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Discussion FAM Discussion thread., Tengku Abdullah quits, who's next ?

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post Jul 17 2007, 01:30 PM

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Menurut Menteri Besar Selangor itu, apa yang penting sekarang ialah untuk meningkatkan kualiti bola sepak kerana prestasi pasukan Malaysia memang amat memalukan.

Selain itu kata Mohamad Khir, sistem yang dijalankan oleh FAM sekarang perlu diubah kerana dia melihat sistem yang dianjurkan tidak memberi kesan.

Sebagai contoh, katanya, cara FAM mengambil pemain-pemain negeri untuk mewakili negara adalah tidak betul.

]Mohamad Khir berpendapat, FAM sepatutnya perlu ada kumpulan pemain khas dan ia boleh disewakan atau pun dipinjamkan ke negeri-negeri.

''Katalah FAM ada 30 hingga 40 pemain yang dilatih dan bila negeri-negeri contohnya Selangor nak ambil, kita kena bincang antaranya berapa kos untuk mengambil pemain itu.

''Tetapi apa yang berlaku sekarang adalah sebaliknya. Pemain yang dilatih oleh negeri diambil oleh skuad kebangsaan.

''Jadi ini yang menyebabkan kualiti bola sepak kita semakin menurun dan pada pendapat saya cara ini tak boleh diteruskan," katanya kepada pemberita selepas menghadiri Mesyuarat Dewan Undangan Negeri Selangor di sini, semalam.

Tambahnya lagi, skuad negara yang terlalu bergantung kepada pemain import juga menjadi antara sebab kemerosotan bola sepak negara.

Katanya, faktor itu boleh menyebabkan pemain-pemain tempatan kurang keyakinan diri.

''Kalau main di padang dia nak tengok orang luar, yang jaringkan gol pun kebanyakannya pemain luar, lepas itu yang jadi pertahanan pun orang luar.

''Ini menyebabkan pemain kita hilang kepercayaan diri," tegasnya.


muahahahahahahahahaaa......

this Toyo really retard ...

whole world also form the national team from the clubs ... he must be doesn't watch football 1...

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Sebagai contoh, katanya, cara FAM mengambil pemain-pemain negeri untuk mewakili negara adalah tidak betul.

]Mohamad Khir berpendapat, FAM sepatutnya perlu ada kumpulan pemain khas dan ia boleh disewakan atau pun dipinjamkan ke negeri-negeri.

''Katalah FAM ada 30 hingga 40 pemain yang dilatih dan bila negeri-negeri contohnya Selangor nak ambil, kita kena bincang antaranya berapa kos untuk mengambil pemain itu.
i curious what type of training this 40 players going to undergo ...

berlatih in morning, then evening go mamak stall?

then once a month go europe friendly match with the clubs there? all players and staffs treat it as a trip ...

stupid !!!!

the theory of malaysian stay on the trees are true !!!


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post Jul 17 2007, 01:30 PM

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My opinion is...no more royalties or politicians for any of the top post..Just imagine u n ur friends form a club and ur dad as the president..sure x jalan..u'll surely think 3-4 times before voicing anything without offending your president a.k.a dad. Do we have some sort of national player rating?..rating system that monitor every single player that is in our league?..
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Great this guy finally show his coward attitude...
Good for him to blah...jauh jauh...
Restrict the visit of Chelsea and Man U just to make us support and watch Malaysian Team...
Want us to watch what? See how Malaysia concede 5 goal in every match?
Funny...
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:12 PM

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Sultan Of Pahang stay as FAM head.
and internal politics will going on and on.....
should let those ex-footballers guys in charge instead.
they at least know what to do!
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:17 PM

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So now he's suggesting that FAM become sports agents and lease their players out to clubs?
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 17 2007, 02:17 PM)
So now he's suggesting that FAM become sports agents and lease their players out to clubs?
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The finger pointing begins....

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Tambahnya lagi, skuad negara yang terlalu bergantung kepada pemain import juga menjadi antara sebab kemerosotan bola sepak negara.


When did our squad negara bergantung kepada pemain import? i wonder if he is misquoted or this Toyo fler is really a BAHALUL...
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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Jul 17 2007, 02:21 PM)
The finger pointing begins....
When did our squad negara bergantung kepada pemain import? i wonder if he is misquoted or this Toyo fler is really a BAHALUL...
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Maybe he was referring to the league. Funnily enough, we were doing much better when we were semi-professional and had 3 foreigners in each team. Then we decided to ban foreigners completely but look where we are now. The standard of football has declined so badly, it's impossible that names like Tony Cottee, Chris Kiwomya and David Roecastle will ever be linked with a move to a Malaysian club. It's simple really. Bring in good foreign players and the quality of the league increases. When that happens, the local players learn more and have to improve as well.
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:26 PM

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our national squad I'll not bash until after wednesday, this toyo bugger is however fair game...
Today's comments rivals the one he made (if memory fails me not) about Selangor being the ONLY FULLY DEVELOPED state in Malaysia! Oh, was he responsible for the we wre better than Singapore gem too?

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QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jul 16 2007, 11:56 PM)
10 years?

i think in 10 years time we also can't even be the number 1 in SEA doh.gif
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aiyor, the national team is not even first on the country, there are many more talented people out there, who can easily defeat them, but these people are smart enough not to be involved in national football - because there is no hope and no future
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After all these hoohahss died down, it's all going back to square one. doh.gif Mark my word.
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 17 2007, 02:17 PM)
So now he's suggesting that FAM become sports agents and lease their players out to clubs?
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oh no not leasing player... as long as there is $$$ changing hand in these business, there will be chances of corruption.

now... sorry but the MB of Selangor is the chairman of FAS juz because he is the MB of d state. sorry to say this but i think he should stick to running the state government (which is not exactly in pristine state either....). Leave the running of sport to those who know the sport.

Making comment like this is a favourite pass time of Malaysian. When something goes wrong, everyone will have a say how thing should have been done. Even Tengku was saying the coach was wrong with player selection against China.

for the next few days, we'll most likely be reading funny comment about why out football is in dire state now and what would have been done from all kind of YAB lar, datuk lar etc.
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Jul 17 2007, 02:32 PM)
After all these hoohahss died down, it's all going back to square one. doh.gif  Mark my word.
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Yup i agreed with u...i also hav the same tot... absolutely correct!!! all tidak apa attitude... no passion no fighting spirit... i think school players have better passion and fighting spirit than the national squad!!! all the players dun wun to put 100% and scared injured that will affect their league games... too much power in the clubs as well

Like England n others western countries, they fight to get a place to play for national team... our country? terbalik wun... play 100% for clubs, 10% for country... somemore homeground kena wallop 5-0... if ppl attack our country, and our defence like them...then we in deep sh*t lor.... doh.gif
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Dear Malaysians, with the poor results recently, do you agree with my stand that our coach should be sacked immediately? I'm sorry to say that we never had any good results since he has taken in charge, so do the head of FAM who I consider has thousand of better candidates ahead of him who have more knowledge on football management to take the hot seat. Hot seats like this seems to be fitted in the favor of one's descent than caliber. There has been a lot of anger around but no one seems to call for the resignation of Norizan Bakar. He's the one who picks the players and arranges the tactics. But pathetically, they failed hence we need new blood. A new coach with higher expertise is needed, be it a local coach or a foreign one. Malaysia team has plunged 70+ places in the ranking in 10 yrs.
FAM, please wake up shakehead.gif

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post Jul 17 2007, 05:26 PM

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Come on, give Toyo a chance. He turned Selangor into a developed state, remember? rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 17 2007, 05:28 PM

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Im pretty damn sure Norizan will resign himself after the game against Iran.
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All I want to say is that Norizan introduced a different style of football - attacking football. I rather watch Malaysia lost 5-1 attacking than Malaysia losing 1-0 defending for 90 mins.
Having said that, Norizan should know the players' capabilities... not every team can attack AND defend at the same time. Apparently we can't.

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post Jul 17 2007, 05:36 PM

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doh.gif too many new thread this week,this "Norizan Bakar should step down" should discuss in Malaysia National Team Thread or AFC Asian Cup thread doh.gif
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post Jul 17 2007, 05:36 PM

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How many threads do we actually need? Can't we have everything in the same thread? Geez.
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post Jul 17 2007, 05:46 PM

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For me, I think not juz Norizan Bakar should step down, but the player n the coach oso nid 2 step downlah...
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post Jul 17 2007, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 17 2007, 02:26 PM)
Maybe he was referring to the league. Funnily enough, we were doing much better when we were semi-professional and had 3 foreigners in each team. Then we decided to ban foreigners completely but look where we are now. The standard of football has declined so badly, it's impossible that names like Tony Cottee, Chris Kiwomya and David Roecastle will ever be linked with a move to a Malaysian club. It's simple really. Bring in good foreign players and the quality of the league increases. When that happens, the local players learn more and have to improve as well.
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I think we were doing much better that time when it was just Malaysia Cup! With Brunei and Singapore for company. Imagine the state teams like Selangor and Pahang can actually dent a Singapore side back then powered by Suriamurthi, Fandi Ahmad, Quah Kim Song!

Today... nuff said...

This is my most blunt analysis:

Back in those days, we have footballers who are not full timers. They are employees of Penang Port, TNB, Maybank etc... they got a job and they started playing football. Means? They are literate and have some brains.

Today, just because he was plucked from a kampung and can kick a ball, we elevate him to the status of a genius/ prodigy and companies offer him a job so that he can play football for them. I guess genius and prodigy is too big a word to describe these sub standard footballers. Means? They may not have brains for the game.

The key words here are: You can take them out of the kampung but you cant expect them to take the kampung out of themselves.


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