Ask bank. Proton really have high interest. Double standard.

Here's a real picture

Bro,

Waaa... sure thing man. its a car vs Tree. have u seen the latest accident somewhere around last week. 4 in MYVi dead with the others in ISWARA also serious injuries. Got big picture on front page also...which is a big milo junk that i also at first think its just a kancil/viva....to my shock...MYVI!!!.

Now that is a one to one comparison. P1 vs P2. just like wat u guys did on the WAJA vs VIOS be4 somewhere in this forum.

40k car price range...where can get u big/safe cars. get urself a 100k imported car larrr.

Impressive work from syed zainal, they listen to their customers and paid attention on it!

Ya i know but the trust and confident is long smash apart about this Proton car. Still scare

Both technology is suppose to improve the engine performance. We all have heard/read about how sluggish Campro is below 4k RPM. Driving in city can hardly take you up to 4k RPM and then there is the issue of noise.

A sluggish engine at low end will consume more petrol as in city we tend to be revving low. Before all these technology, engine are normally tuned to optimum performance at a certain range range of RPM. with these technology (valve timing and VLIM), the engine is suppose to have good perform across wider range of RPM.

you see... the valve open/close sequence is controlled by the shape of the lobe on the camshaft. Since this is a mechanical part, the valve opening and closing timing is fixed. At different engine speed, to achieve optimum performance we need a different timing. The valve timing technology will address this.

now VIM... air and fuel burn in the combustion chamber to run the wheel. so air is one important component in the performance factor. thus people doing CAI (cold air intake), open pod, replace drop-in etc. In most manifold, the path the air travel before reaching the combustion chamber is fixed. Again, at different engine speed, different air condition is prefered. VIM address this by having (as the name...!!!) variable length. At low engine speed, the air will travel faster to the engine (i hope i remember this correctly) and vice versa.

Proton's VLIM implementation uses plastic which again is another advantage. Plastic is easier to form to any shape. So the path can be design to give the best flow.

Hope i got the explanation right. Anyone spot and mistake please do correct. Feel free to add also.

I believe 4.1% will get u the extra 2 or 3 years warranty. It's the same with P2. 4.1% gets me another 2 years warranty for my Myvi.

So it depends on ur loan amount. If loan amount is small, it might be worth it to take slightly higher %. Just ask the salesman how much to pay for the extra warranty....for the Savvy it's around RM350 according to P1 salesman the other day.

So just ask and calculate. See whether it's cheaper to pay upfront or put it into the loan.

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Added on July 24, 2007, 5:01 pmNice info.

Sure beats the other fella who has nothing to say but DVVT SUCKS!!! (You know who u are. ).

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 24 2007, 05:01 PM

wait next year buy maybe got promotion like savvy...zzz

I dont think so, i believe the gen2 sedan will definery becoming a true proton's savior. This could be the year proton bounce back perhaps.

i truly hope so. with the right quality and price, why not???

This post has been edited by demio121: Jul 24 2007, 05:39 PM

Not easy to rebound from such a huge loss with just one model. It will take a lot of time for Proton to heal the wounds. The publicity of the Gen2 Sedan maybe wide but it is the buyers' confidence that worries Proton.

I will not buy one unless it is proven by many parties that the Gen2 sedan is a good car.

Perodua almost sapu an entire market with juz 1 model... Myvi. see... given the right quality (and Myvi is not particularly of high quality) and price, the car will sell. Then again, proton not only have to produce quality car at the right price, they have another more savage battle raging on... consumer perception.

This post has been edited by demio121: Jul 24 2007, 06:02 PM

soso..if the lower end of this car is around rm45k...how much will the wira,saga,waja be in future?

saga and wira belong to where they rightly so... in the museum. not in production line..!!!

wira and saga is going to phased out.
current gen.2 will be like iswara aeroback in the olden days
waja will be stayed in the range of above 60k

so i don't see any major killing other product lines here

while the savvy and neo is in different category already

anyone has get the real picture of this car?

hey hey hey...

what do you tink abt the waja compared to this sedan...

the waja will also be fitted with the CPS...any ideas?? any opinions??

still not launched la....so? no perfect pics...

this new sedan gonna be proton last hope i think... if this time again their project fail... i think proton staff can start find new job

This is from the website

"Customers are invited and encouraged to book their cars now to avoid being on a long wait list!"

I wonder how many units Proton stock up before the launch this model.