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 Modenas to build Kawasaki bikes?, Cheaper Z900 maybe? Fingers crossed.

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technosakai
post Jul 28 2022, 10:34 PM

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Looking to buy a 250cc for my starter bike probably year end. Saving some money for cash flow and fixes if needed.

But in you guys' opinion, would you rather buy a new modenas 250 or a used kawasaki 250?
New starts at 19k, used can be found at around 9-14k.

Looks wise, older model win for me. New kawasaki/modenas looks bulky (for the ninja)
I think spec wise they're pretty much same right? Apart from the ABS.
Plus the modenas logos on the fuel tank.. kinda meh.
technosakai
post Jul 29 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(iambryan1234 @ Jul 29 2022, 01:20 AM)
If DRB-HICOM manages to not fuck upĀ  and I end up not taking B full I would actually consider buying a Modenas rebadge instead. ABS saves lives.
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ABS model is 19.5k - 20.5k excluding roadtax and insurance. Add in those 2 will be around 21k-22k+?
so a huge difference though between used and a new bike. Maybe 10k or more.
Sure ABS saves lives but its still a 250cc, if planning for a change in the future, to me seems like not worth that money to pay that extra 10k.

a B2 still able to ride a 250cc isn't it?

This post has been edited by technosakai: Jul 29 2022, 09:17 AM
technosakai
post Jul 29 2022, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 29 2022, 01:48 PM)
if planning for a change, you wont start at a 250cc. unless you are dead set not to do your B Full and ride bigger bikes in the near future.
Chinese 650cc bikes are around 30k now. not that much more than the 250.

The real irony is, the z250 naked is 5k more expensive than the Dominar 400.  Despite both under Modenas. yes the Z is a twin and arguably with a better reliability record, but that's the premium you'd pay to stay in B2.
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eh? Did you tag the wrong person..?
I got a B Full though.. and I do think of changing, hence talked about getting old ninja at cheaper price.
I'm also looking at z650. Used to using for lessons at driving school.
But plan to learn how to ride first by using a Ninja 250 / z250.

technosakai
post Jul 29 2022, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jul 29 2022, 06:13 PM)
If got b full might and you plan to upgrade, better off just skip 250 and straight to 650.. Yes it's more powerful than 250, but the power band is rather forgiving.. Only worries is the weight.. I have never rode big bikes before and also more than 10years never ride bike.. Straight got myself an er6 as my first big bike..
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 29 2022, 07:34 PM)
Nope don't think I tagged the wrong person.

If you got a full B, don't bother with a 250. Just get a used bike of a bigger capacity for the price as a learner bike.
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Why though? What's the reason?
Weight is 1 thing. I think a 650 is too heavy for me to handle. Haven't even ridden a bike in traffic before and straight go for a 650. I cannot even lane split later.

Thought of getting a 250 first, learn the skills needed to handle a bike on the road before upgrading to a bigger cc.
Been driving for 10 years, so I know how to "read" the road, but a car and bike is different.
technosakai
post Jul 30 2022, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jul 29 2022, 09:49 PM)
Weight means it's heavy lor, haha.. Btw, different ppl different thinking la.. If you really not confident in handling the weight then just proceed with what you're comfortable with.. Anyway, can consider used ones since you just want it as stepping stone.. I bought mine used too, after 3years ownership clocking 60k km, I still manage to sell it back slightly higher than my buying price.. But I never stingy on the maintenance and accessories la, hence can sell at better price..
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yeah after all, everything takes time to get used to.
imagine riding a z650 or whatever that's bigger than a 250, yet can't split lane and got a queue of kapchais behind you. To me that is quite embarrassing. The 'coolness' of riding a big bike is straight out the window.


QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 30 2022, 12:39 AM)
if this is the path u wanna take, buy the cheapest used 250cc u can buy....dont waste ur money on brand new... ull get bored quickly and this can minimize ur losses down the road. u might even be able to sell the bike for the same price u bought provided u got the right buyer. buying brand new u can lose roughly 7-10k the moment the bike leaves the shop.
correct...bike and car is different... so throw wat u think u know how to read as a driver and learn again from scratch as a rider.
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Yeap, that is my plan since the day I decided that I want a bike. Of course cheap and yet still less things to fix.
no point getting a cheap one only to find out got a bunch of things that I need to replace.
anyway, any suggestions on where to get a used bike? I see some ads on mudah, the bike condition seems nice, low mileage (20+k)
do shops usually allow test ride for used bikes? or just a see and pay thing?

QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 30 2022, 10:59 AM)
If it's a stepping stone don't buy a new bike.

But you will get very quickly bored of the 250.
Weight is just something you will get used to after a few months of riding. Actually, a bigger, heavier engined bike might even be easier to ride as a greater proportion of the weight is centred lower on the bike. As mentioned before, the riding schools heavy z650 is much much easier to handle than my lighter but top heavy dominar 400 for tight maneuvers.
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maybe I'll get bored of it, maybe i don't. I don't think so I'm aiming for high speed. Probably more towards just the feel that you get when you a ride bike. The air blowing onto your body and without the cage of a car.
but that might change in the future..


 

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