Last week I lost my job.
Company requested I leave immediately on the evening itself. Just wondering, is this normal? Any law involved that say I should be compensated?
Worked there for 3 years.

You'll need a termination cause. Mana surat?

No letter? Sounds like unlawful dismissal.

Any PIP prior to this?

Check with loyar lah.

they need to give a reason, if they didn't then you can make a report

No lawyer friend and family.
Also, the reason was "because economy not good need to let go".
I'm not the only one.

Ucan go to pejabat buruh. They didnt state any letter?.

This is seriously my worse ever Chinese New Year.
Let go just one week before CNY.

If due to downsizing I think they can but have to compensate.

Any warning letter before this?

If no, and they didn't give any notice, you can bring this matter to the industrial court under unlawful dismissal (assuming your salary is above 4k?)

No need lawyer.

This post has been edited by hirano: Jan 20 2020, 12:03 AM

I highly doubt company can do that, unless they have concrete proof that you did something wrong.

report labour court. get 3 months notice pay.

I feel you brother.

Happened to me few years ago.

My ex-boss chose to relay the news to me and asked me to leave citing bad business as the reason.

and he chose a very good time to tell me , just 1 week before CNY.

that was the worst ever year ,and lowest point financially in my life.

There was no warning letter.
To be honest company wasn't in a good financial situation. Last week boss notified and said this is really the final straw.
Company offered compensation of 1 month salary.
My salary is about RM4.5K. I haven't signed the compensation notice yet.

Yeah man!
I mean I'm not at the lowest financial point in my life - still got some savings.
Fortunately I haven't bought any car or house. If not I'll be in deeper shit now.
But imagine going back hometown and people sure ask how's it going. I also don't know how to answer except the truth :/

Just asking, what is your position and your salary (just provide us a range)?

I'm still Googling options but wanted to try and ask /k first.
If you're referring to a work contract then yes. It says can terminate with 30 days notice. That's why boss say terminate immediate, but he compensate the 1 month salary.

Already mentioned above - RM4.5K before tax. No big deal hiding. I'm not like /k level.
Not young. Already 30. But it is what it is.
Position - Marketing Manager. Again, not some high ranking officer.

It was just a temporary setback.

He could have chosen a better time or at least offer me some 3 months notice. It was done very abruptly.

Not that I hold grudges against him, but as a human I think he failed miserably.

I pulled through, so will you. As for your relatives, those who really care for you would ask you to take your time and find job. Those who just want to watch "movie" , then you can just ignore them.

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Jan 19 2020, 11:31 PM

dismiss tanpa gaji atau bergaji?

if its the latter then tough luck for you

I know right! Hey man, can't imagine we share the same experience although it's not a good one.
Also appreciate all the helpful comments here. Unbelievable for /k.

well, if you got 1 months pay in lieu of notice, then thats it,

I like your siggy. It's really applicable to me right now.

He just gave me my last salary and told me that I am no longer needed, that I could stay another month with him.

I left the next day, still in shock , and was angry then. The next day when I went packing, he was so "cold" and looked like a distant stranger.

Humans can change in 1 day, amazing.

I didn't visit my relatives that year. Went to light candles and listen to sermons in the temple instead

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Jan 19 2020, 11:36 PM

Oh u’re compensates
But still it sucks
Hope u find another soon

Oh? I didn't see it, scrolled too fast.

Marketing manager?
Strange, normally it is the lower level workers that got fired first.
Something isn't right here.

Uncle once saw a company terminated a senior employee so the upper management (the boss) can 'insert' his relative to the vacant position.
Do you have any idea who is going to be replacing your position there?

Parked

I am also uncle bro. 30 years not young already.
To answer your question - the company is downsizing from 60 to 30.
I am not being replaced. They're closing down a few departments due to poor financial situation right now. A couple other managers also requested to leave.

I guess such is life. Well I was disappointed on day 1, angry on day 2. Now just empty on day 3.
But apart from that I'll definitely be figuring out my next options. Don't wanna go jobless.

actually there is no point to fight for position in a company that does not want you anymore. It's all about rationalizing a loss, and usually it would be very acrimonious.

A good boss, would sit down with their employees to discuss their termination, and give them compensation, or at least give them a few months notice.

An abrupt termination speaks a lot about the nature of the boss, poor communication skills, and lack of compassion and empathy.

Half?

May I know what is your ex-company business nature?
Manufacturing (what kind of product?)? Service (sales/technical support)?

go google unfair dismissal, u can bring ur company to court if they just fire u off without warning n without compensation, if they want to retrench then need give at least 1 month compensation

This post has been edited by rooney723: Jan 19 2020, 11:44 PM

Technology.
Don't want to go into the details but we do hardware.

Sorry for what happen to you.

Firstly, do you know the company financial is doing well?
If not, i guess ya boss had decided to cut cost. A lot of company use this approach.

Secondly, seek labor office to get their advise on compensation.

Thirdly, start looking for new job and/or apply grab driver for ya new source of income.

Fourthly, try ya best to stay calm. Believe u're having mix emotions.
All the best, and hope for the best, and try ya best.

It says can terminate with 30 days notice. That's why boss say terminate immediate, but he compensate the 1 month salary.

ur boss correct, u got ur compensation.

stay strong bro. spend time with family during cny first. when everyone sleeping, you can fire up jobstreet start apply job d.

If got cable, apply those cable one.

if no, apply 10 jobs (no joke), open rice more important than face.

hope to see you back

ayam lost job before, so ayam understand.

make sure you have some saving

A lot of technology related companies are moving out of Malaysia. Bad news for future graduates and job seekers.

No choice but to endure for now.

TS in what industry?

Many businesses are migrating their IT systems to cloud platforms such as IBM Cloud, AWS, and Google Cloud therefore, less business for IT hardware companies.

i don't think they have the right to dismiss you without any show cause letter. your employment contract is your best chance of getting an even compensation if you want to bring this up to the labor office.

Thank you for your kind comment bro. Appreciate this.

Yeah I will definitely start applying during CNY. Thank you for your kind comment. Really appreciate this.

wow, if fire u just like that, u can report already. when they got reason also pointless. they can't claim the reason afterward. u can go to labor department and claim ur guaranty compensation. should be 45 days of wages. 22 days is 1 month so u should be about to get 2 months plus.

anything u can ask me here. coz I'm 99.99% sure u can get that. even they got reason also pointless already, they should give u several warning letter. now they give u nothing and dismiss u, they can't counter claim again.

my boss oso owe suppliers over 1 year and making lose last year. luckily got bonus last month but this year we are prepared to get fired.

mine is a chinaman company so my boss is careful with labour law.

a friend of mine last time western company here when retrenched, no warning given. Morning go to office like usual at 10 am terus all kenak buang. Such a surprised but that'd how Westerners do.

if western companies in msia, they have their own set of rules. no fak given, morning go to office as usual by 10am all requested to leave the office asap.

can't overrule malaysia "unwritten law" though.

retrenchmen law quite strict and usually in favor of the employee.

refer your case to the Jabatan Perhubungan Perusahaan Malaysia.

they will peruse your case and call your employer for a meeting.

your remedy during the meeting is reinstatement. the employer must prove that their company is really not in a good shape economically.

in case of retrenchment, employer are also required to provide sufficient time/notice to you in lieu of compensation.

You only see those closing

There is quite a lot opening here, and as per glob trend, software is expanding

Not rly surprised hardware is closing

If you know digital marketing (SEO and stuffs), i know one company is hiring

if the can fired a marketing manager.. meaning the Co. going to close down soon.

Better act fast. make a complaint with Labour office.

it seems bleak now, 1 year later you'll look back and think how lucky you left earlier than the others who languished there; new doors will open

Err, given your age and salary, I suggest that just let it go. It's very time consuming to file the case to the industrial court. Unless you are age 50 and financially strong, then you can play play with your boss in court.

Just take the 9k to enjoy CNY and find a new job. Good luck.

This post has been edited by uamcy: Jan 20 2020, 09:54 AM

TS,

HR dept very busuk wan....they ask u leave verbally without giving u a letter..... u take their word for it and did not go to work.....

In their official report, they will say did not turn for work for 3 days and force to sack u immediately.....

no matter u enter a or leaving a company, always get a document for it.....all verbal promise is just talk cock...

report them and they will be forced to give u compensation. If u did not break any rules it should be easy win for u.

economy bad

If its retrenchment then they should compensate you based on your years of service.