To be fair, car prices in malaysia is 2nd highest in the world, when our average income isn't even near the top 20 in the world. Even for used/2nd hand car, the prices are still rather high for bread and butter cars.

Majority are not in the income bracket high enough to ignore RV, because it will be sort of an offset for their next car purchase out of necessity.

I don't get why people keep on harping on depreciation value for a CAR.
Buy the one that you love. It is not an asset anyways. If cannot afford or think too much about maintenance, you can't afford the car, simple.

That's a very fair observation indeed bro.

Catch 22 too. Some marques like Bimmers/Mercs/Jags seem 'really' cheap on the used market but probably the thing that scares buyers most is whether proper maintenance and proper care has been accorded to it by the previous owners prior to it being listed for sale.

And yea, reliable cars like Honda/Toyota/Perodua still command decent prices on the used market, even for those older generations.

For those that looking out for premium brands, yes, your statement makes plenty sense.

But the majority of car buyers buy the car out of pure necessity when their income level is at best so so. People in the bracket don't buy the car they love, they buy what they need. And what they need is already so expensive, they really want the best for their buck.

Bought a 2008 320i m-sport last year for 35k otr, spent 2k fixing the engine oil and coolant leaking issue. Driving it every day is a bless to me, thinking i can enjoy the ride with the price of a proton saga btw, the previous owner did sound proof, changed to android hud, 18” tyre, performance spring, lowered body etc also contributed to the joy of ride

G20 is really sexy, hopefully can get it 6yrs later

This post has been edited by chooikw: Mar 8 2020, 12:20 AM

hi all sifus

comparing this car to c200fl and is in dilemma which to go for. anyone here who is a car owner of 320i can share their fair thoughts of the car

just gotten the car 1 week ago. feels amazing and the interior upgrade from the f30 is miles ahead. got it in saphhire black and the paint looks different in every condition (day and night).
driving wise, you really feel the responsiveness of the car and it handles well too. if you want sportiness go for this. C200fl feels more aged than the new g20 in my own opinion.

Don't kena bird shit can d

hahahah, eh serious la not bird shit 100% coating applicator bodohhh

yea - thinking of the same too, love the black and the newer look. esp c200 is phasing out soon, although i think the interior of merc still outclass a bimmer anytime but what is in g20 is acceptable imo

c200 is comfortable but still it is sort of a hybrid, phobia of changing expensive battery (if someone could also tell 48kv batt costs?) which iam not very incline

C200 W205 FL IMO has better head unit & instrument panel compared to 320i. It's bright, colorful, crisp and more customizable than the 320i (330i has different instrument panel). Driving dynamic wise it's inches behind G20 320i but for day to day city drive you won't feel it unless pushed to the limit. Rear bench sitting comfort I'll give it to G20, didn't like the rear bench of W205.

Regarding the mild hybrid in C200 FL, I don't think there's battery involved? It's just an alternator.

Pricing wise, C200 is about 30k more expensive than the 320i (320i can be had under 240k) and without the 5 years free service which worth about 10k if you utilise it up to 100k km. BMW has 5 years warranty too while Merc only has 4.

thanks for the insight

was told by the sales that C200fl has a 48v battery to run the ecoboost compartments

Even if there's a battery I reckon it's very small in capacity, since the hybrid technology it employed is really mild.

The cost of replacement should not be a cause of concern but you can try checking with your SA.

Just did tyre alignment, balancing and rotation. It is not covered under 5Y/Unlimited + free scheduled service warranty package.

It cost me RM371, tax inclusive. While an Alza only cost RM53 for alignment+balancing+rotation.

Think twice before you really think this warranty package will get everything taken care of during your first 5 years ownership.

Jaguar is better deal interms of reliability.

Huh?! no one ever tell you alignment and balancing is not under free schedule maintenance? Do you know wear and tear such as tires, brake pad, rotor, wiper are not included as well?

RM 371 for a nice job done in SC is definitely worth it, it's a BMW leh, not Alza.

Of course I am aware. I am telling people who think thats with '5 Years warranty unlimited mileage + free scheduled service' = solve all your maintenance fees whereby you dont have to spend a single cent, THINK TWICE.

PS.
One thing I want to point out to you. You seems to misunderstand something about 'nice job done in SC'. Whether its a nice job or not, doing service at SC does not mean 'nice job'. You can get better job done out there.

Dont believe ? I have a friend who works as 'legit SC technician'. The 'nice' price you pay to BMW, its the same service and skills they offer to Perodua. Yes you may say that BMW 'alignment and balance' use special tools, but how special can it be ? Have you seen Tech guy using machine to get the work'done' ??

This post has been edited by exdtan: May 17 2020, 10:16 AM

Bro, did you read the work order prepared by the service advisor before proceeding the service?

Not only Merc, every service center will try to hantam customers regardless free or non free service.. it is normal..

Owners have to read and scrutinize all the work order, ask them to take it out... Wheel stuff can be done outside with much lower cost..

Bro enlighten me. Is WO always provided to customer before SC proceed to start working ? I know Perodua does but only certain type of service.

Back in Wheelcorp, no WO provided. SC only gave me a appointment slip copy, recommends me to do alignment every 10K, ask me if okay to proceed with extra RM371.

I was shock to hear the cost but I said 'go ahead' anyway because I wanted to know what so 'premium' and someone refer it as 'nice job done'.

I only get to see the details of work after job is done and listed in invoice. The item charged is 'Kinematic Diagnosis System. Which is what outside dealer charging me for Alza alignment work . And it only cost me RM53.

After they quoted you RM 371, I thought you aware their service level whether should pay for their services and get the 'nice job done' in SC? No? Simply agree to ask them go ahead and now telling me outside can do much cheaper and better?

Of course I know outside definitely cheaper or better, and I never be so dumb to accept the RM 371 for alignment & balancing in SC in my entire life, however, if I am so stupid to accept their offer, I won't be so cheapskate telling ppl be aware of SC charges, and comparing Alza with BMW.

PS: The 'nice job done' is to make you feel better after you spent RM 371 for alignment & balancing.