Nope. Quit not long after as my career was a dead end job. Not much career progression and the salary+commission is stuck around the same level for years.

I ventured to different fields, real estate, building management & maintenance, even broadband reseller but now just content doing my own small business with a few workers runninng the day to day operation.

so means a majority in K all earning below 10K so 20K myth is not true after all

damn, I was out for uni only for a year. Now earning 3.4k basic with 450 in allowances, and I thought my pay was above average. Penang area, as 'IT junior consultant' aka Software Dev

my company does have good benefits and friendly environment though, with 13th month salary and almost guaranteed 1-2 month bonus every year, 16 days of leave and 12 hours worth of timeoff per year.

unlike my first job out of uni.

This post has been edited by MKCL: Dec 27 2019, 11:09 AM

To be more exact, those who complaint about low pay should work hard for higher pay. Your statement will only creates many entitled one to demand higher pay. Should remember even for the same job, the pay would be different between peers and between companies.

Granted there are some who are short changed, but those are in the minorities. And yes, for those who are short changed, they do deserved to be paid accordingly.

Like there's a lot of pilots in msia..

I don't have pilot friend

You in Aoen Credit?

How about those in GLC, LHDN? Bring home good pay?

TS mind sharing a pay analysis for engineers in Malaysia? The typical mechanical, manufacturing, design, electrical engineers.

Theres an often misinformation or least misunderstanding that folks have with pay, that think that all degrees are the same and all jobs are the same

Like folks say "work bank dead end", that only applies to some departments in banking. Similar to Insurance, if you are an agent its a tough job.

This applies to all forms of industry, medical engineering for example is a shit job, low pay high unemployment, with the rare exceptions getting the fun stuff, you might as well be a musician.

Then theres also a mistake people make with wages and economics in general, people only pay for the best, so often only the top 10-20% gets the best jobs, 40-30% is paid normally, then the last 50% is under paid (cause normally under perform)

so the data always comes out as, the MAJORITY doesnt earn well, cause you have a 50% below average performance all the time.

Decent

But working in epf is like the next best thing after gomen if ur into that kinda stability thing.. Even a front desk clerk earn above 3.5k....and for epf the employer portion will pay u much more than the standard 13%....so ur epf amount will grow big quite fast....

In general, engineers that do the actual work receive average pay compared to their peers within and between the industries

Engineers that consult (have engineering degree but work in a consultancy firm) earn higher pay than engineers that do the actual work

Civil tend to earn lower than EE. Mechanical seem to be employed for the oddest of jobs with somewhat average pay.

In general, engineers do not make much. If you want to earn more, quickly get into management or consultancy. Just my observation

What position? Actuarial Exec, Senior Exec of Managers? 13K is considered OK if you're at managerial level. Those who will get 18K and above are likely to be senior management/HOD level or the Appointed Actuary.

If u working in a non mnc environment and doesn't support oversea client ur earning is okay. Those it supporting oversea project/client working in mnc especially like Cyberjaya earn way more than u

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Dec 27 2019, 11:47 AM

That is so true. Even at the same dept, same job, some will perform better than the others.

You powerpoint presentation looks fantastic? There will be one who's presentation will delivers the same at faster pace.

You don't make any mistake in your work. There will be one who did it faster than you when it matters.

You complaint about hard work? There will be one who will do the job without complaining.

well, mine is a MNC i think although the size is pretty small. Penang and SG branch only around 50 ppl. We kinda support another MNC as system integrator which has sites around the world. But its a usual 9-6 job with system migration and integration projects. HQ in Germany and my colleagues get to travel around the world to client sites every year

This post has been edited by MKCL: Dec 27 2019, 11:52 AM

Gomen Doctors average out around 5-8k from my sampling... Good pay with job stability I would say... The specialist I'm not sure starting how much but I always heard 12k is the norm... Of course if u go into private would be paid much more

It goes without saying that my clients would be doing well or at least above average for themselves if they approach me for mortgage and asb financing applications

For my insurance and UT businesses, I meet them from the above two "door openers"

Suffice to say this is not a random selection at all. Far from it, as I have mentioned earlier in my post.

Why am I doing this? Perhaps to help people realize the discrepancies of the pay scale. They may be of the same age, they may be working in the same lines, industries, or even the same company; yet there is a gap between theirs and others

I particularly enjoy comparing people's pay between their age.

My observation:

1. Within the same industries and job scope, differences in pay can be put down to job-competency

2. Between different industries but of the same age, differences in pay can be denoted to differences in demand for that skill set

Pilot, yeah i have one friend in the industry as well. They clear good pay, own houses, powerful bikes and nice cars. But they are rarely home to enjoy these things. And being away from family.

At least O&G does better. Chemical engineer in the drill platform. 7 weeks work, 3 weeks R n R, includes economy flight ticket home or first class ticket to places as designated by company, armed escort when going to work. Kinda like going to war. Way bigger pay, buy houses like way way earlier among anyone else in our group. Every 3-4 year switch to a different country by company, mostly sand nikka place.

Both are hazard pay.

Me, way below /ktard standard.

Wrong, highest pay is politician

often folks here dont have a grasp on how competitive the world actually is, they say "oh the aussies are lazy" why cant we be lazy.

but the world is waaaaaay more competitive, post grads are becoming a norm, professional papers are commonplace, not only for asians even for other nations.

its no surprise we are a bit behind the wage scale,

its only normal and i was referring to why it happens

the market for anything tends to go like 10-20% (highest pay), 30-40% (mid tier), 50% below average. The gap between someone in the low 50% and the top 10% can be huge, sometimes x3-4 times in total earnings per year.

And you make a great observation, the top 10-20% often dont hang out here and post shit, they are often too busy with work even for their families let alone to shit post in /k/

which is also why a lot of folks here complain about low pay.

dun be a kuli designer

pay is shit

just laying it out for y'all

kthxbye