Will probably take a few years in the making, but here's hoping for a cheaper 2020 Z900..!

Modenas to build Kawasaki bikes?

cheaper = inferior quality.
they have been building kawasaki bikes all these while.....

nahhh. 150cc, 200cc, 250cc and 650cc might have better chances.

mekanika hv a better explanation & prediction..

https://www.mekanika.com.my/modenas-akan-pa...di-gurun-kedah/

so we will hv to wait n see.

i think wont be long cos..

the new look z650 etc needs to be marketed soon..

kawasaki cant afford to drag unlike hongleong & boonsiew...

So is this good news or bad news ?
Is kawasaki want to bail out from malaysia like suzuki did?

bail out what?
They are doing well ever since jv with bajaj

actually some bajaj bikes are sold under kawasaki in other countries also.

so now bajaj x modenas x kawasaki what a complicated relationship

maybe we can start seeing "Rouser NS200" at kawasaki showroom?

This post has been edited by skincladalien: Jan 16 2020, 09:02 AM

https://pandulaju.com.my/kawasaki-hentikan-...dengan-modenas/

Wait, why do they need to stop sales, even temporarily?

well i wont trust these journos...
they jz wana create article to bakar abit..
since nothing is verified..

jz hv to wait n see..

I think it mention stop introduce new model until the JV..just existing launched model will be continue sold..correct me in I was wrong..

Should put that as a disclaimer or something in your post with the URL, I think.

From what I've seen, not all the media have reported about this.

Mostly insider news, or people with info. Some bikers got wind of the news, speculated, and cleared their 250R quickly.

It depends how it is viewed. We can look at what happened to Suzuki Malaysia, shifting away from local assembly. For other big brands, AFAIK don't assemble in Malaysia also so K want to switch out from Malaysia.

I may be wrong, feel free to point me out.

You mean they sold their Ninja 250s because of that news?

Yes, speculating that the new bikes will priced lower, and so on so forth.

I see. I'd wait until official news and confirmation before I even try to let go of my 400.

Enjoying its compactness (relative to 250cc and above bikes) and general ease of use so far. I would be very sad to have to let it go because of something like this.

Relationship really complicated

Kawa x Bajaj no more in India 2017, still go in Phillipines

Kawa x Modenas JV back when Kriss is made

Now Modenas got a big unused factory both kawtim for local assembly I guess. Dunno if Bajaj have plan for underbone model with Modenas. Don't see the 3 teaming up since Bajaj pretty tight with KTM.

pandulaju !!

Modenas Ninja 250 ABS !

https://pandulaju.com.my/ini-betul-betul-bu...ar-di-malaysia/

cheaper than R25??

tru modenas can sell cheaper + gain market share??

This post has been edited by basilisk: Feb 21 2020, 11:13 AM

https://www.mekanika.com.my/modenas-ninja-2...bs-enjin-euro4/

yeah versys 250

Definitely can at least match the r25 price now. I'm curious to see if this means they'll be rebadging stuff like the versys 250 or 300.

Also a bit concerned about how spare parts and such will be managed. Now that the bikes become cheaper and more accessible, the demand for parts is going to increase, and if not dealt with, bike thieves may target kawis like they target the smaller KTM Dukes.

This post has been edited by blackbox14: Feb 21 2020, 12:48 PM

https://pandulaju.com.my/ceo-modenas-model-...ja-bajaj-kekal/

according to modenas ceo.. 700cc and below...
he said colab with bajaj will cont as those are 200cc and below.. he forgot dominar 400??

so got chance vulcan s versys650 will hv abs..

but ppl are selling off z650 with just few thousand km usage..

Scared price drop ?

its way before this modenas kawa colab made public..

z650 pre reg til today still got stock it seems...

Serdang Motors right? I was considering their offer when I was gonna buy my 400, but wasn't too keen on the Z650 or Ninja 650.

Anyway, right now the main concern is what's going to happen to the support for pre-existing Kawa owners below 700cc. I'm still going to hold on to my bike because I like it so much, but if Modenas is taking over dealer and servicing for Kawa then I may run into issues...

Why so hard to find spare parts?

You think too much

Better think too much than think too little, IMO. Anticipating issues beforehand saves me from nasty surprises.

Anyway, that reply was 10 months ago. Have had to let go of my bike since then because of financial issues during MCO. Now also haven't recovered yet and haven't replaced it since I am working from home.

Kawasaki should be still ok

wey march 2022 oredi ler...

"...According to Roslan, the Modenas Ninja 250, which was previously unveiled in late 2019, will roll out at the end of Q1 2022...."

https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/mode...end-of-q1-2022/

This post has been edited by basilisk: Mar 9 2022, 01:40 PM

Oh, nice... next time will have Ninja ori vs Ninja modenas difference.

Hmmm, I think he is referring to the inline 2 version. What enthusiasts want is a cut-priced ZX25R...the inline 4 version. I think neighbouring countries already have facelifts or new colour schemes and we only hear crickets here in Malaysia...good job Modenas!

so the 'transition' period ends...

at least giv a date when u gona roll out new kawa bikes..

finally some good news, doubt they gonna release this year, fastest probably q2 2023 i guess...

so lame meh, marketing chief is japanese wor...

Now we wait what model they gonna bring.

brief history of the company tht market/ assemble kawa bikes in msia..

https://kmsb88.wixsite.com/website/kmsb-tri...r-thankyou-note

Thanks for the post. Nice read on the history of Kawa here.

When dealing with GLC... Kudos to Kawasaki Heavy Industries of having soo much of Patience..

Now to see what Modenas will actually do...which I think will take some time as well. I wonder if they will actually launch anything this year

i highly doubt they will launch anything this year, i expect at least q2 2023

Fuh, need another year after transition period baru announce models. Well, there's more time to save for those looking for new kawa bikes I guess

Kawasaki still working with Modenas to come out with Modenas brand Ninja, maybe next year.

1 hour more, lets c got price ornot...

any link to the event ?

finis oredi lor, most important mao tau harga,
so is a bit cheaper lor...
vs r25 rm19,998 vs rm18,500
but r25 got more gaya + usd fork..





This post has been edited by basilisk: Jul 28 2022, 12:35 PM

did they put all their line up? or just that 2 models?

what is the difference(s) between Ninja 250 ABS and w/o ABS ? other than the price

these 2, then versys 650, vulcan, next year more kambing,

difference need to check further got ornot apart frm abs...

That's not much of a price reduction at all... previous Ninja was 23k now only dropped by 2.5k and after sales changed to Modenas, rather disappointing.

tbh better than nothing

ya waiting for Z650

Looking to buy a 250cc for my starter bike probably year end. Saving some money for cash flow and fixes if needed.

But in you guys' opinion, would you rather buy a new modenas 250 or a used kawasaki 250?
New starts at 19k, used can be found at around 9-14k.

Looks wise, older model win for me. New kawasaki/modenas looks bulky (for the ninja)
I think spec wise they're pretty much same right? Apart from the ABS.
Plus the modenas logos on the fuel tank.. kinda meh.

If DRB-HICOM manages to not fuck up and I end up not taking B full I would actually consider buying a Modenas rebadge instead. ABS saves lives.

This post has been edited by iambryan1234: Jul 29 2022, 01:22 AM

New bikes these days need to improve paint quality.
If they tell me, old paint is grade A and new paint is AAA, I'm for it.

ABS model is 19.5k - 20.5k excluding roadtax and insurance. Add in those 2 will be around 21k-22k+?
so a huge difference though between used and a new bike. Maybe 10k or more.
Sure ABS saves lives but its still a 250cc, if planning for a change in the future, to me seems like not worth that money to pay that extra 10k.

a B2 still able to ride a 250cc isn't it?

This post has been edited by technosakai: Jul 29 2022, 09:17 AM

Yup, B2 is still status quo. No change

if planning for a change, you wont start at a 250cc. unless you are dead set not to do your B Full and ride bigger bikes in the near future.


Chinese 650cc bikes are around 30k now. not that much more than the 250.

The real irony is, the z250 naked is 5k more expensive than the Dominar 400. Despite both under Modenas. yes the Z is a twin and arguably with a better reliability record, but that's the premium you'd pay to stay in B2.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Jul 29 2022, 01:49 PM

eh? Did you tag the wrong person..?
I got a B Full though.. and I do think of changing, hence talked about getting old ninja at cheaper price.
I'm also looking at z650. Used to using for lessons at driving school.
But plan to learn how to ride first by using a Ninja 250 / z250.

If got b full might and you plan to upgrade, better off just skip 250 and straight to 650.. Yes it's more powerful than 250, but the power band is rather forgiving.. Only worries is the weight.. I have never rode big bikes before and also more than 10years never ride bike.. Straight got myself an er6 as my first big bike..

Nope don't think I tagged the wrong person.

If you got a full B, don't bother with a 250. Just get a used bike of a bigger capacity for the price as a learner bike.

Why though? What's the reason?
Weight is 1 thing. I think a 650 is too heavy for me to handle. Haven't even ridden a bike in traffic before and straight go for a 650. I cannot even lane split later.

Thought of getting a 250 first, learn the skills needed to handle a bike on the road before upgrading to a bigger cc.
Been driving for 10 years, so I know how to "read" the road, but a car and bike is different.

Weight means it's heavy lor, haha.. Btw, different ppl different thinking la.. If you really not confident in handling the weight then just proceed with what you're comfortable with.. Anyway, can consider used ones since you just want it as stepping stone.. I bought mine used too, after 3years ownership clocking 60k km, I still manage to sell it back slightly higher than my buying price.. But I never stingy on the maintenance and accessories la, hence can sell at better price..

if this is the path u wanna take, buy the cheapest used 250cc u can buy....dont waste ur money on brand new... ull get bored quickly and this can minimize ur losses down the road. u might even be able to sell the bike for the same price u bought provided u got the right buyer. buying brand new u can lose roughly 7-10k the moment the bike leaves the shop.


correct...bike and car is different... so throw wat u think u know how to read as a driver and learn again from scratch as a rider.

By right 250cc and above you need a B.

But for this you can ride with a B2.
Because it's 249cc. Not 250cc.

If it's a stepping stone don't buy a new bike.

But you will get very quickly bored of the 250.


Weight is just something you will get used to after a few months of riding. Actually, a bigger, heavier engined bike might even be easier to ride as a greater proportion of the weight is centred lower on the bike. As mentioned before, the riding schools heavy z650 is much much easier to handle than my lighter but top heavy dominar 400 for tight maneuvers.

yeah after all, everything takes time to get used to.
imagine riding a z650 or whatever that's bigger than a 250, yet can't split lane and got a queue of kapchais behind you. To me that is quite embarrassing. The 'coolness' of riding a big bike is straight out the window.


Yeap, that is my plan since the day I decided that I want a bike. Of course cheap and yet still less things to fix.
no point getting a cheap one only to find out got a bunch of things that I need to replace.
anyway, any suggestions on where to get a used bike? I see some ads on mudah, the bike condition seems nice, low mileage (20+k)
do shops usually allow test ride for used bikes? or just a see and pay thing?

maybe I'll get bored of it, maybe i don't. I don't think so I'm aiming for high speed. Probably more towards just the feel that you get when you a ride bike. The air blowing onto your body and without the cage of a car.
but that might change in the future..

mudah is good and FB groups would be a good place to start... join the FB group of the bike ur looking to buy n theres usually ppl advertising to sell off their bikes.

shops usually no test rides.

For test ride if your in Klang Valley.. Selangor TM motoworld or Puncak Alam Motoworld.. KL Motosikal Mok.. These 3 shops I know can test ride used bike and also very friendly boss.. I've dealt with them.. Most important they never mess around with "fake" mileage, coz some shops you look around you will noticed all bikes low mileage even though very old.. definitely very fishy.. These three shops sometimes will got bikes 100k+ km and they sell as it is..

I never went to Puncak Alam Motorworld before despite it being quite near to my place. Lol. But after they're nominated as one of the authorized service partner it makes me feel more relieved after the EMOS takeover of Kawi brands.

TM and Puncak are brother's company.. You can look for Jordan in Puncak.. They never stingy on letting customer test.. My 1st er6 was recommended by him.. I was actually eyeing z250 that time, and after some chat, he says er6 suits my needs more.. So he push out the z250 and er6n and let me test both.. When I confirm er6n, he even push another er6f for me to test which ones I like.. 2 of my friends who accompany me go on 2 occasion like bikes but have clearly said not intending to buy yet, still he push out bikes for them to test.. Thumbs up and highly recommended for these kinda service these days..

Usually. But shops also know they won't sell used bikes if not allowed to test.

I think mostly if they think you are serious or not or just out for joyride.

I road tested my dominar TWICE before buying. First time no helmet no licence also. Hahaha. 2nd time no license still but at least I brought a helmet.

Usually I get offered to test ride but I usually dont unless I am already certain to buy.

thanks for the recommendation

latest kawa cbu model price

Ninja 1000SX: RM71,400
Versys 1000SE: RM81,900
Z900RS: RM63,800
Ninja ZX-10R: RM112,600

z900rs in 2018 without gst = 64,056.60



z900 should be ckd and hopefully price can be lower.

the vulcan s should look like this ler... haiya..

Anybody been to Kawasaki All Star in S15 Shah Alam? 4S Kawa by Chear Motors.

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Hello there, just a little sharing from my own experience. I started riding after more than 20 years of driving and decided to get a 250 cc (around 21 HP bike). Top speed using GPS is around 120 kph but normally comfortable riding is around 90 kph. Like you, I didn't think I needed the speed and I was mostly riding in small towns and trunk roads. It is until I visited the big cities like JB or KL that I started feeling intimidated. Slow bike in a 6 lane highway especially when you come to intersections on highways can be quite a challenge and sometimes you really need the speed (say a lorry driving at 90-110 kph on a highway). That's when you'll feel torn... overtake it and you have to maintain almost max speed of what your bike can do. Don't overtake it, you stay behind and get smoked to death.

For used bike, depends if you want a twist and go bike (to learn) or you want a full clutched bike. If twist and go, consider scooters (Modenas Elegan 250). If you want a clutched bike, can consider 2nd hand Honda (CB250R) or Yamaha (MT25). If you don't mind some DIY (and some self repair sometimes) but want to ride in style, then you can go for bikes like GPX250 (cafe racer), QJ SRV250 (cruiser), Royal Alloy TG250 (scooter), Italjet Bucaneer 250i (cafe racer) and so on.

Technically, i have bought my Z650 after using FZ150i and there was no issues in lane filtering as my work was in Jalan Ampang. For sure I have not caused any jam for bikes while riding in KL and trust u would know how terrible the jam is in Jalan Ampang and Tun Razak. The bike is small and doesn't feel heavy compared to ER6. I would say it is comparable to a 250 as the size doesnt do a justice. if the sticker is peeled off, there is no way of telling if it is a Z650 or 250cc apart from the double disc and tire size.

EMOS seems to be stepping up in terms of bringing back Kawasaki into the Malaysian market. Started with the 250 and slowly more and more models are making their comeback.

Let the good times roll!

wow...good news

https://www.facebook.com/100086616738275/po...mibextid=qC1gEa

at 43.9k used z900 still wana sell at 38-36 k ar??

gsx8s can get 43k??

This post has been edited by basilisk: Jun 3 2023, 02:51 PM

with used still sell at 38-36k then better i will go for new at 43.9k.
new z900 otr price is 47k

UiTM?

in 2017 i went to kawa test ride shah alam stadium there.
car park test ride.. no syiok.

tis uitm i think they let u ride in car park?
dono leh..

Don't think so. Suzuki thinks the 8S will be closer to 50k. Will know this weekend.

i saw the dealer reply...

hard to keep the price down...

z900se vs 8s.., gsxs750 , trident, cb650 , hornet...

z650 abs also coming.. many competition

if they ckd the z650rs would be nice,

I saw a bunch of Kawa's being transported into UiTM Shah Alam today...

Going to check it out this Saturday...

agree.. mid range classic needs a comeback.
honda too expensive

they bring you ride inside the UITM campus, around 3 to 5km ride

My wife who's taking a break before she starts her new job next month went. Now she wants to trade in her 700 CL-X for a Z900RS.

Oh lord, what have I done.... I have created a monster....



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What other bikes they have to test? Can see a Vulcan at the back. And a Z650/Z250 as well?

Echoing others queries, how was it? What models were offered? When does it start i.e. is it 9 am?

My wife says the organizer is Chear Motor. On the day she went got Dominar 250, Vulcan 650, Versys 1000, Z900 & Z900RS.