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 PPSMI: Think of future of Malay community, says Mahathir

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post Feb 6 2020, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(BluePants @ Feb 6 2020, 11:49 AM)
I cannot understand that lembu who changed it back to BM in 2013. What's his reasoning??
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By the end of the PPSMI program, Malaysia fell by almost half in the rends in Internationnal Mathematics and Science Study (TIMMS).
Turns out, learning math and science in english don't automatically make you better at it.

"Heyy, my kids can memorize and recite Eminem by heart.
I bet she can do English debate very well"
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Feb 6 2020, 11:58 AM)
if basic also fail

what is the point of learning it for math n science?

what is the objective of PPSMI?
to improve math science or english mastery??
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Tun M is a visionary, he can only see the jump from A to Z, but he didn't bother to know about the alphabets in between.
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post Feb 6 2020, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Feb 6 2020, 12:08 PM)
Maybe it fell not bcoz language. Study in BM back also still cant be (among) world best.
Many other factors like student quality, syllabus etc..
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Its not talking about the top ranks, which we're far behind in the first place.
Its talking about the degradation of the existing ranking which proves the program doesn't reflect on the expected results.
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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Feb 6 2020, 12:29 PM)
Malaysians that go to school from Std 1 to Form 5 will have taken at least 11 years of English lessons.

How is it that their english is still bad?
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Some people lived in malaysia their whole lives but couldn't speak BM.
How I wonder. confused.gif


QUOTE(Drian @ Feb 6 2020, 12:30 PM)
If basic already fail , then there's no point considering them. What's the point of considering people who fail english.
If they're lazy and don't want to learn then too bad.
This is to improve people who are below average to average and average to above average. If fail too bad.
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This sort of mentality is what leads to education gap between rural and city students. Being the government, you have to look after its people from all walks of life, taking into consideration the advantages and disadvantages different community possess and then give them the fairest amount of opportunity for all.
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Feb 6 2020, 07:15 PM)
Nope, I'm still inclined its easy. Even today when we have Wikipedia and google translate. It's no longer as hard as those days, which still to me not a frustrating experience.

When you stumble upon certain jargon, you're found it in sentence, or with units, or with related math formula. Which should give a hint what the jargon is about no matter how rare the jargon is. hmmm... OKlah i understand, maybe its hard for you. But to me its not that hard to figure out, which i hope not hard for other student as well.
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I like this mentality.
This is what makes a good student. Being passionate about a certain subject will let you overcome challenges be it in language translation or solving problems in math. There's so many ways to look and search for answers, you only need to make an effort.

To me, I aim to have students with inquisitive nature and a positive attitude.
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QUOTE(lagista @ Feb 7 2020, 09:22 AM)
since the plotekkk still strong against PPSMI, then the only solution is to let schools implement it by choice (not all) n parents can choose to send their kids either to PPSMI or non-PPSMI school

u kenot drag others stay mundur just because of the fear of rural students lack of interest in english

it is unfair to the rest of silent majority students/parents that wanna move forward away from the nonsense

so let it be 2 type of schools: PPSMI school or non-PPSMI school (decided by parents/school/PPD of the area)

as demand grew, more schools opted to have PPSMI n slowly even the rural folks will realised they were left behind

dont worry about the gap risks, most important the country majority can move forward with PPSMI but not stucked with anti-PPSMI since both have given options to exist

oh btw, Brunei so happy with PPSMI and no plotekk whatsover

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yes, I would totally agree.
Choices and options.
Not selective or preferential treatment.
As a nation, you need to consider all group of people, respective of the minorities and the majority.

DLP is actually a good program that showcases this. Parents are given the choice to enroll their children without being forced. I disagree having to create 2 separate schools, but instead introduce the program to all schools.


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