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post Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM, updated 6y ago

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Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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what is DD? any link to refers?
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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Just like forex is it? Need to play the game well.
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QUOTE(seiluen @ Mar 21 2020, 10:20 PM)
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 11:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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you mean the stop lost is not function or fake?
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They claim their platform is regulated and some more want to fight with the fake platform. Regulated platform doest not mean zero risks.

Regulated platform = suck your money in legal way
Unregulated platfrom = suck your many in many ways

What kind of century now. still got people to believe in forex trading
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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Hi Cassey Hong Chin Yow,

1st of all, i am amazed with your effort by making this thread/post. I am not sure what's your intention.

When you invest on a high returns portfolio strategy, you should know that the risk is high as well. Apparently you are not a risk taker but greedily want high return portfolio strategy. I did told you before you invest and also encourage to diversify among different portfolio strategies because we offered up to 8 different portfolio strategies.

During March2020 when the entire world markets crashed due to pandemic, the strategy you invested hit badly as well. Low risk? How can be a portfolio strategy return as high as 8-10% monthly recognized as low risk by you? You should not invest with money you cant afford to lose when come to high risk investment. Did you request to stop trading when the drawdown reach 30%? It's your account under your name, you can even inform the broker that you wish to stop trading as well.

Many stock investors, mutual fund investors are losing money as well on March2020 financial crisis. We are grateful that other portfolio strategies are doing well except the high risk strategy that you invested. We have many traders managing different portfolio strategies, different trading methods, different risk.

One trader does not represent VESBOLT, investors have the right to choose any traders. If you cant take risk, choose the low returns strategy and for you Cassey, better dont invest in FX since you are not a risk taker. Risk and reward ratio is always balance. Dont go for high return and cry/complain when something happen. Risk warning is everywhere on our web site including when you select portfolio manager and everyone should know past performance does not indicate the future returns. Make sense?

VESBOLT never cheat and never scam, we offer genuine portfolio investment with RISK! Most importantly, we have many happy investors profiting on our portfolio strategies. We also welcome good traders who has proven track records to join us!

Feel free to PM me if anyone has question.

This post has been edited by Equity: May 25 2024, 04:20 AM
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QUOTE(terrytan @ Sep 28 2020, 04:50 PM)
Hi Cassey Hong Chin Yow,

1st of all, i am amazed with your effort by making this thread/post. I am not sure what's your intention.

When you invest on a high returns portfolio strategy, you should know that the risk is high as well. Apparently you are not a risk taker but greedily want high return portfolio strategy. I did told you before you invest and also encourage to diversify among different portfolio strategies because we offered up to 8 different portfolio strategies.

During March2020 when the entire world markets crashed due to pandemic, the strategy you invested hit badly as well. Low risk? How can be a portfolio strategy return as high as 8-10% monthly recognized as low risk by you? You should not invest with money you cant afford to lose when come to high risk investment. Did you request to stop trading when the drawdown reach 30%? It's your account under your name, you can even inform the broker that you wish to stop trading as well.

Many stock investors, mutual fund investors are losing money as well on March2020 financial crisis. We are grateful that other portfolio strategies are doing well except the high risk strategy that you invested. We have many traders managing different portfolio strategies, different trading methods, different risk.

One portfolio strategy does not represent VESBOLT, investors have the right to choose any traders or portfolio strategies. If you cant take risk, choose the low returns strategy and for you Cassey, better dont invest in FX since you are not a risk taker. Risk and reward ratio is always balance. Dont go for high return and cry/complain when somthing happen. Risk warning is everywhere on our web site including when you select portfolio strategy and everyone should know past performance does not indicate the future returns. Make sense?

VESBOLT never cheat and never scam, we offer genuine portfolio investment with RISK! Most importantly, we have many happy investors profiting on our portfolio strategies. We also welcome good traders who has proven track records to join us!

Feel free to PM me if anyone has question.
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on your 8 different portfolios strategies....
does it indicate the probability of losing X% of money in a year for each of the strategy?
something like this from stashaway...Risk index level selection.

an example:
a StashAway portfolio with $100,000 and a StashAway Risk Index of 10% has a 99% probability of not losing more than 10%, or $10,000 in a year.
In other words, there is 99% probability that your portfolio’s value won’t decrease below $90,000 if you select a 10% StashAway Risk Index.
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/introducing-high...5%20and%2036%25.

This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 28 2020, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:02 PM)
on your 8 different portfolios strategies....
does it indicate the probability of losing X% of money in a year?
something like this from stashaway...Risk index level selection.

an example:
a StashAway portfolio with $100,000 and a StashAway Risk Index of 10% has a 99% probability of not losing more than 10%, or $10,000 in a year.
In other words, there is 99% probability that your portfolio’s value won’t decrease below $90,000 if you select a 10% StashAway Risk Index.
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/introducing-high...5%20and%2036%25.
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In investment, nothing is guaranteed. Not even the risk. We stated the past performance with historic highest drawdown.

If investors wish to have limited loss on certain %, they can choose our preferred broker ATCBROKERS which we offered preset maximum drawdown via the PAMM plus platform. The maximum risk % will be the investor choice.

I am not sure about StashAway and not sure it is regulated platform. Anything can be publish on web site but the fact is no GUARANTEED.
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QUOTE(terrytan @ Sep 28 2020, 05:08 PM)
In investment, nothing is guaranteed. Not even the risk. We stated the past performance with historic highest drawdown.

If investors wish to have limited loss on certain %, they can choose our preferred broker ATCBROKERS which we offered preset maximum drawdown via the PAMM plus platform. The maximum risk % will be the investor choice.

I am not sure about StashAway and not sure it is regulated platform. Anything can be publish on web site but the fact is no GUARANTEED.
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thks for the info about ATCbrokers

it does not need to be guaranteed but they have a number from calculation of Value-at-Risk (VaR) to show about the expectations of how much risk to which you’ll be exposed for each of the risk index selected which also indicates the potential loss of the given portfolio

btw, that earlier link was from Stashaway Singapore, and it is regulated in Singapore as per
https://www.stashaway.sg/security

malaysia version
https://www.stashaway.my/security

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:16 PM)
thks for the info about ATCbrokers

it does not need to be guaranteed but they have an number from calculation of Value-at-Risk (VaR) to show about expectations of how much risk to which you’ll be exposed  for each of the risk level selected

btw, that earlier link was from Stashaway Singapore, and it is regulated in Singapore as per
https://www.stashaway.sg/security

malaysia version
https://www.stashaway.my/security
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Generally both are different products. Stashaway risk and returns could be lower and generally focus on bonds. The returns could be 10-20% a year and lower?

For VESBOLT, we are focus much on FX and commodities. For returns wise, we aim to achieve 20% and above annually. Thus the risk is higher as well.

This post has been edited by terrytan: Sep 28 2020, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(terrytan @ Sep 28 2020, 05:29 PM)
Generally both are different products. Stashaway risk and returns could be lower and generally focus on bonds. The returns could be 10-20% a year and lower?

For VESBOLT, we are focus much on FX and commodities. For returns wise, we aim to achieve 20% and above annually. Thus the risk is higher as well.
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thumbup.gif notworthy.gif yes different products...

since this is a Vesbolt thread...i will leave the stashaway thing off this thread....
not before sharing this article i got from there too....which i think can be applied to the general population...

Debunking "High Risk, High Return"
Is 6% annual returns high or low? It depends!

How much risk was taken to deliver that 6% in returns?
If you’re comparing returns of different investment products, you should be looking at how much risk it took to achieve those returns.
We all know the saying, “High Risk, High Returns”, but how true is it?

The short answer is: in the long-term, on average, riskier investments will probably give higher returns.
The key words in that sentence are “long-term” and “average”.
In the short term, riskier investments are more likely to give lower returns and experience more losses.

Here, I’m going to focus on how to understand risk and holistically interpret returns.

more
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/debunking-high-risk-high-return

In short, don’t take unnecessary risk
In investing, you cannot talk about returns without talking about risk, and you should never invest in a product based on its historical and projected returns, without having first learnt about its volatility and overall risk.
Make sure you do your homework before deciding on an investment product.

This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 28 2020, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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QUOTE(terrytan @ Sep 28 2020, 04:50 PM)
Hi Cassey Hong Chin Yow,

1st of all, i am amazed with your effort by making this thread/post. I am not sure what's your intention.

When you invest on a high returns portfolio strategy, you should know that the risk is high as well. Apparently you are not a risk taker but greedily want high return portfolio strategy. I did told you before you invest and also encourage to diversify among different portfolio strategies because we offered up to 8 different portfolio strategies.

During March2020 when the entire world markets crashed due to pandemic, the strategy you invested hit badly as well. Low risk? How can be a portfolio strategy return as high as 8-10% monthly recognized as low risk by you? You should not invest with money you cant afford to lose when come to high risk investment. Did you request to stop trading when the drawdown reach 30%? It's your account under your name, you can even inform the broker that you wish to stop trading as well.

Many stock investors, mutual fund investors are losing money as well on March2020 financial crisis. We are grateful that other portfolio strategies are doing well except the high risk strategy that you invested. We have many traders managing different portfolio strategies, different trading methods, different risk.

One portfolio strategy does not represent VESBOLT, investors have the right to choose any traders or portfolio strategies. If you cant take risk, choose the low returns strategy and for you Cassey, better dont invest in FX since you are not a risk taker. Risk and reward ratio is always balance. Dont go for high return and cry/complain when somthing happen. Risk warning is everywhere on our web site including when you select portfolio strategy and everyone should know past performance does not indicate the future returns. Make sense?

VESBOLT never cheat and never scam, we offer genuine portfolio investment with RISK! Most importantly, we have many happy investors profiting on our portfolio strategies. We also welcome good traders who has proven track records to join us!

Feel free to PM me if anyone has question.
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Make police report and ask Bank Negara, Securities Commission and police to investigate. If it is a scam, then perhaps this can prevent others from getting scammed

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:35 PM)
thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif yes different products...

since this is a Vesbolt thread...i will leave the stashaway thing off this thread....
not before sharing this article i got from there too....which i think can be applied to the general population...

Debunking "High Risk, High Return"
Is 6% annual returns high or low? It depends!

How much risk was taken to deliver that 6% in returns?
If you’re comparing returns of different investment products, you should be looking at how much risk it took to achieve those returns.
We all know the saying, “High Risk, High Returns”, but how true is it?

The short answer is: in the long-term, on average, riskier investments will probably give higher returns.
The key words in that sentence are “long-term” and “average”.
In the short term, riskier investments are more likely to give lower returns and experience more losses.

Here, I’m going to focus on how to understand risk and holistically interpret returns.

more
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/debunking-high-risk-high-return

In short, don’t take unnecessary risk
In investing, you cannot talk about returns without talking about risk, and you should never invest in a product based on its historical and projected returns, without having first learnt about its volatility and overall risk.
Make sure you do your homework before deciding on an investment product.
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6% annual return investment is acceptable for Singaporean, but not Malaysian. In Singapore, your FD is closed to 0%. In Malaysia, our FD returns are slightly better.

Anyway, this is not VESBOLT thread. I will end here. Thank you.
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Will changing the returns from 6% to 8% (or 10-12%) of caption of that article changes the info the article wanted to convey?
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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WOW didnt realize got such post, luckily i did deep search on it and found this thread. Hey do u know u can report them to the SC ?

Dont let them earn easy money and walk away freely, somemore can call your name in open forum, good for them blardy rude management team. Just report them they will close shop
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:35 PM)
thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif yes different products...

since this is a Vesbolt thread...i will leave the stashaway thing off this thread....
not before sharing this article i got from there too....which i think can be applied to the general population...

Debunking "High Risk, High Return"
Is 6% annual returns high or low? It depends!

How much risk was taken to deliver that 6% in returns?
If you’re comparing returns of different investment products, you should be looking at how much risk it took to achieve those returns.
We all know the saying, “High Risk, High Returns”, but how true is it?

The short answer is: in the long-term, on average, riskier investments will probably give higher returns.
The key words in that sentence are “long-term” and “average”.
In the short term, riskier investments are more likely to give lower returns and experience more losses.

Here, I’m going to focus on how to understand risk and holistically interpret returns.

more
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/debunking-high-risk-high-return

In short, don’t take unnecessary risk
In investing, you cannot talk about returns without talking about risk, and you should never invest in a product based on its historical and projected returns, without having first learnt about its volatility and overall risk.
Make sure you do your homework before deciding on an investment product.
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Stashaway is a regulated company doing legit business dont compare to the low class company vesbolt which run thier business illegally in malaysia and act like they are the best.
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QUOTE(e-lite @ Sep 28 2020, 06:24 PM)
Make police report and ask Bank Negara, Securities Commission and police to investigate. If it is a scam, then perhaps this can prevent others from getting scammed
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this i likey !!! just report to SC saja easy lai sama sama kasi report 9 ee.

regulated in BVI act like its regulated in malaysia kasi report it and see how it goes, lets see if they are legit LOL LOL
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QUOTE(natman @ May 17 2021, 08:56 AM)
Stashaway is a regulated company doing legit business dont compare to the low class company vesbolt which run thier business illegally in malaysia and act like they are the best.
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QUOTE(terrytan @ Sep 28 2020, 04:50 PM)
Hi Cassey Hong Chin Yow,

1st of all, i am amazed with your effort by making this thread/post. I am not sure what's your intention.

When you invest on a high returns portfolio strategy, you should know that the risk is high as well. Apparently you are not a risk taker but greedily want high return portfolio strategy. I did told you before you invest and also encourage to diversify among different portfolio strategies because we offered up to 8 different portfolio strategies.

During March2020 when the entire world markets crashed due to pandemic, the strategy you invested hit badly as well. Low risk? How can be a portfolio strategy return as high as 8-10% monthly recognized as low risk by you? You should not invest with money you cant afford to lose when come to high risk investment. Did you request to stop trading when the drawdown reach 30%? It's your account under your name, you can even inform the broker that you wish to stop trading as well.

Many stock investors, mutual fund investors are losing money as well on March2020 financial crisis. We are grateful that other portfolio strategies are doing well except the high risk strategy that you invested. We have many traders managing different portfolio strategies, different trading methods, different risk.

One portfolio strategy does not represent VESBOLT, investors have the right to choose any traders or portfolio strategies. If you cant take risk, choose the low returns strategy and for you Cassey, better dont invest in FX since you are not a risk taker. Risk and reward ratio is always balance. Dont go for high return and cry/complain when somthing happen. Risk warning is everywhere on our web site including when you select portfolio strategy and everyone should know past performance does not indicate the future returns. Make sense?

VESBOLT never cheat and never scam, we offer genuine portfolio investment with RISK! Most importantly, we have many happy investors profiting on our portfolio strategies. We also welcome good traders who has proven track records to join us!

Feel free to PM me if anyone has question.
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WOW u are giving investment advice openly ? can please show us a proof what makes u qualify to give advice and is vesbolt regulated in malaysia ? Hey now this is a real human case 100% drawdown wooooo con job man . u guys only provide robot to trade and not look after the whole market when it meltdown and close all open trades ? as i know max i know is 60% DD and all trade is close, how isit possible 100 % ? makan commission buta ka ? or is a scam ???



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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:00 AM)
Different food for different kind of people.
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Yes but we are talkign about if the company is regulated and legally or to operate in malaysia, what is the broker close shop who to complaint ? SC ? vesbolt will fully fund back ? , food or not lunch time talk
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Yes but we are talkign about if the company is regulated and legally or to operate in malaysia, what is the broker close shop who to complaint ? SC ? vesbolt will fully fund back ? , food or not lunch time talk
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When it comes to choices, like food,.. Same as investment... If wanting to talk abt regulated in malaysia.... And abt how to complaint abt getting money back... Then forex trading platform other than those in bnm lists will never flourishes in malaysia liao...

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:09 AM)
When it comes to choices,  like food,.. Same as investment... If wanting to talk abt regulated in malaysia.... And abt how to complaint abt getting money back... Then forex trading platform other than those in bnm lists will never flourishes in malaysia liao...
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yes i understand but when i ask in the forex thread i being accuse of everything scam la support scam la . but hey this vesbolt is doing illegal business here in malaysia and now people having 100% drawdown !!!! this is unacceptable i join a MAM before max 30 % and all trade will be close automaticaally regardless.

As a malaysian we should not let these people continue to con people to subscribe to them. Just curious if they are so good why do they need to run a illegal busienss in malaysia ? anytime they can tapau and go back to BVI

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QUOTE(natman @ May 17 2021, 09:18 AM)
yes i understand but when i ask in the forex thread i being accuse of everything scam la support scam la . but hey this vesbolt is doing illegal business here in malaysia and now people having 100% drawdown !!!! this is unacceptable i join a MAM before max 30 % and all trade will be close automaticaally regardless.

As a malaysian we should not let these people continue to con people to subscribe to them. Just curious if they are so good why do they need to run a illegal busienss in malaysia ? anytime they can tapau and go back to BVI
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Oooh,. That is bad....
As for why illigal business set up in malaysia... My guess is probably less of enforcement or will to enforce it... Just like ah long business
Since this is vesbolt thread.... I guess it is okay to post things abt vesbolt be it good or bad...
But if can show proof in pictures n data then would definitely be able to get more mileage in the direction of the debate
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:28 AM)
Oooh,. That is bad....
As for why illigal business set up in malaysia... My guess is probably less of enforcement or will to enforce it... Just like ah long business
Since this is vesbolt thread.... I guess it is okay to post things abt vesbolt be it good or bad...
But if can show proof in pictures n data then would definitely be able to get more mileage in the direction of the debate
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enforcement they dont know anything till people send them info lol lets wait and see when they close shop see they still can LCLY or not

BTW u from stasaway ? i see some good result from friends thinking to dump my asnb sara 1 and park it somewhere else damn freaking low return damnit kena con 1+ year and i get peanut
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QUOTE(natman @ May 17 2021, 09:34 AM)
enforcement they dont know anything till people send them info lol lets wait and see when they close shop see they still can LCLY or not

BTW u from stasaway ? i see some good result from friends thinking to dump my asnb sara 1 and park it somewhere else damn freaking low return damnit kena con 1+ year and i get peanut
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I just opened stashaway in March this year...
Just a note though...
For some people, Freaking low returns, Is better than seeing losses in SA....
Had read complaints for the past months,... Even those of lowest risk rating encountered losses....

I think Timing of entry does play apart, so are the duration of investment

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:43 AM)
I just opened stashaway in March this year...
Just a note though...
For some people, Freaking low returns, Is better than seeing losses in SA....
Had read complaints for the past months,... Even those of lowest risk rating encountered losses....

I think Timing of entry does play apart, so are the duration of investment
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Thanks for the info i think its because of the stock market dont do well lately. put some in unit trust also a loss now
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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1 day let me go investigate see see if its really close , they are the real scammers but accusing everyone as scammers.
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no need to worry if they are legit, because Dr FX said so as they have done due deligent on them they are regulated in what what pulau pangkor or pulau tioman or what BV island or phi phi island. tapi this is malaysia disini tumpahnya darah ku. if cannot comply to local law goback to your island be your own king there

Unfortunately drfx does not reveal that they are running a illegal business according to malaysia law. this is a lawless company beware, as Dr FX advice If you loss your money who can u complaint ? SC ? already a victim and the co founder still call the victim name out in open forum which i think is blardy damn rude in my opinion.

Hey do they bother ? they are lawless sakai and will u take thier advice and invest in them ? some forumers already advice learn trade yourself no ea work forever.

Go and read Dr Fx thread from beginning till end he will accuse everyone and anyone but DRfx has never doubt about vesbolt and even gave his support to this company.
Maybe im living in a fantasy world , suspect they both is from same team , who ever goes in all is scammers only they both is the real one

I hope they will close for real or next thier company name appear in the paper ? lets wait for that day to come.

Kick the illegal scammer out from the country they are sucking malaysian money

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Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.


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no need to worry if they are legit,  because Dr FX said so as they have done due deligent on them they are regulated in what what pulau pangkor or pulau tioman or what BV island or phi phi island. tapi this is malaysia disini tumpahnya darah ku. if cannot comply to local law goback to your island be your own king there

Unfortunately drfx does not reveal that they are running a illegal business according to malaysia law. this is a lawless company beware, as Dr FX advice If you loss your money who can u complaint ? SC ? already a victim and the co founder still call the victim name out in open forum which i think is blardy damn rude in my opinion.

Hey do they bother ? they are lawless sakai and will u take thier advice and invest in them ? some forumers already advice learn trade yourself no ea work forever.

Go and read Dr Fx thread from beginning till end he will accuse everyone and anyone but DRfx has never doubt about vesbolt and even gave his support to this company.
Maybe im living in  a fantasy world , suspect they both is from same team , who ever goes in all is scammers only they both is the real one

I hope they will close for real or next thier company name appear in the paper ? lets wait for that day to come.

Kick the illegal scammer out from the country they are sucking malaysian money
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If you think we are same team with vesbolt or terry, we have many others elite member on this forum https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 are also same team with us. We committed to fight FX SCAM.
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If you think we are same team with vesbolt or terry, we have many others elite member on this forum https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 are also same team with us. We committed to fight FX SCAM.
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yes continue fight scam good job !! support u 10000 %
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Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.
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IC thanks for your advice on samtrade i will retrieve my money accordingly.

May i ask is vesbolt regulated in malaysia, cmply with malaysia financial law and is legal they operate in malaysia ?

Kindly advice and share your experience thanks

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If you think we are same team with vesbolt or terry, we have many others elite member on this forum https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 are also same team with us. We committed to fight FX SCAM.
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i dont know if u are a team and i have no interest in your sir, but your keep pming me explaining to me etc etc
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Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.
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BTW sorry did i miss out something ? u did not explain how samtrade scam no proof when i asked but what i get is u accusing me as a agent, im here to scam people , i support scammers. and u called me kid stupid etc etc ? are u too old to recall ? kindly go back to your page and have a look thanks doc

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Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.
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BTW accusing people and using bad words is your style i read from page one of your post , everyone also u hentam only terry u did not lol anyway im notinterested with your relationship i just told u i just did what a malaysian should do , is to prevent something bad happen or others being scam .

U can continue do your policing in brokers and i do ground work, keep it up, lets go!
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IC thanks for your advice on samtrade i will retrieve my money accordingly.

May i ask is vesbolt regulated in malaysia, cmply with malaysia financial law and is legal they operate in malaysia ?

Kindly advice and share your experience thanks
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As mentioned to you on the other thread and private message, any foreign investments doesn't need to comply to Malaysia law and Malaysian has the right to invest oversea with their own risk to take. We are talking about FX SCAM, not about Malaysia law. FX industry is base on international law, Malaysia has no FX law, except Labuan.

Obviously vesbolt is not a local firm and they are regulated in BVI FSC, as for investors deposit are with their selected brokers either UK, Australia or Switzerland based on what we see from the brokers that they are using. Non are trading in Malaysia. If you think vesbolt is illegal, then every traders and brokers in the world are illegal in Malaysia too, that's including Gain Capital, IG, Oanda, Pepperstone, IC Markets, Axi, Dukascopy, Swissquote etc. Non of them registered or licensed in Malaysia.


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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:16 PM)
As mentioned to you on the other thread and private message, any foreign investments doesn't need to comply to Malaysia law and Malaysian has the right to invest oversea with their own risk to take. We are talking about FX SCAM, not about Malaysia law. FX industry is base on international law, Malaysia has no FX law, except Labuan.

Obviously vesbolt is not a local firm and they are regulated in BVI FSC, as for investors deposit are with their selected brokers either UK, Australia or Switzerland based on what we see from the brokers that they are using. Non are trading in Malaysia. If you think vesbolt is illegal, then every traders and brokers in the world are illegal in Malaysia too, that's including Gain Capital, IG, Oanda, Pepperstone, IC Markets, Axi, Dukascopy, Swissquote etc. Non of them registered or licensed in Malaysia.
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Oh i see thanks for your valuable information, others im not so interested to know or i dont see them promoting thier service in malaysia ? did u see any of them ? let me know ill do my best to prevent them to grow bigger thanks doc
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:16 PM)
As mentioned to you on the other thread and private message, any foreign investments doesn't need to comply to Malaysia law and Malaysian has the right to invest oversea with their own risk to take. We are talking about FX SCAM, not about Malaysia law. FX industry is base on international law, Malaysia has no FX law, except Labuan.

Obviously vesbolt is not a local firm and they are regulated in BVI FSC, as for investors deposit are with their selected brokers either UK, Australia or Switzerland based on what we see from the brokers that they are using. Non are trading in Malaysia. If you think vesbolt is illegal, then every traders and brokers in the world are illegal in Malaysia too, that's including Gain Capital, IG, Oanda, Pepperstone, IC Markets, Axi, Dukascopy, Swissquote etc. Non of them registered or licensed in Malaysia.
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Doc u are replying in a victim thread lah u dont see it or u still hiding in the cave thinking u own everything ? the victim account go burst 100% drawdown. EA usually have a percentage DD than automatic close all trades how isit possible to have 100% can please share ? vesbolt is a professional how can it possible cant see whats coming ? pity this lady owner kena scam
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:16 PM)
As mentioned to you on the other thread and private message, any foreign investments doesn't need to comply to Malaysia law and Malaysian has the right to invest oversea with their own risk to take. We are talking about FX SCAM, not about Malaysia law. FX industry is base on international law, Malaysia has no FX law, except Labuan.

Obviously vesbolt is not a local firm and they are regulated in BVI FSC, as for investors deposit are with their selected brokers either UK, Australia or Switzerland based on what we see from the brokers that they are using. Non are trading in Malaysia. If you think vesbolt is illegal, then every traders and brokers in the world are illegal in Malaysia too, that's including Gain Capital, IG, Oanda, Pepperstone, IC Markets, Axi, Dukascopy, Swissquote etc. Non of them registered or licensed in Malaysia.
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A company do not comply with malaysia financing rules means they are criminals , agree ? so what should a malaysian do ? they are like stray animals in malaysia nothing more. these kutu we must remove them totally dont give them chance to live longer it will only make them rich but investor poorer. come on Doc lets do it kill these fleas before they spread, who know maybe other scammers will come in to malaysia when they see this insect vesbolt is doing well many mor ewill slowly infested our country.

kill them before they kill us all
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Doc u are replying in a victim thread lah u dont see it or u still hiding in the cave thinking u own everything ? the victim account go burst 100% drawdown. EA usually have a percentage DD than automatic close all trades how isit possible to have 100% can please share  ? vesbolt is a professional how can it possible cant see whats coming ? pity this lady owner kena scam
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Hi natman,

There is no guaranteed on any trading including FX Trading, commodities trading or stocks trading. When someone decided to let a trader handle the account, he/she should know the risk involved in capital market trading. FX is a high risk investment, everyone involved should know.

Losing in genuine fx markets is not SCAM, SCAM is cheating with fake trades or ponzi scheme. We can see that vesbolt is offering many strategies and different traders, it's depend on how investor choose their trader too. If someone cant take risk, either avoid invest on FX, else find traders with lower and consistent returns. Best is trade yourself if you know how to make money from Forex markets, if you dont know, and wish to gain some profits, then go for managed account.


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A company do not comply with malaysia financing rules means they are criminals , agree ? so what should a malaysian do ? they are like stray animals in malaysia nothing more. these kutu  we must remove them totally dont give them chance to live longer it will only make them rich but investor poorer. come on Doc lets do it kill these fleas before they spread, who know maybe other scammers will come in to malaysia when they see this insect vesbolt is doing well many mor ewill slowly infested our country.

kill them before they kill us all
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You can say fake FX like TriumphFX, SamTradeFX, Midasama, MIA, etc are criminals of FX SCAM. We dont see vesbolt as a FX SCAM, we know well about the FX industry, this is why we created https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 this thread to help innocent investors to fight FX SCAMs.

The misunderstanding started with us that we thought you are the FX scammer from SamTradeFX. It's a complete misunderstanding. terry defending us because of your aggressiveness. We hope everyone find peace here.
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A company do not comply with malaysia financing rules means they are criminals , agree ? so what should a malaysian do ? they are like stray animals in malaysia nothing more. these kutu  we must remove them totally dont give them chance to live longer it will only make them rich but investor poorer. come on Doc lets do it kill these fleas before they spread, who know maybe other scammers will come in to malaysia when they see this insect vesbolt is doing well many mor ewill slowly infested our country.

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hey natman,

Just read your posts. I can see how mad you are with my post defending DrFX when you defending SamTradeFX. I offer my apologised to you concerning your parents and FX SCAM. DrFX told me you are not part of SamTradeFX, sorry for any misunderstanding. We all do our part in fighting FX SCAM.

If you have any question about vesbolt, feel free to PM me. We are not operating in Malaysia and all the brokers we work with are world famous big brokers. All brokers top regulated in UK, Swiss and Australia, our traders are trading from foreign countries like Singapore, UK, US, Swiss, Australia, Middle East and Europe. We offer many traders for investors to choose if they dont want to trade themselves. If you know how to trade, it is better to trade yourself, if you want a better broker with institutional spreads and offer, i can personally consult you on this FOC.

Trading FX with oversea regulated platform is not illegal, it's like buying Tesla or Microsoft shares in US, it's not illegal as well. Everyone take responsible for their own foreign investment.

Against my deepest condolences to you and your family.

Peace.

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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 10:34 PM)
You can say fake FX like TriumphFX, SamTradeFX, Midasama, MIA, etc are criminals of FX SCAM. We dont see vesbolt as a FX SCAM, we know well about the FX industry, this is why we created https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 this thread to help innocent investors to fight FX SCAMs.

The misunderstanding started with us that we thought you are the FX scammer from SamTradeFX. It's a complete misunderstanding. terry defending us because of your aggressiveness. We hope everyone find peace here.
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Dr i dont want to be rude but u are saying i am agressive ? i dont like to repeat , im not going to post anything in your thread and like i said if they are legit no need to worry too much let the authority handle it ok ? vesbolt should proof to all that they are in business legally and got nothing to hide.

Scammers or not is not an issue i am just a normal malaysian trying to kill all these flies and insect that only do harm to the community. enough said ?

I dont understand what is the problem with you sir ? f u have a problem with me kindly report me that im rude or im agressive to you remove me and ban me totally.

Im a agressive stupid kid trying to scam people in forum and promoting samtrade to scam people.
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hey natman,

Just read your posts. I can see how mad you are with my post defending DrFX when you defending SamTradeFX. I offer my apologised to you concerning your parents and FX SCAM. DrFX told me you are not part of SamTradeFX, sorry for any misunderstanding. We all do our part in fighting FX SCAM.

If you have any question about vesbolt, feel free to PM me. We are not operating in Malaysia and all the brokers we work with are world famous big brokers. All brokers top regulated in UK, Swiss and Australia, our traders are trading from foreign countries like Singapore, UK, US, Swiss, Australia, Middle East and Europe. We offer many traders for investors to choose if they dont want to trade themselves. If you know how to trade, it is better to trade yourself, if you want a better broker with institutional spreads and offer, i can personally consult you on this FOC.

Trading FX with oversea regulated platform is not illegal, it's like buying Tesla or Microsoft shares in US, it's not illegal as well. Everyone take responsible for their own foreign investment.

Against my deepest condolences to you and your family.

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Hello sir,

May i ask is vesbolt doing a legal business in malaysia ? do u comply to all financial rules in malaysia ? can pelase show some certificate to proof your are all legal ?

if u are not kindly please get all legalize before u get penalize.

BTW i am not interested in vesbolt as im a scammer and n here to scam people. so many country u can operate legally why do u come to malaysia and do it illegally ?



thats all i can say

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hey natman,

Just read your posts. I can see how mad you are with my post defending DrFX when you defending SamTradeFX. I offer my apologised to you concerning your parents and FX SCAM. DrFX told me you are not part of SamTradeFX, sorry for any misunderstanding. We all do our part in fighting FX SCAM.

If you have any question about vesbolt, feel free to PM me. We are not operating in Malaysia and all the brokers we work with are world famous big brokers. All brokers top regulated in UK, Swiss and Australia, our traders are trading from foreign countries like Singapore, UK, US, Swiss, Australia, Middle East and Europe. We offer many traders for investors to choose if they dont want to trade themselves. If you know how to trade, it is better to trade yourself, if you want a better broker with institutional spreads and offer, i can personally consult you on this FOC.

Trading FX with oversea regulated platform is not illegal, it's like buying Tesla or Microsoft shares in US, it's not illegal as well. Everyone take responsible for their own foreign investment.

Against my deepest condolences to you and your family.

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Oh sorry miss out this one, im defending samtrade ? wow a nice one sir u must be joking but its fine

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hey natman,

Just read your posts. I can see how mad you are with my post defending DrFX when you defending SamTradeFX. I offer my apologised to you concerning your parents and FX SCAM. DrFX told me you are not part of SamTradeFX, sorry for any misunderstanding. We all do our part in fighting FX SCAM.

If you have any question about vesbolt, feel free to PM me. We are not operating in Malaysia and all the brokers we work with are world famous big brokers. All brokers top regulated in UK, Swiss and Australia, our traders are trading from foreign countries like Singapore, UK, US, Swiss, Australia, Middle East and Europe. We offer many traders for investors to choose if they dont want to trade themselves. If you know how to trade, it is better to trade yourself, if you want a better broker with institutional spreads and offer, i can personally consult you on this FOC.

Trading FX with oversea regulated platform is not illegal, it's like buying Tesla or Microsoft shares in US, it's not illegal as well. Everyone take responsible for their own foreign investment.

Against my deepest condolences to you and your family.

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alamak sorry did not read this u offer a free consultation ? i scare consult go holan 1 way ticket. anyway thanks and no thanks ya.

I simply go other thread ask people happily reply me and im very very grateful to them.

Maybe u still dont understand malaysia financial law, go study big boss u should know before you operate. Still ok just close it, all is good. im watching u guys and others if there is any suddenly pop up. U know la monkey see monkey do when people see got money they will follow. u not scam but maybe other scammers will come into market who knows right. Malaysia have strict rules to follow we are not lawless country, scammers thought malaysia no law easy come in cari makan.

We have SC, SPRM, PDRM, BNM, LHDN , damansara is under DBKL and maybe some NON profit Org which like to go people office raise flags bantah bantah right.

Hope scammers will see this post dont ever play play come into malaysia try to scam our malaysian I will report 9 you

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aiya...doctor or not doctor, it is obvious that both of them are here to make money from gullible rakyat by posing as investment specialist providing "investment" services

dont know why the forum still allows the fx thread to prosper for so long, its obvious the ones running the thread have vested interests

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hey natman,

Just read your posts. I can see how mad you are with my post defending DrFX when you defending SamTradeFX. I offer my apologised to you concerning your parents and FX SCAM. DrFX told me you are not part of SamTradeFX, sorry for any misunderstanding. We all do our part in fighting FX SCAM.

If you have any question about vesbolt, feel free to PM me. We are not operating in Malaysia and all the brokers we work with are world famous big brokers. All brokers top regulated in UK, Swiss and Australia, our traders are trading from foreign countries like Singapore, UK, US, Swiss, Australia, Middle East and Europe. We offer many traders for investors to choose if they dont want to trade themselves. If you know how to trade, it is better to trade yourself, if you want a better broker with institutional spreads and offer, i can personally consult you on this FOC.

Trading FX with oversea regulated platform is not illegal, it's like buying Tesla or Microsoft shares in US, it's not illegal as well. Everyone take responsible for their own foreign investment.

Against my deepest condolences to you and your family.

Peace.
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Just to inform u i bought some USA stocks isit illegal ? no because i buy from IBKR also RHB too so im legit i dont play illegal illegal way sir. If u think im illegally buy usa stocks please report me thanks an di dont give consultation or financial advice to people hor. i scare SC tangkap me im just a kid
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Hello sir,

May i ask is vesbolt doing a legal business in malaysia ? do u comply to all financial rules in malaysia ? can pelase show some certificate to proof your are all legal ?

if u are not kindly please get all legalize before u get penalize.

BTW i am not interested in vesbolt as im a scammer and n here to scam people. so many country u can operate legally why do u come to malaysia and do it illegally ?
thats all i can say
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Hi natman,

I think you misunderstood. VESBOLT is an online base trader exchange regulated in BVI FSC and we have clients from around the world including Singapore, China, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Middle East, Taiwan, Swiss, Thailand, Vietnam, Brunei, etc. It is not a Malaysia company. VESBOLT traders all based in oversea and our brokers as well. Brokers, fund, traders are all from foreign countries. All the funds are not trading in Malaysia. Anyone in the world wanted to try our traders portfolio strategies must open an account with the brokers from UK, Swiss or Australia. VESBOLT do not offer any accounts nor take any deposit.

Hope above information able to clear things up.

Sincerely, sorry for the scammer misunderstanding part. Now we all know you are not scammer and you are not part of SamTradeFX.

My bad. I just try to protect DrFX. No hard feeling and dont take it personal.

After all, we all hate FX SCAMMERS who do fake trading or ponzi scheme.

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Hi natman,

I think you misunderstood. VESBOLT is an online base trader exchange regulated in BVI FSC and we have clients from around the world including Singapore, China, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Middle East, Taiwan, Swiss, Thailand, Vietnam, Brunei, etc. It is not a Malaysia company. Our traders all based in oversea and our brokers as well. Brokers, fund, traders are all from foreign countries. All the funds are not trading in Malaysia. Anyone in the world wanted to try our traders portfolio strategies must open an account with the brokers from UK, Swiss or Australia. We do not offer any accounts nor take any deposit.

Hope above information able to clear things up.

Sincerely, sorry for the scammer misunderstanding part. Now we all know you are not scammer and you are not part of SamTradeFX.

My bad. I just try to protect DrFX. No hard feeling and dont take it personal.

After all, we all hate FX SCAMMERS who do fake trading or ponzi scheme.
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VESBOLT preferred brokers including Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote Bank, TradeMax, ATCBrokers, AIMS and FXTRADING.com. You can find out more about them. FXCM and Swissqoute Bank are both public listed company in US and Swiss.

This post has been edited by terrytan: May 17 2021, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(terrytan @ May 17 2021, 11:17 PM)
Hi natman,

I think you misunderstood. VESBOLT is an online base trader exchange regulated in BVI FSC and we have clients from around the world including Singapore, China, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Middle East, Taiwan, Swiss, Thailand, Vietnam, Brunei, etc. It is not a Malaysia company. VESBOLT traders all based in oversea and our brokers as well. Brokers, fund, traders are all from foreign countries. All the funds are not trading in Malaysia. Anyone in the world wanted to try our traders portfolio strategies must open an account with the brokers from UK, Swiss or Australia. VESBOLT do not offer any accounts nor take any deposit.

Hope above information able to clear things up.

Sincerely, sorry for the scammer misunderstanding part. Now we all know you are not scammer and you are not part of SamTradeFX.

My bad. I just try to protect DrFX. No hard feeling and dont take it personal.

After all, we all hate FX SCAMMERS who do fake trading or ponzi scheme.
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U sounds like Drfx but it got nothing to do with me if u wanna use 2 identity in your posting its up to u.

Sir dr terry u dont have to tell me how u operate im not interested sir, i did not question how u operate but im just asking if u are legally doing your business in malaysia , just a very simple question but u keep turning around ? usually i go mamak or kopitiam i see dbkl walk in ask owner show lesen etc . u just show them what u got simple as that u dont need to tell them how i make kopi how u tarik teh or flip roti canai kan ? fainted

Dont worry if vesbolt is all good no one can do whatsoever to it. i dont know how vesbolt do its biz if u think u are all good just continue sir. I have no power to question u all let the authority do its job , if they think u are legit congrats to u but if vesbolt isnt i suggest better get all necessary documents ready before they come. good luck!

Im just a concern little stupid kid that want to do malaysian a favour. u and drfx has alot scammer policing work in lowyat to do just keep it up dont let scammer have chance same as me when i see rubbish at road side ill pick it up and throw into the bin.

Sorry my england is bad u cannot understand, sorry sir

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I m also quite new in the post..

I am just sharing what I understand from the threat which DrFx is the threatstarter..

I started to become confused when he mentioned that trades can be manipulated although one of the members did mentioned that the trades can be accessed over Metatrader 4..

Which gives me goosebumps to if trades in Metatrader 4 can be manipulated, what are the "real trades" that we are trading against..

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ May 18 2021, 09:46 AM)
I m also quite new in the post..

I am just sharing what I understand from the threat which DrFx is the threatstarter..

I started to become confused when he mentioned that trades can be manipulated although one of the members did mentioned that the trades can be accessed over Metatrader 4..

Which gives me goosebumps to if trades in Metatrader 4 can be manipulated, what are the "real trades" that we are trading against..
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Hi smartinvestor01

We are the thread starter for https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 .

MT4 trades are easily manipulated by any brokers that did not hold any valid top tier license. Without audit requirements, they can do anything they want by manipulate the trades pricing, P/L with MT administrator tool.

It is important to trade/invest with highly regulated brokers and check the brokers review online.
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ May 18 2021, 09:46 AM)
I m also quite new in the post..

I am just sharing what I understand from the threat which DrFx is the threatstarter..

I started to become confused when he mentioned that trades can be manipulated although one of the members did mentioned that the trades can be accessed over Metatrader 4..

Which gives me goosebumps to if trades in Metatrader 4 can be manipulated, what are the "real trades" that we are trading against..
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YEs everything just refer to DRFX thats the best and he policing everything he knows everything but dont ask proof nanti hoot kau u , u disrespect him.
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ May 18 2021, 09:46 AM)
I m also quite new in the post..

I am just sharing what I understand from the threat which DrFx is the threatstarter..

I started to become confused when he mentioned that trades can be manipulated although one of the members did mentioned that the trades can be accessed over Metatrader 4..

Which gives me goosebumps to if trades in Metatrader 4 can be manipulated, what are the "real trades" that we are trading against..
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In their eye everything can be manipulated, only those they recommend wont go wrong.
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Obviously vesbolt is only trading with some famous and well regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, LMAX, Swissquote Bank, FXCM, etc. All these brokers are on our GENUINE BROKER LIST HERE. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 We also saw they are working with brokers that holding Labuan FX license including ICM Capital and AIMS.

There is no indication that vesbolt is a scam. Those FX SCAMS are SamTradeFX, TriumphFX, VexTrader, CP Markets, Midasama, Sentratama, MIA, etc without top tier license and they are broker also they act as fake trader which is conflict of interest. Always check where the fund deposit to, which brokers collect the deposit and trading.

Learn how to identify a FX scam here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 .

We believe most of the FX businesses are operating online worldwide nowadays and it is considered foreign investment. Thus there is no legalistic requirement in Malaysia since Malaysia law allow us to make any foreign investment. Everyone must learn to aware of any potential SCAMS.

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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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Same experience!
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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Hi, same experience as mine investing with Vesbolt this platform. They claimed themselves genuine but their traders totally a lousy trader. They will hide the losing money portfolio and misleading the public the only money-making portfolio. Since 2017, vesbolt has been removing ALOT of losing money portfolio and most of them their traders burst the account!!!!!!

And badly, Vesbolt did not inform their investors prior to making any decision. Be wary if you choose to invest with Vesbolt.

There are times when the founder Dr Terry Tan has been threatened by his investors asking refund the money!

The company is not systematic, only engage with offshore staff which you never seen them in person in Malaysia. There is no office as well, previously they have but CLOSED DOWN! A lot of investors were upset with the performance of Vesbolt and they went to office and making noise. No choice, the founder has to close down and moved!


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QUOTE(natman @ May 17 2021, 08:56 PM)
no need to worry if they are legit,  because Dr FX said so as they have done due deligent on them they are regulated in what what pulau pangkor or pulau tioman or what BV island or phi phi island. tapi this is malaysia disini tumpahnya darah ku. if cannot comply to local law goback to your island be your own king there

Unfortunately drfx does not reveal that they are running a illegal business according to malaysia law. this is a lawless company beware, as Dr FX advice If you loss your money who can u complaint ? SC ? already a victim and the co founder still call the victim name out in open forum which i think is blardy damn rude in my opinion.

Hey do they bother ? they are lawless sakai and will u take thier advice and invest in them ? some forumers already advice learn trade yourself no ea work forever.

Go and read Dr Fx thread from beginning till end he will accuse everyone and anyone but DRfx has never doubt about vesbolt and even gave his support to this company.
Maybe im living in  a fantasy world , suspect they both is from same team , who ever goes in all is scammers only they both is the real one

I hope they will close for real or next thier company name appear in the paper ? lets wait for that day to come.

Kick the illegal scammer out from the country they are sucking malaysian money
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Totally agree with u .. claimed most brokers licenses are toilet paper quality . Provided links to all Veilbolt related brokers . Guess when when u clicked on the links.. fulamak , all also toilet paper quality , according to their standards ie from Vanuatu , Seychelles, Cayman , St Grenadier , Cyprus etc etc . Guess where Veilbolt registered ? British the Virgin Island , BVI … where is that country located 😃. Veilbolt operating in Malaysia with a physical presence ? Mana license Malaysia … hmm
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:05 PM)
If you think we are same team with vesbolt or terry, we have many others elite member on this forum https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 are also same team with us. We committed to fight FX SCAM.
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Click on the all the links provided & u willl see that the so called highly reputable brokers , mainly registered in BVI, Vanuatu ! Seychelles, Cayman , St Grenadier … however if the brokers u are dealing with from these countries , they will claimed it’s toilet paper quality , therefore , lousy but if it’s their brokers with such licenses , it’s top tier licenses .. See the biasness & lies
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QUOTE(scisor @ Oct 21 2022, 01:22 PM)
Same experience!
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KNN … 100% draw down & highly recommended by Tea Tarik & Dr with out forex license… when u ask whether Veilbolt ada Malaysia license .. no need .. it’s a foreign investment … other competitors, mostly scam cos not regulated by “ reputable licenses “ from BVI, Vanuatu , Cayman , St Grenadier — guess what tier are these licenses.. pls use 10 fig to count 🤣🤣
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QUOTE(scisor @ Oct 21 2022, 01:27 PM)
Hi, same experience as mine investing with Vesbolt this  platform. They claimed themselves genuine but their traders totally a lousy trader. They will hide the losing money portfolio and misleading the public the only money-making portfolio. Since 2017, vesbolt has been removing ALOT of losing money portfolio and most of them their traders burst the account!!!!!!

And badly, Vesbolt did not inform their investors prior to making any decision. Be wary if you choose to invest with Vesbolt.

There are times when the founder Dr Terry Tan has been threatened by his investors asking refund the money!

The company is not systematic, only engage with offshore staff which you never seen them in person in Malaysia. There is no office as well, previously they have but CLOSED DOWN! A lot of investors were upset with the performance of Vesbolt and they went to office and making noise. No choice, the founder has to close down and moved!
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Dr forex with lembu license . No comment but plenty of time to call others scam & direct traffic Veilbolt .. 100% drawdown .. what shitty investment is this .. Dispute lah this posting or it’s it true . If 100%% as good as scam lah
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Beside these 2 posters who claimed 100% DD , anybody else has massive drawdown ?
Anybody can verify office closed down?
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QUOTE(trailblazers_song @ Oct 25 2022, 11:04 PM)
Beside these 2 posters who claimed 100% DD , anybody else has massive drawdown ?
Anybody can verify office closed down?
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Of course close down lah! No business mah!
Used to invite those uncle auntie seat there drink teh tarik only. and Dr. terry tan talked bullshit

This company involves money laundering. you check SSM registered in Malaysia, Vesbolt is what? trading face mask and other things. if this business is profitable, why founder go and do sell face mask pulak, adui~~~

another saying, trading in forex means money laundering.

Anyone else know where is Terry Tan staying? Heard he staying around PJ or damansara area.

Go find him out!
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QUOTE(scisor @ Oct 28 2022, 02:43 PM)
Of course close down lah! No business mah!
Used to invite those uncle auntie seat there drink teh tarik only. and Dr. terry tan talked bullshit

This company involves money laundering. you check SSM registered in Malaysia, Vesbolt is what? trading face mask and other things. if this business is profitable, why founder go and do sell face mask pulak, adui~~~

another saying, trading in forex means money laundering.

Anyone else know where is Terry Tan staying? Heard he staying around PJ or damansara area.

Go find him out!
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From the top tier Veilbolt 😰🤣
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QUOTE(trailblazers_song @ Nov 3 2022, 01:14 AM)
From the top tier Veilbolt 😰🤣
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Previously he talk like sweet, now he only talk his cock
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QUOTE(scisor @ Nov 4 2022, 08:47 PM)
Previously he talk like sweet, now he only talk his cock
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Yes . Good in misleading & condemning competitors . Obviously with vested interested in Veilbolt
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 08:59 PM)
Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.
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Yes the Genuine brokers listed by Dr without forex license are regulated at BVI , Cayman , Vanuatu , Seychelles etc . Other competitors with such licenses consider paper toilet quality license. Vesbolt regulated by BVI & the brokers in their website are mainly from the country I listed … lies & mislead is their trade marks. Now they are exposed. As silent as a tomb
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QUOTE(trailblazers_song @ Nov 6 2022, 12:54 AM)
Yes the Genuine brokers listed by Dr without forex license are regulated at BVI , Cayman , Vanuatu , Seychelles etc . Other competitors with such licenses consider paper toilet quality license. Vesbolt regulated by BVI & the brokers in their website are mainly from the country I listed … lies & mislead is their trade marks. Now they are exposed. As silent as a tomb
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Where are these Triumphfx clowns? Disappeared and hiding now? Many people looking for them i believe.


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Where are these Triumphfx clowns? Disappeared and hiding now? Many people looking for them i believe.
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No need ask him liao. His last login was Jan 2023
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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 25 2024, 10:33 AM)
No need ask him liao. His last login was Jan 2023
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Ok Disappeared after Triumphfx game over.
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QUOTE(scisor @ Oct 21 2022, 01:27 PM)
Hi, same experience as mine investing with Vesbolt this  platform. They claimed themselves genuine but their traders totally a lousy trader. They will hide the losing money portfolio and misleading the public the only money-making portfolio. Since 2017, vesbolt has been removing ALOT of losing money portfolio and most of them their traders burst the account!!!!!!

And badly, Vesbolt did not inform their investors prior to making any decision. Be wary if you choose to invest with Vesbolt.

There are times when the founder Dr Terry Tan has been threatened by his investors asking refund the money!

The company is not systematic, only engage with offshore staff which you never seen them in person in Malaysia. There is no office as well, previously they have but CLOSED DOWN! A lot of investors were upset with the performance of Vesbolt and they went to office and making noise. No choice, the founder has to close down and moved!
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This is not true. My account is still making profits with Vesbolt.

These people seems like Triumph fx cockroaches. Not only scamming people, but spreading lies.

 

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