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Investment VESBOLT INVESTMENT PLAN !, PLEASE READ IT B4 YOU START INVEST WITH.

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post Sep 28 2020, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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Hi Cassey Hong Chin Yow,

1st of all, i am amazed with your effort by making this thread/post. I am not sure what's your intention.

When you invest on a high returns portfolio strategy, you should know that the risk is high as well. Apparently you are not a risk taker but greedily want high return portfolio strategy. I did told you before you invest and also encourage to diversify among different portfolio strategies because we offered up to 8 different portfolio strategies.

During March2020 when the entire world markets crashed due to pandemic, the strategy you invested hit badly as well. Low risk? How can be a portfolio strategy return as high as 8-10% monthly recognized as low risk by you? You should not invest with money you cant afford to lose when come to high risk investment. Did you request to stop trading when the drawdown reach 30%? It's your account under your name, you can even inform the broker that you wish to stop trading as well.

Many stock investors, mutual fund investors are losing money as well on March2020 financial crisis. We are grateful that other portfolio strategies are doing well except the high risk strategy that you invested. We have many traders managing different portfolio strategies, different trading methods, different risk.

One trader does not represent VESBOLT, investors have the right to choose any traders. If you cant take risk, choose the low returns strategy and for you Cassey, better dont invest in FX since you are not a risk taker. Risk and reward ratio is always balance. Dont go for high return and cry/complain when something happen. Risk warning is everywhere on our web site including when you select portfolio manager and everyone should know past performance does not indicate the future returns. Make sense?

VESBOLT never cheat and never scam, we offer genuine portfolio investment with RISK! Most importantly, we have many happy investors profiting on our portfolio strategies. We also welcome good traders who has proven track records to join us!

Feel free to PM me if anyone has question.

This post has been edited by Equity: May 25 2024, 04:20 AM
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post Sep 28 2020, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:02 PM)
on your 8 different portfolios strategies....
does it indicate the probability of losing X% of money in a year?
something like this from stashaway...Risk index level selection.

an example:
a StashAway portfolio with $100,000 and a StashAway Risk Index of 10% has a 99% probability of not losing more than 10%, or $10,000 in a year.
In other words, there is 99% probability that your portfolio’s value won’t decrease below $90,000 if you select a 10% StashAway Risk Index.
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/introducing-high...5%20and%2036%25.
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In investment, nothing is guaranteed. Not even the risk. We stated the past performance with historic highest drawdown.

If investors wish to have limited loss on certain %, they can choose our preferred broker ATCBROKERS which we offered preset maximum drawdown via the PAMM plus platform. The maximum risk % will be the investor choice.

I am not sure about StashAway and not sure it is regulated platform. Anything can be publish on web site but the fact is no GUARANTEED.
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post Sep 28 2020, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:16 PM)
thks for the info about ATCbrokers

it does not need to be guaranteed but they have an number from calculation of Value-at-Risk (VaR) to show about expectations of how much risk to which you’ll be exposed  for each of the risk level selected

btw, that earlier link was from Stashaway Singapore, and it is regulated in Singapore as per
https://www.stashaway.sg/security

malaysia version
https://www.stashaway.my/security
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Generally both are different products. Stashaway risk and returns could be lower and generally focus on bonds. The returns could be 10-20% a year and lower?

For VESBOLT, we are focus much on FX and commodities. For returns wise, we aim to achieve 20% and above annually. Thus the risk is higher as well.

This post has been edited by terrytan: Sep 28 2020, 05:30 PM
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post Sep 28 2020, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:35 PM)
thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif yes different products...

since this is a Vesbolt thread...i will leave the stashaway thing off this thread....
not before sharing this article i got from there too....which i think can be applied to the general population...

Debunking "High Risk, High Return"
Is 6% annual returns high or low? It depends!

How much risk was taken to deliver that 6% in returns?
If you’re comparing returns of different investment products, you should be looking at how much risk it took to achieve those returns.
We all know the saying, “High Risk, High Returns”, but how true is it?

The short answer is: in the long-term, on average, riskier investments will probably give higher returns.
The key words in that sentence are “long-term” and “average”.
In the short term, riskier investments are more likely to give lower returns and experience more losses.

Here, I’m going to focus on how to understand risk and holistically interpret returns.

more
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/debunking-high-risk-high-return

In short, don’t take unnecessary risk
In investing, you cannot talk about returns without talking about risk, and you should never invest in a product based on its historical and projected returns, without having first learnt about its volatility and overall risk.
Make sure you do your homework before deciding on an investment product.
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6% annual return investment is acceptable for Singaporean, but not Malaysian. In Singapore, your FD is closed to 0%. In Malaysia, our FD returns are slightly better.

Anyway, this is not VESBOLT thread. I will end here. Thank you.
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post May 17 2021, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(natman @ May 17 2021, 09:33 PM)
A company do not comply with malaysia financing rules means they are criminals , agree ? so what should a malaysian do ? they are like stray animals in malaysia nothing more. these kutu  we must remove them totally dont give them chance to live longer it will only make them rich but investor poorer. come on Doc lets do it kill these fleas before they spread, who know maybe other scammers will come in to malaysia when they see this insect vesbolt is doing well many mor ewill slowly infested our country.

kill them before they kill us all
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hey natman,

Just read your posts. I can see how mad you are with my post defending DrFX when you defending SamTradeFX. I offer my apologised to you concerning your parents and FX SCAM. DrFX told me you are not part of SamTradeFX, sorry for any misunderstanding. We all do our part in fighting FX SCAM.

If you have any question about vesbolt, feel free to PM me. We are not operating in Malaysia and all the brokers we work with are world famous big brokers. All brokers top regulated in UK, Swiss and Australia, our traders are trading from foreign countries like Singapore, UK, US, Swiss, Australia, Middle East and Europe. We offer many traders for investors to choose if they dont want to trade themselves. If you know how to trade, it is better to trade yourself, if you want a better broker with institutional spreads and offer, i can personally consult you on this FOC.

Trading FX with oversea regulated platform is not illegal, it's like buying Tesla or Microsoft shares in US, it's not illegal as well. Everyone take responsible for their own foreign investment.

Against my deepest condolences to you and your family.

Peace.

This post has been edited by terrytan: May 17 2021, 10:51 PM
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post May 17 2021, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(natman @ May 17 2021, 10:57 PM)
Hello sir,

May i ask is vesbolt doing a legal business in malaysia ? do u comply to all financial rules in malaysia ? can pelase show some certificate to proof your are all legal ?

if u are not kindly please get all legalize before u get penalize.

BTW i am not interested in vesbolt as im a scammer and n here to scam people. so many country u can operate legally why do u come to malaysia and do it illegally ?
thats all i can say
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Hi natman,

I think you misunderstood. VESBOLT is an online base trader exchange regulated in BVI FSC and we have clients from around the world including Singapore, China, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Middle East, Taiwan, Swiss, Thailand, Vietnam, Brunei, etc. It is not a Malaysia company. VESBOLT traders all based in oversea and our brokers as well. Brokers, fund, traders are all from foreign countries. All the funds are not trading in Malaysia. Anyone in the world wanted to try our traders portfolio strategies must open an account with the brokers from UK, Swiss or Australia. VESBOLT do not offer any accounts nor take any deposit.

Hope above information able to clear things up.

Sincerely, sorry for the scammer misunderstanding part. Now we all know you are not scammer and you are not part of SamTradeFX.

My bad. I just try to protect DrFX. No hard feeling and dont take it personal.

After all, we all hate FX SCAMMERS who do fake trading or ponzi scheme.

This post has been edited by terrytan: May 17 2021, 11:23 PM
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post May 17 2021, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(terrytan @ May 17 2021, 11:17 PM)
Hi natman,

I think you misunderstood. VESBOLT is an online base trader exchange regulated in BVI FSC and we have clients from around the world including Singapore, China, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Middle East, Taiwan, Swiss, Thailand, Vietnam, Brunei, etc. It is not a Malaysia company. Our traders all based in oversea and our brokers as well. Brokers, fund, traders are all from foreign countries. All the funds are not trading in Malaysia. Anyone in the world wanted to try our traders portfolio strategies must open an account with the brokers from UK, Swiss or Australia. We do not offer any accounts nor take any deposit.

Hope above information able to clear things up.

Sincerely, sorry for the scammer misunderstanding part. Now we all know you are not scammer and you are not part of SamTradeFX.

My bad. I just try to protect DrFX. No hard feeling and dont take it personal.

After all, we all hate FX SCAMMERS who do fake trading or ponzi scheme.
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VESBOLT preferred brokers including Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote Bank, TradeMax, ATCBrokers, AIMS and FXTRADING.com. You can find out more about them. FXCM and Swissqoute Bank are both public listed company in US and Swiss.

This post has been edited by terrytan: May 17 2021, 11:24 PM
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post May 24 2024, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(trailblazers_song @ Nov 6 2022, 12:54 AM)
Yes the Genuine brokers listed by Dr without forex license are regulated at BVI , Cayman , Vanuatu , Seychelles etc . Other competitors with such licenses consider paper toilet quality license. Vesbolt regulated by BVI & the brokers in their website are mainly from the country I listed … lies & mislead is their trade marks. Now they are exposed. As silent as a tomb
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Where are these Triumphfx clowns? Disappeared and hiding now? Many people looking for them i believe.


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post May 25 2024, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ May 25 2024, 10:33 AM)
No need ask him liao. His last login was Jan 2023
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Ok Disappeared after Triumphfx game over.

 

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