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GrumpyNooby
post Aug 5 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Aug 5 2020, 04:32 PM)
every week 1k not enuf, need 100k in when rise 100k out when drop only can feel the shiok
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100k is not enough to be impactful.
RM 1 mil sounds much better.
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post Aug 5 2020, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Aug 5 2020, 09:28 PM)
still no sign of dropping, today NAV might be surge up again
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Why so?
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post Aug 6 2020, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 09:37 AM)
i thought is a fix income fund?
again i am not sure what is the different between Fix Income / Bond
The only bond i have is P Bond - the old ppl UT -  50% of all my total investment is in this PBOND
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Fixed income fund is any financial instrument that can generate steady income stream; it could be as low risk as money market fund to higher risk of dividend focus equity fund.

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Fixed income funds generally pay a return on a fixed schedule, though the amount of the payments can vary. Investors may consider this type of fund for their potential for income generation and capital preservation.


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post Aug 6 2020, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 09:34 AM)
IPF 1.0955 to 1.0976 (+21 points)

BTW I saw from history income distribution coming by September
hope they distribute more more more then we can buy lower price

question - if income distribution on 31-July it take how many days to get it reinvested?
recently on some of my UT i get income distribution but the time to have it reinvested vary from UT to UT
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Already said many times, if you stay invested, the distribution won't impact much.
It doesn't really works like stocks.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/art...s-23-June-2017-
https://www.interpac-asset.com.my/understan...usts-dividends/

Declaring distribution and/or units split in unit trust creates a fake impression that things are going to cheap which is not true at all.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/art...4-October-2014-

How fast additional units will be credited to your fund account depends on where you bought your fund from?
If you buy directly from fund house, it should be the next working day.
But if you buy from 3rd party such as FSM or eUT, it could be as slow as up to 2 weeks.

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post Aug 7 2020, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 11:52 PM)
thanks for the advice, then i shall just focus on IPF
so dont care about SIPF anymore
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Bear in mind that IPF and SIPF are not in the same bond market.

SIPF is mainly into sukuk market whereby the sukuk issuer needs to comply to Shariah requirement too.
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post Aug 7 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 7 2020, 09:25 AM)
today morning morning i nothing to do just give opus a call
talk to one of their client portfolio manager and below is something to share:

1. wholesale fund starting investment is RM50k
2. top up is every 10k
3. Can use opus touch to top up
4. need to  sign some forms
5. initial investment can be done via bank transfer or issue cheque because FPX limit 30k saja
6. Opus Fixed Income Fund - only avail for their corporate clients and some private banking customer (fund size > 1 billion)
7. they recommend to buy Opus Dynamic Income Fund - fund size over 600M
8. redemption also same T+1

DIF - they have GAMING (tak halal tak apa tapi ini judi which i cannot tolerate)
JUDI <- i cannot agree to this
ARAK <- i cannot agree to this
ROKOK <- i cannot agree to this
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So this snapshot is referring to which wholesale fund?
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post Aug 7 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 7 2020, 11:23 AM)
Agree everyone has their own prinsip
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If you want to adhere to that principles, only aim for Shariah compliant funds.
With that, you can have piece of mind.

Another thing is that FFS is updated in monthly basis, for a particular conventional fund, it didn't not invest into those sectors but that doesn't mean that the fund won't invest into it in upcoming months.
And also FFS is a historical data.

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post Aug 7 2020, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 7 2020, 09:30 PM)
i have a stupid question related to the NAV
today is 1.0002 tomorrow can be 1.0003
so what determines the up or down of the NAV?

like stock market it is about buyer and seller
but for UT there is no real buyer / seller especially for those Bond fund
the bond fund they buy into GG Bond or AAA bonds etc etc
so what determines the value of NAV?
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Valuation of the assets under holdings.

If you buy stocks and once order matches, you will acquire certain number of units.
It'll be units under holdings until you dispose (sell) it.
When it is under your holdings, your valuation will not be static as it is subject to trading by other interested parties (not you) for it.
Here's the concept of paper return comes (either paper gain or paper loss).

Same goes to the unit trust.
Fund NAV movement is due to valuation of the assets under holdings due to above analogy.
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post Aug 7 2020, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 7 2020, 09:39 PM)
here the asset is GG Bonds which will also go up and down or they already lockdown?
or they recevie more investment they will go to bond retail market to buy more bonds with their funds?
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Bond got two elements; bond price and bond yield.

If you hold the bond till maturity date, you'll receive coupon payment at rated yield.

If you wish not to hold the bond that long, you can dispose at the bid/ask price in the bond market by other interest parties.

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Special Considerations
To an individual bond investor, the coupon payment is the source of profit.

To the bond trader, there is the potential gain or loss generated by variations in the bond's market price. The yield to maturity calculation incorporates the potential gains or losses generated by those market price changes.

If an investor purchases a bond at par or face value, the yield to maturity is equal to its coupon rate. If the investor purchases the bond at a discount, its yield to maturity will be higher than its coupon rate. A bond purchased at a premium will have a yield to maturity that is lower than its coupon rate.

YTM represents the average return of the bond over its remaining lifetime. Calculations apply a single discount rate to future payments, creating a present value that will be about equivalent to the bond's price.

In this way, the time until maturity, the bond's coupon rate, current price, and the difference between price and face value all are considered.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/02...coupon-rate.asp


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post Aug 9 2020, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(anwa @ Aug 9 2020, 06:10 AM)
Thanks. Any advantage using opus touch in terms of faster "execution" e.g. Buying or selling?
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In term of selling, you can get your proceed in the bank within next working day.
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post Aug 10 2020, 07:55 AM

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So is the sign to sell is approaching?
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post Aug 10 2020, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 10 2020, 08:19 AM)
Hari ini turun or naik?
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Both IPF dropped 0.0006 and SIPF dropped 0.0003 for last Friday NAV.
So start to sell?

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post Aug 10 2020, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Aug 10 2020, 09:47 AM)
seems like u still dunno how Opus work
it's ok, u can choose stay or buy more, i already redeem all but left 1k units inside
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Oracle has spoken!
Guys, it's time to make the move!
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post Aug 10 2020, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 10 2020, 10:15 AM)
nvm let it drop today
tomorrow go up we buy lo
i just scare ding dong ding dong then headache
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Headache is the least of the problem.
Heartache or heart attack is the biggest threat for a roller coaster ride in equity market.
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post Aug 11 2020, 09:03 AM

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IPF: 1.0973 -> 1.0932
SIPF: 1.0507 -> 1.0484

Wondering what happened yesterday? hmm.gif
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post Aug 11 2020, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 11 2020, 09:35 PM)
If tomorrow go up then I will lose out compare to those holding
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That's why TS will not re-enter so soon.
He said he'll park his money in HLB Pay & Save and look for another entry point.
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post Aug 12 2020, 08:59 AM

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IPF up 0.0025
SIPF up 0.0001
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post Aug 12 2020, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 12 2020, 09:01 AM)
Wasted
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I have no regrets as I need money to pump to other investments.
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post Aug 12 2020, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 12 2020, 09:04 AM)
Din know you withdraw as well
I thought you are the type that leave it there and let the fund manager do their job
So today pump money back in or wait tomorrow?
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I have stated earlier that Opus is just parking place.
Money pump into SAMY or pay bills.
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post Aug 12 2020, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 12 2020, 10:02 AM)
thanks for the advice
i will masuk  balik RM20k that i just withdraw yesterday
i just use 20k to invest in opus dare not go big on it yet
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If you're going in back in such a short period, you shouldn't have even sell it. rclxub.gif

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