Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

18 Pages « < 14 15 16 17 18 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 BNM Cut Rate Again But Not Benefit For New Loan, BNM Cut Rate Again But Not Benefit For N

views
     
cy91
post Jul 8 2020, 09:44 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,296 posts

Joined: Nov 2019
so now the benchmark for housing loan rate is ... 2.85%?
WahBiang
post Jul 8 2020, 09:45 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,718 posts

Joined: Nov 2015
QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jul 8 2020, 09:38 AM)
I don't understand the part where you said because right now the rate other people getting is the same, it means that spread has increased sweat.gif

Shouldn't it be the same mathematically? If the spread has increased, BR+Spread should be higher, no?
*
if the old loans rate is also based on the latest BR (after OPR cut), then compare it against new loan rate, if similar, then I think okay.. but somehow, the BR not necessary must drop in line with OPR drop, so need to watch out...
icemanfx
post Jul 8 2020, 09:50 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
21,456 posts

Joined: Jul 2012


QUOTE(cy91 @ Jul 8 2020, 09:27 AM)
Buy bank shares or buy property?  tongue.gif
*
those believe they outsmart bank buy property.

QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jul 8 2020, 09:36 AM)
Buy prop for urself. Buy shares if via her. ☺️
*
Flowers sellers always claims his flowers is freshest regardless.

ManutdGiggs
post Jul 8 2020, 09:53 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
13,759 posts

Joined: Jun 2011
QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 8 2020, 09:50 AM)
those believe they outsmart bank buy property.
Flowers sellers always claims his flowers is freshest regardless.
*
Vely true when u look at fun minizer selling funds 🥱
blanket84
post Jul 8 2020, 09:53 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,520 posts

Joined: May 2008
QUOTE(WahBiang @ Jul 8 2020, 09:45 AM)
if the old loans rate is also based on the latest BR (after OPR cut), then compare it against new loan rate, if similar, then I think okay.. but somehow, the BR not necessary must drop in line with OPR drop, so need to watch out...
*
Yes. I do understand that BR doesn't necessarily drop according to OPR drop. But BR for a single bank would be the same across the board for all right? So, if an old client of a bank is paying 3.2% interest, and the new client also being offered 3.2%, shouldn't it mean that for both of them BR+spread is the same?
Zwean
post Jul 8 2020, 10:17 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,269 posts

Joined: Dec 2019
QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jul 8 2020, 09:53 AM)
Yes. I do understand that BR doesn't necessarily drop according to OPR drop. But BR for a single bank would be the same across the board for all right? So, if an old client of a bank is paying 3.2% interest, and the new client also being offered 3.2%, shouldn't it mean that for both of them BR+spread is the same?
*
So far BR all drop in tandem

Spread is fixed
cy91
post Jul 8 2020, 10:25 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,296 posts

Joined: Nov 2019
QUOTE(Zwean @ Jul 8 2020, 10:17 AM)
So far BR all drop in tandem

Spread is fixed
*
BR is depends on bank negara interest.

Spread is depends on your credit worthiness.
Zwean
post Jul 8 2020, 10:27 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,269 posts

Joined: Dec 2019
QUOTE(cy91 @ Jul 8 2020, 10:25 AM)
BR is depends on bank negara interest.

Spread is depends on your credit worthiness.
*
BR depends on the bank's cost of funds.

If their cost of fund increase so will their BR whether OPR is adjusted or not.

The fixed spread is the key factor here, so get as low of a spread as possible.
WahBiang
post Jul 8 2020, 10:59 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,718 posts

Joined: Nov 2015
QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jul 8 2020, 09:53 AM)
Yes. I do understand that BR doesn't necessarily drop according to OPR drop. But BR for a single bank would be the same across the board for all right? So, if an old client of a bank is paying 3.2% interest, and the new client also being offered 3.2%, shouldn't it mean that for both of them BR+spread is the same?
*
yes, but what if they don't want to drop?

QUOTE(Zwean @ Jul 8 2020, 10:17 AM)
So far BR all drop in tandem

Spread is fixed
*
Not necessary, you may check the historical BR rates movement vs OPR movement across few banks over the past few years... the timing of BR drop can be delayed by quite some time as well.

This post has been edited by WahBiang: Jul 8 2020, 11:00 AM
popiah88
post Jul 8 2020, 11:13 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
13 posts

Joined: Jan 2013
I'm in dilemma and become more confuse now (sorry, its my first property)
When I did my research, spread rate seems to be fixed.

SO for example, in my situation, i have 2 offers last week:
MBB= 2.0 (BR) + 1.35(SR) = 3.35
RHB= 2.75(BR) + 0.55(SR) = 3.30

So based on the discussion here, aiming on lower SR, it is a wise choice to go for RHB then?

I charted a trend graph as well to see the health of the banks.

user posted image

Did a very basic forecast (again, apologies as finance is not my strong suite, just trying to get a calculative decision - aware that there's tons of other factors that can impact the forecast)
Any guru to guide me on the decisioning here?

user posted image
kochin
post Jul 8 2020, 11:18 AM

I just hope I do!
********
All Stars
10,314 posts

Joined: Dec 2009
From: Malaysia


i wonder if anyone still have those blr - x.x% package.
if got those then the loan damn cheap.

imagine many many years ago, there were those blr - 1% package.

fast forward now if blr is 2.5% then including the negative spread means only 1.5%?


Zwean
post Jul 8 2020, 11:35 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,269 posts

Joined: Dec 2019
QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 8 2020, 11:18 AM)
i wonder if anyone still have those blr - x.x% package.
if got those then the loan damn cheap.

imagine many many years ago, there were those blr - 1% package.

fast forward now if blr is 2.5% then including the negative spread means only 1.5%?
*
BR and BLR is different.

BLR is higher than BR Internally they still have BLR
WahBiang
post Jul 8 2020, 12:10 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,718 posts

Joined: Nov 2015
QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 8 2020, 11:18 AM)
i wonder if anyone still have those blr - x.x% package.
if got those then the loan damn cheap.

imagine many many years ago, there were those blr - 1% package.

fast forward now if blr is 2.5% then including the negative spread means only 1.5%?
*
if they set BLR = BR, then definitely we got negative interest like those happened in JPn...

QUOTE(Zwean @ Jul 8 2020, 11:35 AM)
BR and BLR is different.

BLR is higher than BR Internally they still have BLR
*
true, old loans are still based on BLR...
kimio77
post Jul 8 2020, 12:29 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
172 posts

Joined: Sep 2014


QUOTE(popiah88 @ Jul 8 2020, 11:13 AM)
I'm in dilemma and become more confuse now (sorry, its my first property)
When I did my research, spread rate seems to be fixed.

SO for example, in my situation, i have 2 offers last week:
MBB= 2.0 (BR) + 1.35(SR) = 3.35
RHB= 2.75(BR) + 0.55(SR) = 3.30

So based on the discussion here, aiming on lower SR, it is a wise choice to go for RHB then?

I charted a trend graph as well to see the health of the banks.

user posted image

Did a very basic forecast (again, apologies as finance is not my strong suite, just trying to get a calculative decision - aware that there's tons of other factors that can impact the forecast)
Any guru to guide me on the decisioning here?

user posted image
*
really good forecast, from the forecast RHB bank more advantage rather than MBB.
but i already sign for MBB for islamic loan. my current 3.4%.
icemanfx
post Jul 8 2020, 01:04 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
21,456 posts

Joined: Jul 2012


QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jul 8 2020, 09:53 AM)
Vely true when u look at fun minizer selling funds 🥱
*
Unless you are out from your coconut shell, your world is the coconut shell.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jul 8 2020, 01:05 PM
shaoching
post Jul 8 2020, 01:59 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Junior Member
708 posts

Joined: Apr 2008
I am now dilemma which bank to took for house loan. priority is HLB which offer me 2.88 (BR)+0.32 (SR)

however, heard HLB has the right not follow Bank negara to drop the 0.25% BR. which will occasionally make my loan higher then others later on.


any sifu pls advice
Zwean
post Jul 8 2020, 02:03 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,269 posts

Joined: Dec 2019
QUOTE(shaoching @ Jul 8 2020, 01:59 PM)
I am now dilemma which bank to took for house loan. priority is HLB which offer me 2.88 (BR)+0.32 (SR)

however, heard HLB has the right not follow Bank negara to drop the 0.25% BR. which will occasionally make my loan higher then others later on.
any sifu pls advice
*
You "heard"..

Wait for confirmation then decide if not in a big rush.
ManutdGiggs
post Jul 8 2020, 02:04 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
13,759 posts

Joined: Jun 2011
QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 8 2020, 01:04 PM)
Unless you are out from your coconut shell, your world is the coconut shell.
*
🤭
popiah88
post Jul 8 2020, 02:09 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
13 posts

Joined: Jan 2013
QUOTE(shaoching @ Jul 8 2020, 01:59 PM)
I am now dilemma which bank to took for house loan. priority is HLB which offer me 2.88 (BR)+0.32 (SR)

however, heard HLB has the right not follow Bank negara to drop the 0.25% BR. which will occasionally make my loan higher then others later on.
any sifu pls advice
*
Well, spread rate is fixed after the loan signed. But their BR need to reflect the OPR too as well right? Banks do have the option to not follow, but if they do that, they will lose to competitions.


This post has been edited by popiah88: Jul 8 2020, 02:49 PM
popiah88
post Jul 8 2020, 02:47 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
13 posts

Joined: Jan 2013
QUOTE(popiah88 @ Jul 8 2020, 11:13 AM)
I'm in dilemma and become more confuse now (sorry, its my first property)
When I did my research, spread rate seems to be fixed.

SO for example, in my situation, i have 2 offers last week:
MBB= 2.0 (BR) + 1.35(SR) = 3.35
RHB= 2.75(BR) + 0.55(SR) = 3.30

So based on the discussion here, aiming on lower SR, it is a wise choice to go for RHB then?

I charted a trend graph as well to see the health of the banks.

user posted image

Did a very basic forecast (again, apologies as finance is not my strong suite, just trying to get a calculative decision - aware that there's tons of other factors that can impact the forecast)
Any guru to guide me on the decisioning here?

user posted image
*
I think to conclude my question, should we pick a loan with lower or higher spread rate, IF the total interest is the same? And why?
Eg:

MBB= 2.0 (BR) + 1.35(SR) = 3.35
RHB= 2.75(BR) + 0.6(SR) = 3.35


18 Pages « < 14 15 16 17 18 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0228sec    0.42    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 3rd December 2025 - 05:14 PM