IT Support earn so much? I guess only applicable to those capable of working for bigger MNC companies.
High-paying jobs for early 20s through mid 30s, feeling bad about your career choice?
High-paying jobs for early 20s through mid 30s, feeling bad about your career choice?
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Dec 27 2019, 12:18 PM
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IT Support earn so much? I guess only applicable to those capable of working for bigger MNC companies.
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Dec 27 2019, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 11:53 AM) It goes without saying that my clients would be doing well or at least above average for themselves if they approach me for mortgage and asb financing applications There are no discrepancies, just differences. There are reasons for that. For my insurance and UT businesses, I meet them from the above two "door openers" Suffice to say this is not a random selection at all. Far from it, as I have mentioned earlier in my post. Why am I doing this? Perhaps to help people realize the discrepancies of the pay scale. They may be of the same age, they may be working in the same lines, industries, or even the same company; yet there is a gap between theirs and others I particularly enjoy comparing people's pay between their age. My observation: 1. Within the same industries and job scope, differences in pay can be put down to job-competency 2. Between different industries but of the same age, differences in pay can be denoted to differences in demand for that skill set 1. You are basing that everyone is the same hence should be paid the same. 2. You don't take into account that each company costed differently, hence the difference in pay. i.e. O&G companies may pay more simply because they can afford it vs normal thin-margin trading company. 3. Some company may pay out more, some may reserve more for future investment, all have different strategies in their management. |
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Dec 27 2019, 12:23 PM
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Actually RM20K in USD is just 5K. My niece, fresh grad in the US, her first job already getting that much. Just to show how backward we are compared to global incomes.
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Dec 27 2019, 12:24 PM
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Lowyat salary sharing in Job & Career > all. 28 years old RM30k. If 40, is some director getting RM50k /month.
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Dec 27 2019, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 05:19 AM) It is not illegal to discuss your income with your peers. Only the employers have something to lose when the employees discuss their pay and any discrepancies. There have been plenty of examples where employers had to pay fair wages to their employees who found that were short-changed This ^^I really hope Malaysians who continuously complain about low-pay would fight for their rights. You should not be afraid of your employees. ----- Although I'd like to point out that discussing your income privately between peers might open yourself up to certain discrimination; e.g., if that person you've shared with could end-up been loose lip about your income and thus causing others (with lower income) might be envious of you; thus disrupting the entire relationship between working peers. That is one scenario; but overall, if personal income are to be shared constructively, it will be an added advantage for the employee to negotiate for a better salary (should they want to remain and progress further in the same company). |
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Dec 27 2019, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Dec 27 2019, 12:14 PM) I really think it is cute when they talk about everyone earning 20k/m. I guess people who yearn for what they cannot/unlikely to have would end up making jokes about itSeriously though, spending time online is really addictive (hey isn't that the forum's tagline?), but like any other entertainment, it has very little return |
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Dec 27 2019, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 05:19 AM) It is not illegal to discuss your income with your peers. Only the employers have something to lose when the employees discuss their pay and any discrepancies. There have been plenty of examples where employers had to pay fair wages to their employees who found that were short-changed So, the perception to not share your salary & bonus and shits are all tipu all these while?I really hope Malaysians who continuously complain about low-pay would fight for their rights. You should not be afraid of your employees. |
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Dec 27 2019, 12:42 PM
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fuck wei... i am already 30, but only started to get rm10k this year
FML! I should go 14th floor liao... sigh... |
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Dec 27 2019, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 12:31 PM) I really think it is cute when they talk about everyone earning 20k/m. I guess people who yearn for what they cannot/unlikely to have would end up making jokes about it An aside, I disagree that spending time on online forums can have very little return. I make a living working remotely and the one thing all my clients have in common is they were introduced by someone I met online. What matters is the mindset in which you engage in the activity.Seriously though, spending time online is really addictive (hey isn't that the forum's tagline?), but like any other entertainment, it has very little return I do agree though that the signal to noise ratio is very low. |
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Dec 27 2019, 12:49 PM
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Dec 27 2019, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 12:31 PM) I really think it is cute when they talk about everyone earning 20k/m. I guess people who yearn for what they cannot/unlikely to have would end up making jokes about it well i guess the community makes it possible, then again if people here earn 20k, theres a chance the joke would be a bigger amount. Wealth is always relative.Seriously though, spending time online is really addictive (hey isn't that the forum's tagline?), but like any other entertainment, it has very little return Personally i dont think its wrong to spend time online, but life has its scarifies and not all productive hobbies produce income. Its more like, if we want to chill out the odds of high wages would be very low. Its the same in the opposite direction, if you want to have high wages the odds of time with family and friends or side hobbies diminish. its very rare, ive seen someone that has both, the mythical worklife balance and i often attribute it to luck. The topic gets waaaaaay more complex tho, we are simplifying it a bit, like one figure to ponder upon. if Intelligence is a physical attribute, so at any point in time, you have 50% of the population being dumber than the rest. Often less intelligent folks make more career mistakes, cant keep up with the race and vice versa. So at all points in time, you have 50% of the population under performing and they cannot perform even if they wanted to (hence why we celebrate guys who work hard and succeed against the odds). Then out of the low 50%, what of the last 10%? what do we do with them and which intelligence group we belong to? Stuff that keeps me up at night really |
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Dec 27 2019, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 27 2019, 12:01 PM) Was a bank sales exec for almost 6 years and get to see thousands of payslip application from many walks of life. maybe ktard referring to disposal income. What ts review here is sport on pretty similar to what i encounter as well. IT, despite many ketard IT saying they are paid less, is making above aberage figure compared to other industries. The top 2 in my list based on sampling application is the same as TS: 1. Pilot 2. OffshoreO&G You can take in high capital income; but your disposal is like below 10%; you think these well paid able to sustain a good life? |
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Dec 27 2019, 01:22 PM
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Dec 27 2019, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Dec 27 2019, 01:59 PM) This ^^ inb4 /k mindset; omg i got paid so low. ----- Although I'd like to point out that discussing your income privately between peers might open yourself up to certain discrimination; e.g., if that person you've shared with could end-up been loose lip about your income and thus causing others (with lower income) might be envious of you; thus disrupting the entire relationship between working peers. That is one scenario; but overall, if personal income are to be shared constructively, it will be an added advantage for the employee to negotiate for a better salary (should they want to remain and progress further in the same company). Malaysia in term of remuneration "algorithm" and is very private and fucked up. Like Business. Which; have created what we call inequality gap. You go see western country; every jobs; are listed and well detail how much they entitled to. Remuneration services in Malaysia also lack in covering job; only listed those professionals while in real job reality; there is so many departments and job scope. Malaysia govt and private sector need to come 100% transparent about these to make fair for statistical and real industry need calculation. |
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Dec 27 2019, 01:40 PM
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Average malaysian pay is around 2.3k. those are high achivers
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Dec 27 2019, 01:54 PM
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Nice summary , everyone knows pilots earn a boat load, but until now didnt realise the extent!
Anyway to all the butthurt pipul complaining he is sharing client data, theres no specific insider info here, everything here can be found on web/common sense. You think a pilot earn only 7000 ah?? |
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Dec 27 2019, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Dec 27 2019, 01:02 PM) well i guess the community makes it possible, then again if people here earn 20k, theres a chance the joke would be a bigger amount. Wealth is always relative. 20k here, party every day✌️Personally i dont think its wrong to spend time online, but life has its scarifies and not all productive hobbies produce income. Its more like, if we want to chill out the odds of high wages would be very low. Its the same in the opposite direction, if you want to have high wages the odds of time with family and friends or side hobbies diminish. its very rare, ive seen someone that has both, the mythical worklife balance and i often attribute it to luck. The topic gets waaaaaay more complex tho, we are simplifying it a bit, like one figure to ponder upon. if Intelligence is a physical attribute, so at any point in time, you have 50% of the population being dumber than the rest. Often less intelligent folks make more career mistakes, cant keep up with the race and vice versa. So at all points in time, you have 50% of the population under performing and they cannot perform even if they wanted to (hence why we celebrate guys who work hard and succeed against the odds). Then out of the low 50%, what of the last 10%? what do we do with them and which intelligence group we belong to? Stuff that keeps me up at night really |
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Dec 27 2019, 02:01 PM
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can confirm IT but you need to take up more than one client.
25 8k gross. life quality nearing 0. |
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Dec 27 2019, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(mesothelium @ Dec 27 2019, 12:46 PM) An aside, I disagree that spending time on online forums can have very little return. I make a living working remotely and the one thing all my clients have in common is they were introduced by someone I met online. What matters is the mindset in which you engage in the activity. To be honest, I get most of my clients from LYN and Facebook, at least that is how they got introduced to me. For me it is beneficial to have a presence online, I earn in some ways for every posts that I make. I do agree though that the signal to noise ratio is very low. I can't be too sure about others who do it for the fun of it, as in creating new accounts and posting nonsense threads. It's all fun and games, but it if they do it excessively, that would take time away from their waking, productive life |
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Dec 27 2019, 02:01 PM
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