About the new Gen2, anyone know about the specs and do you have interest on buying this car? I have seen it but still have no confident and trust in Proton car.
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 Jul 23 2007, 11:57 AM, updated 19y ago
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Jul 23 2007, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jul 23 2007, 12:03 PM) the spec is very impressive with the price .. compare with a vios/city Ya i know it own lotus. But everytime i read newspaper and saw those proton car split in half when bang the tree i very interested to buy it y no confident ? proton own lotus and lotus a famous company ... as good as ferrari company   . The people inside |
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Jul 23 2007, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(dazzle @ Jul 23 2007, 12:14 PM) u all still interested in Proton. I like the last phrase. But i own a proton. Just started to come out and work. Hope to find some $$ and change car Waste alot of rakyat want money. Proton own lotus company. This is not a very big deal. But is a waste money. They had establish their company for more that 20 year. Somehow the quality on the current market is damn shit. I will not have my life with Proton. Proton louzy Hidup tanpa proton, Malaysia boleh.  |
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Jul 23 2007, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(nitsujyuen @ Jul 23 2007, 12:18 PM) with the actual campro engine, and a sedan version. It might be a better car than its previous gen2 lor..hehehe Agree but who knows what disaster await us  |
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Jul 23 2007, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Jul 23 2007, 01:31 PM) If you want to compare i think u can take a 3 years vios/city and then compare with a 3 years proton. Then you can see how impressive is it.... Own Lotus so??? VW also don't want to buy it .... Just my comment.  You got HIM!! You got him. LOL |
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Jul 23 2007, 02:11 PM
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Ok i am a marketing fellow. And i learn a lot from multi national company. All my case are base on real life example as this company do search for consultation from my marketing organisation.
Do you know toyota owning the world currently most effecient manufacturing plant in the world. Their cost per car is around 20-30k. Definitely there is reason and where the can minimise their cost. Guess how much Proton production cost for a normal Wira. Is around the same like toyota. You know why? 1) Demand less than production. So you can see many proton car lying around. VW only produce when ever their customer demand for 1. Estimate 1 day only you can get a car LOL. National Geo got shows it 2) Human resource over loaded. When you don't need to produce so much car why need them 3) Selecting wrong partners. Selecting the cheapest will only cause many defect. Do you know if toyota found out their partner have any defect they will return all the parts back? That is how strict they are. |
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Jul 23 2007, 02:43 PM
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No matter how Proton still have a distinct advantage over all other brand car manufacturer
Super duper cold air cord LOL |
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Jul 23 2007, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(wut2du @ Jul 23 2007, 04:10 PM) i've found tis at proton website Can i know the point of this? We already have all the specs upfront pageQuestion: Is this a Mitsubishi based model? Answer: No, since the Waja, there has not been any Mitsubishi-based model. Question: Is this new car running on the Campro engine? Answer: Yes, it is running on the Proton Campro Engine, ith improved TCU for better performance. Question: What is the engine specification? Answer: 1.6L - Max Power: 82kw (110bhp) @ 6000rpm Max Torque 148NM @ 4000rpm Question: What is the standard service interval? Answer:/div> Every 10,000km. Question: Can I test drive before buying? Answer: Yes, please visit the nearest Proton showroom to test drive the New Sedan after our official launch. Question: What colours will be available? Answer: Iridescent White, Solid Red, Light Gold, Tranquility Black, Metal Grey & Blueberry Tea. Solid White will be available from September 2007 onwards. Question: What are the dimensions of the New Sedan? Answer: Overall Length Overall Width Overall Height Fuel Capacity Luggage Volume Weight 4477mm 1725mm 1438mm 50 L 430 L 1180 - 1210 KG |
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Jul 23 2007, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(wut2du @ Jul 23 2007, 04:18 PM) wat i meant is wat feralee juz put is wrong OIC sorry bro there is no hid nor new campro with cps  . Didnt get ya. My bad. ya |
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Jul 23 2007, 04:41 PM
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So is just some minor add into the car accesorries? No changes to the engine? Is it still the same engine like Waja. I heard people say that you have to wait a few minute for Waja to warm before you can move, if not the car no power. Is it same for this car too?
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Jul 23 2007, 04:52 PM
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Actually is not a bad car. Is just that can we trust it? The confident and trust is long gone since 1984.
Added on July 23, 2007, 4:53 pm QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 23 2007, 04:46 PM) not only waja... all of the cars in this world needed to warm up 1st if want to 100% perform the engine capability... No What i mean is it cant even have 50% powergood example as F1 car, will they use a cold engine before race? even the tyre also have to keep it warm... This post has been edited by barrylin: Jul 23 2007, 04:53 PM |
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Jul 24 2007, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jul 24 2007, 12:03 PM)  oh no... hopefully perodua dun follow proton footsteps like tht... killing off the value of current model... |
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Jul 24 2007, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(kaizou @ Jul 24 2007, 03:02 PM) Bro, Ya i know but the trust and confident is long smash apart about this Proton car. Still scareWaaa... sure thing man. its a car vs Tree. have u seen the latest accident somewhere around last week. 4 in MYVi dead with the others in ISWARA also serious injuries. Got big picture on front page also...which is a big milo junk that i also at first think its just a kancil/viva....to my shock...MYVI!!!.  Now that is a one to one comparison. P1 vs P2. just like wat u guys did on the WAJA vs VIOS be4 somewhere in this forum. 40k car price range...where can get u big/safe cars. get urself a 100k imported car larrr.  |
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Jul 25 2007, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(CooShyRee @ Jul 25 2007, 10:08 AM) same rims, same doors, same bumper design, only wit a different grill and a bit of xtra ass.. Agree to it still hoping for something new but haiii, dissapointed atm, must have a look in interior side? I Guess still plactic covering everything. When you have a big accident not the impact that kill you but sharp razor broken plactic poke you till death. |
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Jul 27 2007, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Jul 27 2007, 09:19 AM) kutuk-2 proton tp pakai proton gak.... apa daaa What to do not yet have so much$$  Added on July 27, 2007, 9:21 am rm 500 booking become deposit when financing approved... so no choice. |
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Jul 27 2007, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Jul 27 2007, 03:53 PM) at least proton have all category... p2 alik-2 compact car.... too small.... No offence ok. You sounds like a Proton agent. LOL. Maybe you can give more info to us to  . |
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Jul 30 2007, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Jul 30 2007, 10:17 AM) will post feedback at LYN after get my car....... and take same pic interior and exterior.... Nice but when can you get it? |
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Jul 30 2007, 11:27 AM
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Yeah cant wait for the review and if can show some internal stuff (original 1)
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Jul 30 2007, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 30 2007, 03:53 PM) I guess TCU should be Tranmission Control/Computer Unit. Meanwhile ECU is Engine/Eletronic Control/Computer Unit. All this thing is confusing me, what tcu icu or...That said, I take it as the Gen2 sedan only have updated TCU (as written on the 'spec'). So no CPS or VIM yet. What the heck the do? What is the different? |
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Aug 1 2007, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(chaku @ Aug 1 2007, 12:31 PM) u cannot blame the designer...they designed maybe hundreds of concept..but the management decide which goes to production... LOL got so many problem. HMmm better wait till the first batch give response firstbtw i dun thing the launching the new sedan as a foolish act.not a smart move but not a foolish act...it may look the same as the gen2, but they hv improve all the problem on the current gen2...  |
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