Bimmer driving experience is good until you drive other dual clutch 2.0 and above.

Again, bimmer more berbaloilah, that is why more ppl buy, price ok, driving ok, free maintenance for 5 years somemore...

i charge daily at home via wallbox and travel to kl and back from shah alam. I regularly charge at BSC too when i head over there for my regular meetings.

I have driven dual-clutch cars and find them biasa je.

In any case, torque converters are fine, a car is a sold as a package. Even the Koenigsegg Regera is using TC

If talking about BMW put aside discussion about resale value. Why buying BMW when you concern about $?
Once you shift your options to BMW, make no mistake my friend, you must have $. Checked !

BMW is not selling their car, they selling driving experience. If you compare this 'experience' with cheap to run, easy maintenance... shame on you.

I was not from BMW family, I am 3rd generation of Volvo family and my heart still with Volvo specially their turbo. Adding new machine known as BMW under my garage didn't fix my wallet issue but I experience different thing in my life. Even entry level 3 series can go way better than upgraded Volvo/Merc/Audi. You can consider Japs car but you must be still in your confuse state between Maria Ozawa and Blonde girl, different league.

Worth? Again, if your equation on 'worth' factoring from Ringgit, then the answer is NO. You cannot get such 'experience' with cheap price. Have you tested G20 before? Go test city drive and open highway drive then you able to tell your self your decision. I'm not saying the other competitor is not good like Audi A4, C200, S60 is not good but they good with their own reason.

The only thing you need to bear in mind if you driving this machine, be humble because in this world BMW driver known the most idiotic driver on earth. I disagree with this, yes I drive fast but every single junction, every single lane I shift, I give prior signal. Today I kena finger by Proton Wira because I beam him on fast lane while he doing 60-70 (110 limit) at 6am and I approach from behind at 140, left lane is empty... cant help.. the car is fast.. move ass h**e !

Depend bro. If prior to dual clutch driver drive MyVi or civic or vios… of course huge different la.

As I mentioned, we buy a car as a package. These engineers and designers have decided to build the car a certain way. While it is important to know the underlying technology of the car (ICE/electric, DC/TC, etc.) do not let the fact that a car has a certain part that you may or may not like take the joy away - unless you buy a crappy car la

the ZF8HP is a decent TC, used in plenty of "Ultimate Driving Machines" which are no slouches. Perhaps it was a reliability decision, perhaps it was a cost decision, perhaps it was a manufacturing/assembly decision, or perhaps it was a good combination of all that plus other factors. The TC transmission was chosen to build the G20 (no manuals at all) and while we may question the decision, it is difficult to do so convincingly as mere consumers.

Sir can you make up your mind? A while say stay away from BMW at all cost a while say BMW worth to own. Internet troll

Oh of course ZF GB is great, proven bullet proof, no doubt about it... I own F30 320i also

I can say due to the cost of production that makes only high performance/ m performance BMW has the DC GB, in terms of "UDM", sorry to say, not applied to normal spec of BMW, not G20 320i too.

TS if you don't mind can PM me what is the final price you got after all discount. I also entitle for corporate discount. Currently consider new Passat, Accord or maybe the smaller G20 if budget permit.

Thank you

I have the 330i, but I have also driven the 320i. Even with its comfort suspension, it is definitely a UDM. Don't be one of those "if it is not an M, it is not UDM" kinds of people please

The engine performance is just one part that makes the car

Haha, ///M another league already.

Maybe you can ultimately attain an M-designated ride later on bro.

Used to drive an old Bimmer as well so I know how rewarding they can be...

Ignore financial considerations and the 'banyak masuk workshop' moniker and just savour how driver-centric these cars can be.

In the future (say 5 years from today) I think if I were to upgrade, Ill just buy a Porsche 718 or stick with the new 3 series of that time. During the times I was driving my Persona Elegance, I told myself to just buy a Conti, if I cannot afford to buy a Conti, I would just stick with a new Proton at that time. Luckily I earned enough to buy myself a 3 series.

About the moniker? it reflects them and their own finances than the contis:

1. If my car masuk workshop? It's a new car, comes with warranties
2. If warranty ends? I will just buy a new one or ones with warranties and free services
3. If warranty ends but not planning to upgrade (waiting for a new launch)? I will just pay for these repairs
4. If no money to buy a new car and complaining about conti car repairs? That means I can't afford to keep the Conti. Just dump the old car and buy a Honda/Proton, or something more affordable as a whole (prices + cost to run)

Money doesn't solve everything, but a lot of things can be solved with money. All these Masuk Workshop complaints are made by people cannot afford to solve these problems with money. When you go eat nasi campur, do you complain that a plate is RM10? No right? If you do, you can't afford it and should probably cook at home. If you are complaining about the fuel guzzling engines, the fast-reducing RV, the repair costs, etc. all the costs associated with owning the car... you simply can't afford it. Go buy a Proton , I drove Proton Persona Elegance for 9 years before I made the jump. If you still complain about Proton cars, then buy a motorcycle lah. The problem is your income, not the car

Maybe I sound pompous, but I see money as a something you can generate any time as long as I work on it. Last year I said I wanted to buy a Bimmer, and this year I bought it. Two years ago I said I wanted to buy a DS Corner landed house, last year I bought it. I am looking at a few big ticket items now, and now I am working my ass off to get them. Who are these people complaining about my Bimmer's repair costs? People who do not have Bimmers or can't afford to maintain them

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Nice... Boxster next on the cards? My dad has a 987 version and it's pretty nice. Once you try a Porsche, racun gila. The acceleration and noise it makes is amazing... Of course purists might say 911 is the ultimate Porsche but again, everyone has different means and financial capabilities like you said.

I'm technically under # 4 - my current Myvi is my first 'brand new' car with warranty as all my previous rides were used/hand me downs and it reached a point where I really needed to wean off my dependency on parents to cover for all my car repairs. I was fortunate that my dad is a car nut too - I've had access to cars like Jags, Porsches, Mercs, Bimmers before my dad retired.

One day I shall also aim to get a brand new ride [be it conti/JDM etc] with my own hard-earned money.

Either Boxter or the Coupe (?). Well the one without the retractable roof. I read and saw on YT videos that cars without roof are less rigid so they may have worse handling? And it may not be practical too in Malaysian weather, but no one said I have to keep the roof down at all times.

I am quite sensible. I looked at the 718 S and non-S prices. Then i looked at 911 prices and even I, at my level wouldn't think about it. I would have to go 10x my output if I wanted to safely secure a 911. It may be a great car, but I think i will "make do" with the 718 S.

Everyone's situation are different. You are luckier than myself growing up, but there are people even less lucky than myself growing up. We make do with what we have. There are things like life aspirations that each of us have, that others may not understand. For everyone who says buying a conti is dumb due to an assorted reasons, they have their own aspirations that others cannot understand too - like having an expensive wedding.

Yea, wise words indeed. I do salute you for staying calm and rational when so many people here are trolling you, especially making a topic on of the sunset orange... Gosh... But I guess you're taking it positively bro! Kudos.

Are you active on BMWCM forums too? I used to be very active many years ago when I was still driving an old 7 series. Haha. Those were the days.

Anyways, if coupe, then it's the Cayman. Both are extremely wonderful cars though, the Boxster or the Cayman. I'm sure when the time comes, you'll be ready to take that plunge too.

Yea, it's nice having reasonable exchanges with like-minded souls and sharing all the wisdom and experience for the betterment of everyone.

Ah yes the Cayman. If I get that I will mod the crap out of it so it looks more than just a "basic" car. I think they purposely made it basic so we can have our way with it hehehe. I know k/ ive been here for a while; people have trolled more recently but there have always been trolls. I think the racial tension, economic downturns/slowdowns have turned all that to 11, but no harm done - not to mention that I have received some referrals from /k/ as well. The Sunset Orange started as a troll/meme, but I own the meme, meaning that they can't get through me with that Sunset Orange.



BMWCM forums eh? Not yet. Perhaps I will join in, perhaps not. I am a fan of my car, a fan of BMW cars, but certainly not a fan of the "crowd". Its like enjoying Nicholas Cage movies but not necessarily finding out about his personal life.

The Porsche is a dailly-drivable car. I am a practical person. Once I can buy the car I will dump the 330i and use the 718 as my daily driver; will drive it around everywhere. Can't wait hehehe

Cool!

Reason why I mentioned BMWCM is their forums is quite a good depository of info la and also I used to join/organise TT sessions and met a sorts of folks. Doctors/Pilots/Retirees/etc all sharing the same passion - loving the roundel. Haha. but you're right, we're all car lovers and there's little to be gained from bad mouthing other marques or belittling others cos they can only buy a P1 or P2... So much hate and trolling man. So many bashers of Bezza/Myvi/Vios ah beng/Civic Ketam... And yes, I also find it amusing that only in MY we have people wondering about car's RV when making a decision!

Yes, Porsches are pretty much a user-friendly car that can be driven daily, vs let's say a Lambo/Ferrari - too flashy and unreliable some would surmise.

Yea, there was a point someone typed sunburst orange in a post this morning on /k and I was like so tempted to correct him and type 'sunkist' instead.

Sunkist and sunburst orange are something akin to bright orange, which is a good description of the car. It is not orang, nor is it red. Its color changes depending on the lighting, with being under the sun making it better-looking than underground

I like you. Simply because we are on the same page. I f..king hate people in no 4 ... want to buy, but worry. And harsh as it seems, if you worry, it means you are simply not ready NOW. It doesn't mean you can't be ready in the near future. Work for it.

I recently replaced my E90 M3 rear diff. Brand new for about 20k. Was I sad? Of course I was but it's all part of the process of owning it. Each time fluids are replaced, cost RM2k+ ... Petrol? 4L V8 .... bottoms up

At the end of the day, I already have the expectations when I bought it. And any major repairs, won't dent my retirement fund. Money can be made again. But the pure enjoyment of driving it is without words.

As for me, if I do change, it's be either a newer ///M model or a Merc C Coupe.

Nice...

It's like those pearlescent paintjobs in the Need For Speed games then.