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post Jan 19 2020, 11:11 PM, updated 6y ago

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Last week I lost my job.
Company requested I leave immediately on the evening itself. Just wondering, is this normal? Any law involved that say I should be compensated?
Worked there for 3 years.
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Jan 19 2020, 11:12 PM)
You'll need a termination cause. Mana surat?

No letter? Sounds like unlawful dismissal.

Any PIP prior to this?

Check with loyar lah.
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No lawyer friend and family.
Also, the reason was "because economy not good need to let go".
I'm not the only one.
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Goh LTD @ Jan 19 2020, 11:14 PM)
By right co need to warn u 3 times and then only fire u. If report buruh your cinaman company gg
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This is seriously my worse ever Chinese New Year.
Let go just one week before CNY.

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post Jan 19 2020, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 19 2020, 11:19 PM)
Any warning letter before this?

If no, and they didn't give any notice, you can bring this matter to the industrial court under lawful dismissal (assuming your salary is above 4k?)

No need lawyer.
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There was no warning letter.
To be honest company wasn't in a good financial situation. Last week boss notified and said this is really the final straw.
Company offered compensation of 1 month salary.
My salary is about RM4.5K. I haven't signed the compensation notice yet.
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jan 19 2020, 11:21 PM)
I feel you brother.

Happened to me few years ago.

My ex-boss chose to relay the news to me and asked me to leave citing bad business as the reason.

and he chose a very good time to tell me , just 1 week before CNY.

that was the worst ever year ,and lowest point financially in my life.
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Yeah man!
I mean I'm not at the lowest financial point in my life - still got some savings.
Fortunately I haven't bought any car or house. If not I'll be in deeper shit now.
But imagine going back hometown and people sure ask how's it going. I also don't know how to answer except the truth :/
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Might and Magic @ Jan 19 2020, 11:23 PM)
Of course cannot la, gather all the colleagues who got fired then report together at jabatan buruh or industrial court.

Even if u earn rm2k or above I think there is another court where u can get legal recourse.

By the way u did sign a work agreement right?
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I'm still Googling options but wanted to try and ask /k first.
If you're referring to a work contract then yes. It says can terminate with 30 days notice. That's why boss say terminate immediate, but he compensate the 1 month salary.

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post Jan 19 2020, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jan 19 2020, 11:26 PM)
Just asking, what is your position and your salary (just provide us a range)?
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Already mentioned above - RM4.5K before tax. No big deal hiding. I'm not like /k level.
Not young. Already 30. But it is what it is.
Position - Marketing Manager. Again, not some high ranking officer.
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jan 19 2020, 11:29 PM)
It was just a temporary setback.

He could have chosen a better time or at least offer me some 3 months notice. It was done very abruptly.

Not that I hold grudges against him, but as a human I think he failed miserably.
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I know right! Hey man, can't imagine we share the same experience although it's not a good one.
Also appreciate all the helpful comments here. Unbelievable for /k.
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 19 2020, 11:32 PM)
well, if you got 1 months pay in lieu of notice, then thats it,
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jan 19 2020, 11:34 PM)
Oh? I didn't see it, scrolled too fast.

Marketing manager?
Strange, normally it is the lower level workers that got fired first.  hmm.gif
Something isn't right here.

Uncle once saw a company terminated a senior employee so the upper management (the boss) can 'insert' his relative to the vacant position. dry.gif 
Do you have any idea who is going to be replacing your position there?
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I am also uncle bro. 30 years not young already.
To answer your question - the company is downsizing from 60 to 30.
I am not being replaced. They're closing down a few departments due to poor financial situation right now. A couple other managers also requested to leave.
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jan 19 2020, 11:34 PM)
He just gave me my last salary and told me that I am no longer needed, that I could stay another month with him.

I left the next day, still in shock , and was angry then. The next day when I went packing, he was so "cold" and looked like a distant stranger.

Humans can change in 1 day, amazing.

I didn't visit my relatives that year. Went to light candles and listen to sermons in the temple instead  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I guess such is life. Well I was disappointed on day 1, angry on day 2. Now just empty on day 3.
But apart from that I'll definitely be figuring out my next options. Don't wanna go jobless.
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post Jan 19 2020, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jan 19 2020, 11:39 PM)
Half?  shocking.gif

May I know what is your ex-company business nature?
Manufacturing (what kind of product?)? Service (sales/technical support)?
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Technology.
Don't want to go into the details but we do hardware.
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jan 19 2020, 11:44 PM)
Sorry for what happen to you.

Firstly, do you know the company financial is doing well?
If not, i guess ya boss had decided to cut cost. A lot of company use this approach.

Secondly, seek labor office to get their advise on compensation.

Thirdly, start looking for new job and/or apply grab driver for ya new source of income.

Fourthly, try ya best to stay calm. Believe u're having mix emotions.
All the best, and hope for the best, and try ya best.
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Thank you for your kind comment bro. Appreciate this.
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 19 2020, 11:45 PM)
It says can terminate with 30 days notice. That's why boss say terminate immediate, but he compensate the 1 month salary.

ur boss correct, u got ur compensation.

stay strong bro. spend time with family during cny first. when everyone sleeping, you can fire up jobstreet start apply job d.

If got cable, apply those cable one.

if no, apply 10 jobs (no joke), open rice more important than face.

hope to see you back
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Yeah I will definitely start applying during CNY. Thank you for your kind comment. Really appreciate this.

 

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