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Investment VESBOLT INVESTMENT PLAN !, PLEASE READ IT B4 YOU START INVEST WITH.

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post May 17 2021, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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WOW didnt realize got such post, luckily i did deep search on it and found this thread. Hey do u know u can report them to the SC ?

Dont let them earn easy money and walk away freely, somemore can call your name in open forum, good for them blardy rude management team. Just report them they will close shop
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post May 17 2021, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 28 2020, 05:35 PM)
thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif yes different products...

since this is a Vesbolt thread...i will leave the stashaway thing off this thread....
not before sharing this article i got from there too....which i think can be applied to the general population...

Debunking "High Risk, High Return"
Is 6% annual returns high or low? It depends!

How much risk was taken to deliver that 6% in returns?
If you’re comparing returns of different investment products, you should be looking at how much risk it took to achieve those returns.
We all know the saying, “High Risk, High Returns”, but how true is it?

The short answer is: in the long-term, on average, riskier investments will probably give higher returns.
The key words in that sentence are “long-term” and “average”.
In the short term, riskier investments are more likely to give lower returns and experience more losses.

Here, I’m going to focus on how to understand risk and holistically interpret returns.

more
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/debunking-high-risk-high-return

In short, don’t take unnecessary risk
In investing, you cannot talk about returns without talking about risk, and you should never invest in a product based on its historical and projected returns, without having first learnt about its volatility and overall risk.
Make sure you do your homework before deciding on an investment product.
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Stashaway is a regulated company doing legit business dont compare to the low class company vesbolt which run thier business illegally in malaysia and act like they are the best.
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post May 17 2021, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ Sep 28 2020, 06:24 PM)
Make police report and ask Bank Negara, Securities Commission and police to investigate. If it is a scam, then perhaps this can prevent others from getting scammed
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this i likey !!! just report to SC saja easy lai sama sama kasi report 9 ee.

regulated in BVI act like its regulated in malaysia kasi report it and see how it goes, lets see if they are legit LOL LOL
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post May 17 2021, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(terrytan @ Sep 28 2020, 04:50 PM)
Hi Cassey Hong Chin Yow,

1st of all, i am amazed with your effort by making this thread/post. I am not sure what's your intention.

When you invest on a high returns portfolio strategy, you should know that the risk is high as well. Apparently you are not a risk taker but greedily want high return portfolio strategy. I did told you before you invest and also encourage to diversify among different portfolio strategies because we offered up to 8 different portfolio strategies.

During March2020 when the entire world markets crashed due to pandemic, the strategy you invested hit badly as well. Low risk? How can be a portfolio strategy return as high as 8-10% monthly recognized as low risk by you? You should not invest with money you cant afford to lose when come to high risk investment. Did you request to stop trading when the drawdown reach 30%? It's your account under your name, you can even inform the broker that you wish to stop trading as well.

Many stock investors, mutual fund investors are losing money as well on March2020 financial crisis. We are grateful that other portfolio strategies are doing well except the high risk strategy that you invested. We have many traders managing different portfolio strategies, different trading methods, different risk.

One portfolio strategy does not represent VESBOLT, investors have the right to choose any traders or portfolio strategies. If you cant take risk, choose the low returns strategy and for you Cassey, better dont invest in FX since you are not a risk taker. Risk and reward ratio is always balance. Dont go for high return and cry/complain when somthing happen. Risk warning is everywhere on our web site including when you select portfolio strategy and everyone should know past performance does not indicate the future returns. Make sense?

VESBOLT never cheat and never scam, we offer genuine portfolio investment with RISK! Most importantly, we have many happy investors profiting on our portfolio strategies. We also welcome good traders who has proven track records to join us!

Feel free to PM me if anyone has question.
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WOW u are giving investment advice openly ? can please show us a proof what makes u qualify to give advice and is vesbolt regulated in malaysia ? Hey now this is a real human case 100% drawdown wooooo con job man . u guys only provide robot to trade and not look after the whole market when it meltdown and close all open trades ? as i know max i know is 60% DD and all trade is close, how isit possible 100 % ? makan commission buta ka ? or is a scam ???



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post May 17 2021, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:00 AM)
Different food for different kind of people.
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Yes but we are talkign about if the company is regulated and legally or to operate in malaysia, what is the broker close shop who to complaint ? SC ? vesbolt will fully fund back ? , food or not lunch time talk
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post May 17 2021, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:09 AM)
When it comes to choices,  like food,.. Same as investment... If wanting to talk abt regulated in malaysia.... And abt how to complaint abt getting money back... Then forex trading platform other than those in bnm lists will never flourishes in malaysia liao...
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yes i understand but when i ask in the forex thread i being accuse of everything scam la support scam la . but hey this vesbolt is doing illegal business here in malaysia and now people having 100% drawdown !!!! this is unacceptable i join a MAM before max 30 % and all trade will be close automaticaally regardless.

As a malaysian we should not let these people continue to con people to subscribe to them. Just curious if they are so good why do they need to run a illegal busienss in malaysia ? anytime they can tapau and go back to BVI

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post May 17 2021, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:28 AM)
Oooh,. That is bad....
As for why illigal business set up in malaysia... My guess is probably less of enforcement or will to enforce it... Just like ah long business
Since this is vesbolt thread.... I guess it is okay to post things abt vesbolt be it good or bad...
But if can show proof in pictures n data then would definitely be able to get more mileage in the direction of the debate
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enforcement they dont know anything till people send them info lol lets wait and see when they close shop see they still can LCLY or not

BTW u from stasaway ? i see some good result from friends thinking to dump my asnb sara 1 and park it somewhere else damn freaking low return damnit kena con 1+ year and i get peanut
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 17 2021, 09:43 AM)
I just opened stashaway in March this year...
Just a note though...
For some people, Freaking low returns, Is better than seeing losses in SA....
Had read complaints for the past months,... Even those of lowest risk rating encountered losses....

I think Timing of entry does play apart, so are the duration of investment
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Thanks for the info i think its because of the stock market dont do well lately. put some in unit trust also a loss now
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QUOTE(tinge123 @ Mar 21 2020, 10:06 PM)
Hi , I just wanna to share my experience for this investment plan.

High risk with high return. mean DD 100%. Please take note , you be lose all your capital & profit at the end.

Low risk with low return. Currently DD hit till 30 % but I don't know the low risk will hit new high ?

This investment with no stop loss at all, mean you need to prepare your capital with total loss.

My account had been burnt last week with max DD 100%.

Remember past performance not guarantee the return !!!
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https://www.sc.com.my/investor-empowerment/...ated-complaints

https://www.nst.com.my/business/2021/03/675...vestment-advice

dont let this company take your easy money away

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post May 17 2021, 08:38 PM

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1 day let me go investigate see see if its really close , they are the real scammers but accusing everyone as scammers.
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post May 17 2021, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ May 17 2021, 04:48 PM)
too bad, I was just about to signup
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no need to worry if they are legit, because Dr FX said so as they have done due deligent on them they are regulated in what what pulau pangkor or pulau tioman or what BV island or phi phi island. tapi this is malaysia disini tumpahnya darah ku. if cannot comply to local law goback to your island be your own king there

Unfortunately drfx does not reveal that they are running a illegal business according to malaysia law. this is a lawless company beware, as Dr FX advice If you loss your money who can u complaint ? SC ? already a victim and the co founder still call the victim name out in open forum which i think is blardy damn rude in my opinion.

Hey do they bother ? they are lawless sakai and will u take thier advice and invest in them ? some forumers already advice learn trade yourself no ea work forever.

Go and read Dr Fx thread from beginning till end he will accuse everyone and anyone but DRfx has never doubt about vesbolt and even gave his support to this company.
Maybe im living in a fantasy world , suspect they both is from same team , who ever goes in all is scammers only they both is the real one

I hope they will close for real or next thier company name appear in the paper ? lets wait for that day to come.

Kick the illegal scammer out from the country they are sucking malaysian money

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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:05 PM)
If you think we are same team with vesbolt or terry, we have many others elite member on this forum https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 are also same team with us. We committed to fight FX SCAM.
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yes continue fight scam good job !! support u 10000 %
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 08:59 PM)
Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.
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IC thanks for your advice on samtrade i will retrieve my money accordingly.

May i ask is vesbolt regulated in malaysia, cmply with malaysia financial law and is legal they operate in malaysia ?

Kindly advice and share your experience thanks

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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:05 PM)
If you think we are same team with vesbolt or terry, we have many others elite member on this forum https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 are also same team with us. We committed to fight FX SCAM.
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i dont know if u are a team and i have no interest in your sir, but your keep pming me explaining to me etc etc
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 08:59 PM)
Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.
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BTW sorry did i miss out something ? u did not explain how samtrade scam no proof when i asked but what i get is u accusing me as a agent, im here to scam people , i support scammers. and u called me kid stupid etc etc ? are u too old to recall ? kindly go back to your page and have a look thanks doc

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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 08:59 PM)
Hi natman,

As mentioned to you, based on our due diligence, vesbolt is trading with highly regulated brokers like Pepperstone, Axi, FXCM, LMAX, Swissquote bank, etc. It is impossible for vesbolt to be a scam or manipulate trades. These popular brokers are world top tier brokers.

If vesbolt is trading with SamTradeFX, then it could be a scam. We dont think it is trading with SamTradeFX as professional traders will not go for unregulated brokers.

We understand you wanted to know more about SamTradeFX SCAM FX and we hope our information help you understand better how SCAM FX operate.
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BTW accusing people and using bad words is your style i read from page one of your post , everyone also u hentam only terry u did not lol anyway im notinterested with your relationship i just told u i just did what a malaysian should do , is to prevent something bad happen or others being scam .

U can continue do your policing in brokers and i do ground work, keep it up, lets go!
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:16 PM)
As mentioned to you on the other thread and private message, any foreign investments doesn't need to comply to Malaysia law and Malaysian has the right to invest oversea with their own risk to take. We are talking about FX SCAM, not about Malaysia law. FX industry is base on international law, Malaysia has no FX law, except Labuan.

Obviously vesbolt is not a local firm and they are regulated in BVI FSC, as for investors deposit are with their selected brokers either UK, Australia or Switzerland based on what we see from the brokers that they are using. Non are trading in Malaysia. If you think vesbolt is illegal, then every traders and brokers in the world are illegal in Malaysia too, that's including Gain Capital, IG, Oanda, Pepperstone, IC Markets, Axi, Dukascopy, Swissquote etc. Non of them registered or licensed in Malaysia.
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Oh i see thanks for your valuable information, others im not so interested to know or i dont see them promoting thier service in malaysia ? did u see any of them ? let me know ill do my best to prevent them to grow bigger thanks doc
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:16 PM)
As mentioned to you on the other thread and private message, any foreign investments doesn't need to comply to Malaysia law and Malaysian has the right to invest oversea with their own risk to take. We are talking about FX SCAM, not about Malaysia law. FX industry is base on international law, Malaysia has no FX law, except Labuan.

Obviously vesbolt is not a local firm and they are regulated in BVI FSC, as for investors deposit are with their selected brokers either UK, Australia or Switzerland based on what we see from the brokers that they are using. Non are trading in Malaysia. If you think vesbolt is illegal, then every traders and brokers in the world are illegal in Malaysia too, that's including Gain Capital, IG, Oanda, Pepperstone, IC Markets, Axi, Dukascopy, Swissquote etc. Non of them registered or licensed in Malaysia.
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Doc u are replying in a victim thread lah u dont see it or u still hiding in the cave thinking u own everything ? the victim account go burst 100% drawdown. EA usually have a percentage DD than automatic close all trades how isit possible to have 100% can please share ? vesbolt is a professional how can it possible cant see whats coming ? pity this lady owner kena scam
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 09:16 PM)
As mentioned to you on the other thread and private message, any foreign investments doesn't need to comply to Malaysia law and Malaysian has the right to invest oversea with their own risk to take. We are talking about FX SCAM, not about Malaysia law. FX industry is base on international law, Malaysia has no FX law, except Labuan.

Obviously vesbolt is not a local firm and they are regulated in BVI FSC, as for investors deposit are with their selected brokers either UK, Australia or Switzerland based on what we see from the brokers that they are using. Non are trading in Malaysia. If you think vesbolt is illegal, then every traders and brokers in the world are illegal in Malaysia too, that's including Gain Capital, IG, Oanda, Pepperstone, IC Markets, Axi, Dukascopy, Swissquote etc. Non of them registered or licensed in Malaysia.
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A company do not comply with malaysia financing rules means they are criminals , agree ? so what should a malaysian do ? they are like stray animals in malaysia nothing more. these kutu we must remove them totally dont give them chance to live longer it will only make them rich but investor poorer. come on Doc lets do it kill these fleas before they spread, who know maybe other scammers will come in to malaysia when they see this insect vesbolt is doing well many mor ewill slowly infested our country.

kill them before they kill us all
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QUOTE(DrFX @ May 17 2021, 10:34 PM)
You can say fake FX like TriumphFX, SamTradeFX, Midasama, MIA, etc are criminals of FX SCAM. We dont see vesbolt as a FX SCAM, we know well about the FX industry, this is why we created https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126 this thread to help innocent investors to fight FX SCAMs.

The misunderstanding started with us that we thought you are the FX scammer from SamTradeFX. It's a complete misunderstanding. terry defending us because of your aggressiveness. We hope everyone find peace here.
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Dr i dont want to be rude but u are saying i am agressive ? i dont like to repeat , im not going to post anything in your thread and like i said if they are legit no need to worry too much let the authority handle it ok ? vesbolt should proof to all that they are in business legally and got nothing to hide.

Scammers or not is not an issue i am just a normal malaysian trying to kill all these flies and insect that only do harm to the community. enough said ?

I dont understand what is the problem with you sir ? f u have a problem with me kindly report me that im rude or im agressive to you remove me and ban me totally.

Im a agressive stupid kid trying to scam people in forum and promoting samtrade to scam people.

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