wow so cold? I tot intel is hot.

AMD is always hotter.

Why my P4 Northwood 2.53Ghz idle around 51-53C and load over 60C.I already replace new thermal paste.And sumore the fan speed running around 3.3K - 3.8K RPM

Maybe there's something wrong somewhere. Bad HSF mount, casing air flow condition, motherboard sensor problem? Just have to find it out.

Huh that meant my proccessor is ubnormal?

tried... max is 390x8....

It can be anything and you just have to find out. 50C+ idle is really high already.

u totally wrong..
since 1st time K8 is intro... all P4 .. is the one that really hot... even 65'C 70'C in bios (Intel Pentium 4 prescott 1mb)
http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22293 looks here

both amd and intel is always hot anyway...

only recently both cpu is getting cooler and 64nm and 45nm tech...
not the cpu.. is the technologies of smaller transistor that makes them cooler...

I think you're the one which is wrong instead. You should compare things of the same group. Why are you taking Prescott which is one of the hottest Intel processor as a comparison to all AMD's?
Can you please buy an AM2 and C2D then compare and tell me which is hotter? If you're new to this, please read more and don't take a 2004 article as a baseline to prove me wrong.

Added an article as below and please READ.

News! November 23, 2007.
Since when AMD released the first Dual Core processor, CPU technology has contently been on the rise. Then in 2007, Intel took the hardware community by storm when it released the
first Quad Core processor. But no matter how great a technology is for these newly developed CPUs, heat is still the number one concern and with AMD releasing their own Quad Core, the
Phenom it's a continuous uphill battle. Now in 2007, The AMD Phenom comes out with a CPU socket named AM2+, but is backward compatible with the original Socket AM2. Based on the
performance we observed from a Phenom 9700 2.4Ghz, the power consumption, even at idle, went up as high as 168 watts while Intel Q6600 idled at 162 watts! Under overclocking
conditions, the new Phenom will definitely be hotter than Intel's Quad Core. Therefore, it is vital to have the best CPU heat sink for your multi-core CPU. Thermalright has just the right heat
sinks with plenty of cooling capacity to cool these hot CPUs. Want to test out AMD Phenom's limit? Get a Thermalright heat sink and go to it!

http://www.acousticpc.com/

Added another article to prove you wrong and please READ. Look at the heat dissipation and tell me which one produces more heat so which is hotter:

Excerpt from Hexus.net:
Load power-draw appears to contradict AMD's claims, with the Phenom '9700' platform consuming 28W more than the Intel's Core 2 Quad Q6600/X38, surprisingly. The one caveat resides with the engineering nature of our unreleased sample processor, which may not be indicative of processor-in-a-box models shipping in Q1 2008. We'll update this graph as soon as a retail Phenom 9600 becomes available.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10427&page=15

Please do a google for the rest of AMD VS Intel CPU of the same category if it need be. If you're not satisfied, go buy the CPU and do the tests yourself. I've used plenty of them and I'm telling you by experience which is hotter, not by taking a 2004 Prescott article as a summary to everything. It looks to me that you are totally inexperienced in Intel and AMD CPU's and just go by theoritical reading of articles posted online.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Dec 23 2007, 03:23 AM

u say amd always hot is wrong... that's all thanks
yes core2 duo now usage power is lower than amd and win amd...


This post has been edited by cyberloner: Dec 23 2007, 03:35 AM

Maybe I should be very careful and specific in every single post, going through facts, documentations and grammar plus vocabulary checks because Malaysian forummers have problems understanding and intepreting words in a very generalized statement.

In other forums, I normally don't have such issues.

chill out bros... it's always healthy to have discussions.

as for c2q vs phenom thingy, let just wait until b3 from amd & x9xx series of intel to be officially launch. d current batch of phenom is no match for c2q (performance wise) as intel are more mature in term of technolgy, they've been leadin d industry like once amd did (in s939 era) since d launch of c2d. fingers crossed till then...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Dec 23 2007, 04:43 PM

that sounds pretty generalize to me. no wonder cyberloner disagree with u. And please dont generalize all LYN forumers (malaysian) to be having english language issues here.

No worries, I will try to avoid posting in this section of the forums and head my thoughts in some other forums. Plus, you don't have to type a one-liner that has no relevance to the topic attempting to be a hero of the situation. What's the benefit of doing so? To spark a flaming session or create disputes over something that has already settled? If you don't like it, just ignore. Another issue that surfaces here - a lot of people here likes to post nonsense with non relevance posts to the topic. Please improve the quality of our forums by putting up constructive posts.

Last but not least, I have no problems with people disagreeing with me and I have no issues nor hard feelings with cyberloner. However, facts are facts

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Dec 24 2007, 12:19 AM

Is M0 good? I just got myself E2140 . Now booting using 1333 FSB .

I got Biostar 7150 , which is very weird BIOS on the DDR2, 1.95V , do not have 1.8V for it,

my DDR2-800 sometimes error (can not boot up machine) , any program to stress test? Thank you.

This post has been edited by mitodna: Dec 24 2007, 12:47 AM

Newer ones are all M0 and they do fine. My E2140 manage to hit 3.41Ghz.
You can try Orthos and SuperPI.

Some trail passes before i get my artic(mid next week) to hit 3.6:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=286101

Currently only what i could do with stock vcore without crashing occt.

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Added on December 24, 2007, 6:03 amWhat i am OCCTing now with stock HSF:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=286178

356x9=3204,1.465 vcore and crash,load already 62C

This post has been edited by OC4/3: Dec 24 2007, 06:03 AM

what is your temp? mine is on load 57C in the morning now with 2.67GHz, stock vcore, stock HSF , 1500rpm, quite silent,

anyone underclock?

Finally got my E2140 installed yesterday, but the temps are crazy... Way too high for my liking

Idle is 38'C while load at 58'C, on a Gigabyte G-Power Cooler Pro. WTH?!? Higher temps then a stock cooler?

Idle at 33C , may be still morning, using CPUID Hardware Monitor, what is your HSF rpm now? now at 973rpm.

Hey, what board you on now? hehe