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post Feb 16 2021, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(karwaidotnet @ Feb 16 2021, 10:05 PM)
what is sotong?

dun tell me is 'bat chau yue'

that is octopus right?
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Sorry I got it wrong. Yao yu is sotong
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post Feb 16 2021, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Feb 16 2021, 11:25 PM)
Sorry I got it wrong. Yao yu is sotong
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i think the confusion arises from squid, cuttlefish and octopus. from google these are 3 different types fish.

but i think malay & cantonese doesn't differentiate squid and cuttlefish.
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post Feb 16 2021, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Feb 16 2021, 11:25 PM)
Sorry I got it wrong. Yao yu is sotong
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easy la, just think of kena fired, chao yao yu or sotong goreng laugh.gif
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post Feb 16 2021, 11:57 PM

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Ipoh Cantonese is close to hongk
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post Feb 17 2021, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(MdmWSW @ Feb 16 2021, 11:57 PM)
Ipoh Cantonese is close to hongk
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sandakan cantonese too
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post Feb 17 2021, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(hal5586 @ Feb 17 2021, 12:11 AM)
sandakan cantonese too
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sandakan cantonese is the closest cos sandakan cantonese ppl came from HK

whereas other places cantonese ppl came from guangdong and came much earlier than sandakan cantonese ppl
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post Feb 17 2021, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(steady bro @ Feb 17 2021, 12:16 AM)
sandakan cantonese is the closest cos sandakan cantonese ppl came from HK

whereas other places cantonese ppl came from guangdong and came much earlier than sandakan cantonese ppl
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Sandakan was known as Little HK in the old days
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post Feb 17 2021, 01:13 AM

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Eh where can learn some good cantonnese

not the "explicitives ending at every sentence kind"
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post Feb 17 2021, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(ChaosXP @ Feb 17 2021, 01:13 AM)
Eh where can learn some good cantonnese

not the "explicitives ending at every sentence kind"
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HK, shenzhen, guangzhou laugh.gif

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post Feb 17 2021, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Feb 14 2021, 11:02 PM)
even HK and guangdong now using the word da pau.
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yeah , noticed it while watching some TVB drama---strange

QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Feb 16 2021, 10:18 PM)
for train, the foh is longer. foooh cheh
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wei....you are not malay meh?
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Feb 17 2021, 11:04 AM)
wei....you are not malay meh?
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Feb 17 2021, 11:05 AM)
i am laugh.gif
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mix?
how did you pick up kantonis?
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Feb 17 2021, 11:09 AM)
mix?
how did you pick up kantonis?
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my other half pure is pure canto laugh.gif
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Feb 17 2021, 11:13 AM)
my other half pure is pure canto laugh.gif
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waaaa
still an achievement!!!
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:36 AM

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try go to HK, and then go speak mandarin or hokkien instead of cantonese, see whether anyone on the streets would go beat up till vomit blood or not...
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 12:55 AM)
I know HK follow Chinese script. Well... obviously. Their Cantonese words have direct a counterpart in Mandarin, like 你, is 'ni' in Mandarin and 'nei' in Cantonese. But our Cantonese, we say lei. Why are we so different?

Another example:


Mandarin: De
HK: Dik
Local: Gei


Mandarin: Dui
HK: Deoi
Local: Ngam
UPDATE:

Apparently I am wrong as pointed out by a ktard. These words have a direct counterpart in Mandarin, see answer 5.
的 is Dik
嘅 is Ge (correct)

对Is Duii
啱 is ngam (correct)
/K answers as simplied below:

1. Influenced by other dialects

2. The words we use are slangs, which HK also use. But we don't know the formal words, which HK knows and use

3. These are 'Lazy' pronunciation, as the language evolved.

4. KL more different from Hongkie. But Ipoh/Sabah closer to HK

5. The 'slangs' are actually found in Mandarin words. It is just that they are rarely used in Mandarin but have more meaning in Canto.
Additional info on corrupted Malaysian Cantonese:

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/show...se-is-corrupted]http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/show...se-is-corrupted

https://chineselanguage.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=654
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post Feb 20 2021, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(My neighbour @ Feb 16 2021, 09:22 AM)
Malaysian Chinese > other chinese
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post Feb 22 2021, 11:06 PM

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post Mar 1 2021, 07:30 PM

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Is that Hakka or Teochew?





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