lang in cantonese lah, you think they understand you ?
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