Wort to get it? Or should stay away?

This post has been edited by AyamBannedTwice: Feb 19 2020, 01:03 AM

stay away frm BMWs

there is a reason why all bm especially 3serious
sell like dirt cheap in 2nd market

too many owner jump ship

u check same year mercz c class vs 3 series
price in 2nd market

huge different

even kia hyundai still matching mazda in used market..

Tbh whats the actual problem with these 3 series. Would like to know if its in general the maint cost for the car or what.

X5 now got discount for 2018-2019 old stockl

Mine is F30 320i, bought it used, so far not much issue beside wear and tear, some plastic host leaking but can be replaced easily.

G20 looks good ya...

If cannot bear the brunt of massive depreciation in the first 2 years, worth to wait for 6 - 12 months for their premium selection. Much cheaper but still comes with warranty and free servicing.

But i entitled for 7% corporate discount hmmm

Hi TS

From my POV, BMW is nicer to drive, u will feel it. I bought an old e36 318i from a friend of mine. A car enthusiast, he take care of the car well before selling it to me. Can't said much on the new 3 series should be even nicer to drive. 320i got enough power already.

problem is BMW
no problem already a problem

maintenance not repair already cost a fortune


merz is top choice (luxury, reliability)
lexus is much more reliable but no luxury feel

c class in general fetches 10% more in residual value compared to 3 series of the similar year
but i think that's because G20's out already, affecting F30's RV even more, while W205's just being facelifted and not replaced yet

Are you a BMW driver yourself? Maintenance already cost a fortune? Bring out your facts, don't just pluck figures from the sky.

Don't tell me you hear from this uncle that aunty blah blah blah.

This post has been edited by budang: Feb 19 2020, 01:44 PM

320i f30

2018 cost me near 8.5k

They come with 5 years/100,000km free service
Quite tempting for me compared to getting the merc

You're saying maintenance not repair already cost a fortune, hence my question how does the maintenance price of BMW differ compared to other brands?

Which year? I have a 2015 f30, just minor issue like minor coolant leak at turbo, intake host cracked, both issues which wont leave me stranded. All parts replaced under warranty.

I have another decade old bmw, still runs strong today. In fact, it feels better than the F30 lol. For this old car, I've changed the valve cover gasket, oil pan gasket, and the gearbox oil pan+gasket. All become leaky by the 9th year. Battery died on the 8th year, and starter died on 9th year.

If you are entitled this special corporate discount, i presume your income level to not be a huge concern despite the higher maintenance costs.

Try out other brands that are entitled, choose the one you like most, you can likely afford it without much issues.

3 series maintenance is still acceptable as it is the best selling model in BMW range and the parts is quite common worldwide. If your ride is not like hybrid or higher performance ride, usually the part cost is reasonable and some even cheaper compare to Japanese counterparts. Not all BMW parts are expensive and if there is a will, there is always cheaper OEM & half-cut parts to source for after warranty ends. The most important is to get a reputable service center or mechanic to take care your ride as a lot of workshop outside are just ripping ppl off.

The 5 years 100,000km free service package itself is worth around RM10k.

Engine oil + filter change is about RM700++ at auto bavaria. Major service around RM2k. Service interval is CBS, around 12,000KM.

Even though RM10k over 5 years may not sound much to people who can own this car, but the feeling of not having to fork out a single cent after each service makes the whole ownership experience rather luxurious.

My car was just serviced at Auto Bavaria Ara Damansara a month ago and quite satisfied overall.

I don’t want to spend more than 2.5k on car installment
But still want to drive good car

I thought as long as you can proof you are the employee of the corporate that is entitled you can get the discount. I don't think it is relative to the income level..

pay more downpayment
take less loan
then you dont have to spend more on installment

only certain level onwards entitled for this kind of benefit, no some junior executive. So the income likely closer or above 5 figures a month.

both Mer and BMW depreciate like shit, just do the math on used car website then you will know. So don't mind that if you really love the driving and have some spare money for any maintenance, because the 5years service and warranty are not all included.

Just choose whichever more fits your eye.

Get the pre-reg management cars.

Same la i still spend much on car

As far as i know for one IT MNC company, jus need to show name card and ur employee tag, no requirement for rank and whatsover

This post has been edited by selinix: Feb 19 2020, 06:10 PM

My company also the same
Just give confirmation letter sufficient enough

I really curious best price u got for 320i..as I know newer 2020 price is around rm244k..with that price, u can get pre reg 2019 330i at almost same price..

Ya, 320i power is more than enough, but seriously if I at ur place, I will make sure I got best deal for 320i, otherwise will settle down with pre reg 330i.

Combine all together with corp discount + SA discount + downpament, my loan will be less than 200k
If take pre reg no corp discount

Typical Orang malaysia boleh mati kalau tak ambik discount hahahahaha

Not like mati, but Conti manufacturer now all throw discount. If someone pay at full price, then he is so damn stupid.

That is why, I want u to bargain. Now is buyer market ma.

If you negotiate kaw kaw you can get 6 years warranty... Trust me they can if they want to....

F30 320d , never regretted...

U mean 6 years/120000km or 6years/100000km?

Bawa bersabar bro

This post has been edited by jasonlim: Feb 19 2020, 11:48 PM

BMW new keta cums with 5 year free maintenance and 5 year warranty.

Merc also the same or not ?

This post has been edited by romuluz777: Feb 20 2020, 12:09 AM

#apaLagiJasonMau

Nope, merc only comes with 4 years unlimited warranty.

Free service is only for limited run promotion and only for selected models.

Ppl buy bimmer because got 5 years free service and warranty, after 5 years, RV drop kaw kaw...

Ppl buy benzi not because of the service and warranty, and benzi very lansi don't give much discount and no free service, only got 1~2k cash voucher for service, after 4 years, RV won't drop that much. We talk about common models la, don't compare damm cool door models.

Ppl cheapskate like me of course want bimmer because no need spend extra during first 5 years.

If you dare to touch benzi, then be prepared for high service maintenance cost.

The only bimmer and benzi that keep better RV are the entry level prereg/preowned/used/recond Mperformance and AMG models.

Many buy bimmer for the drive experience. It's an ultimate driving machine.

you better confirm whether SA still willing to discount, usually corporate special pricing not entitled to this....but i could be wrong....

hope you get the car of your dreams

Hahahahaha she just texted me last night
Confirm she give
But i plan to get it in the middle of the month, because want to ask for more discount., i got feeling she haven’t met her 1Q2020 target

The G20 320i is a tad underpowered.
Test drove it in Ara last week.

6 years / 100k

eh...even though the SA works in BMW, she also cari makan la....give her a piece of honest money la

BMW warranty all unlimited mileage right? That's the case of mine.

Comparing modern era BMWs & Mercs (after year 2017), generally which one is more reliable?
I mean those common ckd models like c , e, glc class / 3, 5, x series

Thought its 6%?

Lexus more lux feel then merc and bmw combine.

Reason lexus fail is
1. Brand name not as "lux" as the rest in Msia
2. 2nd hand value koyak
3. Its more expensive then Merc/BMW.

Can.

Whatever promo etc your fleet discount still can add on.

Fleet discount only not applicable for pre-own/pre-reg.

Sent my F30 320i cos AC not cold. Warranty going to end in few months time and service advisor said will check what parts need to be replaced and will get it replaced. 5 years warranty and service is worth it

It is 100K KM already?

Eh serious? Aiya now I regret buying CX-5. If I knew such offer should just aim for 3 series.

95K. Asked service advisor if still can send for one last service (previous service was at 92K), answer is NO

Loan below 200k, not priced below 200k.

Since it's retailing at around 248k, I think after Corp + SA discount still need about 220k which is at least 40k more than CX-5.

Ohh, I misunderstood. I thought with all the discount it'll go below 200k

Actually 2nd value of lexus is quite good in market for bread and butter models like the IS250 or GS250.
Only when you want to trade in the dealer will koyak your car price so they can earn more money from your lexus.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Feb 20 2020, 05:36 PM

Still it is a Mazda and FWD. If you driven a BMW, you will know that normal Japanese ride (Except Lexus) still unable to get the NVH, ride and handling of a German marque.

Depends on company kot
Mine is 7% for bmw, 6% for merc

Cx5 is b40 car
Lulz

oh BMW.. ya I know a small company that gets 9% for BMW.. what a load of BS.. i get 6% for both

car and charbor same shit la dudes, you wanna marry someone like Shakira or JLo you cant be expecting to pamper her with commoners' lifestyle.. then you marry minah, amoi or achi only lor...

if you wanna get into relationship with BMW, dont talk bout things like RV, Jenny from The Block tak layan one!!!

Where got i ask bout RV
I ask worth or not only.. my concern on is realibility
If always visit workshop better ayam buy VW

my apology TS, i didnt intend to direct it to you but straight away tembak cos every other post speaks about RV... my bad!

anyway, i am currently driving two PHEVs and one of it is a BMW. Both are less than 3 years of age and all i can say, they have not given me any major issues that might question their reliability. the BM did have one issue related to battery but it is covered under the 5 yr warranty and once it's closer to expiry of warranty, i might change to another new vehicle simply because most major issues for any car n make of the current world starts creeping in from 6-7th year of ownership and i need a workhorse that can pull thru for me.

my last sentence might trigger jepunis car drivers and my caveat is that i am referring to conti makes because none of my current cars are jepunis and the only jepunis i had was vios when i was in my first job

Don't think CX-5 2.5T can smoke G20 320i on straights la. 230hp and 420NM is a lot on paper but in real life CX-5 2.5T doesn't pull as strong as Bimmer from standstill.

I think CX-5 2.5T does the 0-100 in round 7.6sec while 320i around 7.

Aiseh sorry bro aku B40

If want features, x70 better

Should be good with sunset Oren color!

Lol!! I don’t like that color
Aiming for black or silver
But not sure if they got silver color or not

U still charge ur battery onot. I like bmw 530e. Maybe my first conti in few years due to cheap pre reg as compare to 530i.

But I scare, one day I too lazy, and dont charge at all..does the fc become sky high if I dont charge battery?. As journalist said so.

X1 maybe yes but doubt it will smoke 320i. Reason being cx-5 being a heavier & less aerodynamic vehicle. And torque figure on paper will never do its justice. ZF in the bimmer is known to deliver very well despite having less power.

I dont think bmw is the problem. I brutalize my e46 M3 & E90. No major prob except wear & tear. Heavy foot me. I drive nissan, volvo, kia, proton, honda, mazda, merc. But bmw 3series suit me well. Merc but luxury but not fun to drive except A series. Yes i will sell my e90. People will say so much 3series people sell bcos jump ship. But i sell to upgrade to new 3series. Right now got latest 2019 fortuner, camry 2.5, c250 amg, yaris in my garage. More relax on camry, more eye catching on c250, but this best still my e90. e90 parts & maintainance consider cheap.

Consider parts price to car value ratio. I got fen own workshop in pandan indah if u want cheap price.

Zf gearbox is the best i think. It can handle 5series heavier boday & more powerful engine.

stay away get no3 national car

Loving mine so far. 5 years warranty, 5 years free service. Just buy and drive. Granted im not a boyracer nor do i tinker withm my cars

This. Thats why i still stick to my 12years old e90 even got latest camry, yaris, fortuner, hilux & c250 amg in my garage.

I feel like it is ok for what it is.

Now I drive my 330i pleasantly after calming down from the initial surge of excitement

It really shows its power and torque during spirited driving tho. Other than that... The suspension can be really hard for older people. I test drove the x1 pre LCI the other day and though "omg so comfortable"

How old are you and what business you are doing?

Btw, do you know AMG line is not real AMG?

U get G20 320i or 330i?
The 5 year free warranty is cap at 100k right? But warranty is it same or unlimited mileage?

I think only applicable to sunset Oren color !

BMW G20 330i 2019 CBU, Pre-Registered 8,000km, Sunset Orange

Warranty: 5 years, unlimited mileage, starts from the date of registration, for mine it was March 2019, so I still have 4 years left to claim for any defects

Free services:

+ Up to 5 years, starts from the date of manufacture (mine was January 2019), or within 100,000km
+ Service requirements are prompted by the car's computer every 10,000km OR once a year
+ If you do not drive a lot, it will prompt you to service the car after a year from the date of last service, even if your mileage in the past year is lower than 10,000km
+ If you drive a lot, it will prompt you to service the car after 10,000km, even if the date of last service is shorter than a year
+ As such, it is possible to finish the 100,000 km allocation before the 5-year period
+ In which case, you would still have to send the car to the official BMW SC for your services to retain the aforementioned 5-year, unlimited mileage warranty

Hope this helps

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Feb 22 2020, 12:59 PM

thanks bro

3series price is much more attractive compared c
especially in used market.

if got reliable mechanic
is a big plus to own 3s

Bimmer driving experience is good until you drive other dual clutch 2.0 and above.

Again, bimmer more berbaloilah, that is why more ppl buy, price ok, driving ok, free maintenance for 5 years somemore...

i charge daily at home via wallbox and travel to kl and back from shah alam. I regularly charge at BSC too when i head over there for my regular meetings.

I have driven dual-clutch cars and find them biasa je.

In any case, torque converters are fine, a car is a sold as a package. Even the Koenigsegg Regera is using TC

If talking about BMW put aside discussion about resale value. Why buying BMW when you concern about $?
Once you shift your options to BMW, make no mistake my friend, you must have $. Checked !

BMW is not selling their car, they selling driving experience. If you compare this 'experience' with cheap to run, easy maintenance... shame on you.

I was not from BMW family, I am 3rd generation of Volvo family and my heart still with Volvo specially their turbo. Adding new machine known as BMW under my garage didn't fix my wallet issue but I experience different thing in my life. Even entry level 3 series can go way better than upgraded Volvo/Merc/Audi. You can consider Japs car but you must be still in your confuse state between Maria Ozawa and Blonde girl, different league.

Worth? Again, if your equation on 'worth' factoring from Ringgit, then the answer is NO. You cannot get such 'experience' with cheap price. Have you tested G20 before? Go test city drive and open highway drive then you able to tell your self your decision. I'm not saying the other competitor is not good like Audi A4, C200, S60 is not good but they good with their own reason.

The only thing you need to bear in mind if you driving this machine, be humble because in this world BMW driver known the most idiotic driver on earth. I disagree with this, yes I drive fast but every single junction, every single lane I shift, I give prior signal. Today I kena finger by Proton Wira because I beam him on fast lane while he doing 60-70 (110 limit) at 6am and I approach from behind at 140, left lane is empty... cant help.. the car is fast.. move ass h**e !

Depend bro. If prior to dual clutch driver drive MyVi or civic or vios… of course huge different la.

As I mentioned, we buy a car as a package. These engineers and designers have decided to build the car a certain way. While it is important to know the underlying technology of the car (ICE/electric, DC/TC, etc.) do not let the fact that a car has a certain part that you may or may not like take the joy away - unless you buy a crappy car la

the ZF8HP is a decent TC, used in plenty of "Ultimate Driving Machines" which are no slouches. Perhaps it was a reliability decision, perhaps it was a cost decision, perhaps it was a manufacturing/assembly decision, or perhaps it was a good combination of all that plus other factors. The TC transmission was chosen to build the G20 (no manuals at all) and while we may question the decision, it is difficult to do so convincingly as mere consumers.

Sir can you make up your mind? A while say stay away from BMW at all cost a while say BMW worth to own. Internet troll

Oh of course ZF GB is great, proven bullet proof, no doubt about it... I own F30 320i also

I can say due to the cost of production that makes only high performance/ m performance BMW has the DC GB, in terms of "UDM", sorry to say, not applied to normal spec of BMW, not G20 320i too.

TS if you don't mind can PM me what is the final price you got after all discount. I also entitle for corporate discount. Currently consider new Passat, Accord or maybe the smaller G20 if budget permit.

Thank you

I have the 330i, but I have also driven the 320i. Even with its comfort suspension, it is definitely a UDM. Don't be one of those "if it is not an M, it is not UDM" kinds of people please

The engine performance is just one part that makes the car

Haha, ///M another league already.

Maybe you can ultimately attain an M-designated ride later on bro.

Used to drive an old Bimmer as well so I know how rewarding they can be...

Ignore financial considerations and the 'banyak masuk workshop' moniker and just savour how driver-centric these cars can be.

In the future (say 5 years from today) I think if I were to upgrade, Ill just buy a Porsche 718 or stick with the new 3 series of that time. During the times I was driving my Persona Elegance, I told myself to just buy a Conti, if I cannot afford to buy a Conti, I would just stick with a new Proton at that time. Luckily I earned enough to buy myself a 3 series.

About the moniker? it reflects them and their own finances than the contis:

1. If my car masuk workshop? It's a new car, comes with warranties
2. If warranty ends? I will just buy a new one or ones with warranties and free services
3. If warranty ends but not planning to upgrade (waiting for a new launch)? I will just pay for these repairs
4. If no money to buy a new car and complaining about conti car repairs? That means I can't afford to keep the Conti. Just dump the old car and buy a Honda/Proton, or something more affordable as a whole (prices + cost to run)

Money doesn't solve everything, but a lot of things can be solved with money. All these Masuk Workshop complaints are made by people cannot afford to solve these problems with money. When you go eat nasi campur, do you complain that a plate is RM10? No right? If you do, you can't afford it and should probably cook at home. If you are complaining about the fuel guzzling engines, the fast-reducing RV, the repair costs, etc. all the costs associated with owning the car... you simply can't afford it. Go buy a Proton , I drove Proton Persona Elegance for 9 years before I made the jump. If you still complain about Proton cars, then buy a motorcycle lah. The problem is your income, not the car

Maybe I sound pompous, but I see money as a something you can generate any time as long as I work on it. Last year I said I wanted to buy a Bimmer, and this year I bought it. Two years ago I said I wanted to buy a DS Corner landed house, last year I bought it. I am looking at a few big ticket items now, and now I am working my ass off to get them. Who are these people complaining about my Bimmer's repair costs? People who do not have Bimmers or can't afford to maintain them

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Feb 26 2020, 04:34 PM

Nice... Boxster next on the cards? My dad has a 987 version and it's pretty nice. Once you try a Porsche, racun gila. The acceleration and noise it makes is amazing... Of course purists might say 911 is the ultimate Porsche but again, everyone has different means and financial capabilities like you said.

I'm technically under # 4 - my current Myvi is my first 'brand new' car with warranty as all my previous rides were used/hand me downs and it reached a point where I really needed to wean off my dependency on parents to cover for all my car repairs. I was fortunate that my dad is a car nut too - I've had access to cars like Jags, Porsches, Mercs, Bimmers before my dad retired.

One day I shall also aim to get a brand new ride [be it conti/JDM etc] with my own hard-earned money.

Either Boxter or the Coupe (?). Well the one without the retractable roof. I read and saw on YT videos that cars without roof are less rigid so they may have worse handling? And it may not be practical too in Malaysian weather, but no one said I have to keep the roof down at all times.

I am quite sensible. I looked at the 718 S and non-S prices. Then i looked at 911 prices and even I, at my level wouldn't think about it. I would have to go 10x my output if I wanted to safely secure a 911. It may be a great car, but I think i will "make do" with the 718 S.

Everyone's situation are different. You are luckier than myself growing up, but there are people even less lucky than myself growing up. We make do with what we have. There are things like life aspirations that each of us have, that others may not understand. For everyone who says buying a conti is dumb due to an assorted reasons, they have their own aspirations that others cannot understand too - like having an expensive wedding.