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 High-paying jobs for early 20s through mid 30s, feeling bad about your career choice?

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post Dec 27 2019, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Dec 27 2019, 02:48 PM)
Those that are already hired by MAS are the lucky ones, they have clocked flying hours and experience which is valuable to other airlines.

There was an article just a little over 2 years ago that flying graduates that are jobless number around 2,000 in Malaysia alone -

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/tale...crisis-aviation

On the other hand, MAS got rid of 777 so that left some pilots looking for jobs elsewhere - i know a friend who was a 777 pilot still struggling.
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Oh yeah my pilot clients covered this with me.

Don't go to flight school to learn privately. Airlines are not interested in these private graduates, the airlines have limited seats and would prefer the ones produced through their own cadet programs - sometimes these students are mixed into the same classes and training, but a whole the ones who went through the cadet training program were selected more thoroughly than those who paid into the classes.

But I know a friend who is not a client, who got in because his dad was a pilot - I am sure he is a capable pilot by hos own right, but it helps to have a connection to get into the program

But at the same time I have met a client who recently got a job as a pilot, he went through the private flight school route. He claims that airlines prefer people like him due to the cheaper (read: paid for privately) recruitment costs. But he was the only private flight school client I have ever had, while there were plenty of Cadet-program pilots that I know of.

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post Dec 27 2019, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(palankon @ Dec 27 2019, 07:25 AM)
bini aku salesgirl property kat cyberjaya.

so apa yg wildcard cakap ni aku dah tau lama dah.

tapi kalau tanya aku, aku tak minat kerja gaji besar ni. sebab kebanyakannya takde masa dan selalu kena outstation.

biar gaji sederhana, asalkan hidup bebas tanpa bebanan mental dan kekangan masa.
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Even if you wanted it, belum tentu people wanna hire you, that is not an option for most people, they are not good enough, not smart enough, not qualified, come on brah.
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post Dec 27 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 02:48 PM)
Game Designer? Admittedly I have never met one. But you are a designer, but not a coder/programmer right? You design the arts and what not?
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I only Graphic designer with UX UI experience .....
Hard for leaving in mid level salary ....
10K or 15K a month need 10 years build, that what I think.
Means end 30s have 10K.
I really feel stuck at Design industry. shocking.gif shakehead.gif
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post Dec 27 2019, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.RW @ Dec 27 2019, 02:55 PM)
I only Graphic designer with UX UI experience .....
Hard for leaving in mid level salary ....
10K or 15K a month need 10 years build, that what I think.
Means end 30s have 10K.
I really feel stuck at Design industry. shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
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Time to start running your own business on the side. If it pays off, start running it full time

In the same industry of course
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post Dec 27 2019, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Dec 27 2019, 04:16 PM)
Janji jangan dengki dengan orang lain yang gaji besar dan tuduh mereka tindas dan curi peluang orang lain ok dah. Too bad Malaysia got a lot of people like that.
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yea; exactly.

Most malaysia dont understand better income in early years vs income at later stage of life.
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.RW @ Dec 27 2019, 04:16 PM)
Dam ....
Ayam here G.Designer, I not event have 10K a month....
Soon I going 30s also, couldn't find 10K a Month.
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your case will be like winning lottery. Too many G-designer out there these days.

What is worst; in coming time; more coders in the market as some had been in their studies.
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QUOTE(Mr.RW @ Dec 27 2019, 04:25 PM)
I only Graphic designer with UX UI experience .....
Hard for leaving in mid level salary ....
10K or 15K a month need 10 years build, that what I think.
Means end 30s have 10K.
I really feel stuck at Design industry. shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
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Go your own; too many UX/UI people soon.

to be exactly; UX/UI getting saturated no? wink.gif
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 05:06 AM)
Given my previous occupation and current businesses, I get to see people's payslips everyday. Sometimes I meet three or four clients in a day, all of whom are seeking mortgages, ASB Financing, PL, for all sorts of purposes including buying their houses, refinancing them for cash, investments, emergency funds, standby capital, etc.

When applying for these facilities, they have to attach their income statements and for those who are new at their employment, their LO which would spell out their exact remunerations.

Here are the list of surprisingly high income for those in the first 10 years of their careers. If you get into these lines, you would be set for a while until you decide your own path through your mid 30s. The list in not in order nor is it exhaustive:

1. Pilots 

a) In their mid to late 20s they easily beat everyone else in the list. They have the flexibility of setting their own hours, and their pay is largely supplemented by their allowances. I know of a least-dedicated (redacted) pilot that I have seen, as he prefers running his side businesses (trading, maintenance/servicing, self-service laundry, etc.) over flying. He made use of his high-paying job to generate capital that he would in turn pump into his business. This rather under-dedicated pilot was clearing RM20,000 a month doing the bare minimum flying hours as required by his company. 

b) Another young pilot in his early 20s from (redacted) was earning about 10k busting his ass, but I am sure he will eventually get to the RM40k mark as what I have seen a few (redacted) commanders in their late 30s are bringing back home.

c) I remember a (redacted) captain in his early 40s that was also making RM40k, but he seemed very busy with flights all over the world.

2. Upstream oil-and-gas, first-tier

a) I was informed and this was corroborated by a few executives about the three-tier systems, not unlike a caste, on the pay and responsibilities of upstream O&G employees. For those who have been following me would be familiar with this kid who graduated from UiTM with a degree in EE, who got a job in an O&G company before he even completed his degree. His first job right out of college would net him RM5,000, born in 1997, he would start his job next year at the age of 23.

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b) There is another geophysicist who was 35 when I met him for his financing application. He was earning RM20,000, having already worked in recognized O&G companies like (redacted), (redacted), and some companies in the UK.

c) There is another executive that I know of that got posted to Vietnam to oversee some fields development a few years ago, he was 29 and was being paid USD7,000, with all other expenses paid

3. IT, MNC companies

a) I have had the pleasure of meeting a number of IT executives working in shared-services (support) based in (redacted). These people are being paid handsomely, perhaps scaled according to USD as they are supporting their centers located globally. At 28, an IT-support (of sorts) executive was earning RM9,000 gross

b) (redacted), (redacted), (redacted) and other IT/business consultancy firm executives are also making big bucks, with their fresh/young executives earning more than RM5,000 right off college and would comfortably climb the ladder going forward

4. Auditors (managers)

Admittedly, I have only met a handful of them, but given that their ACCA may be completed in three, if not two years time, they tend to start working as auditors at a very young age, especially compared to their peers from other industries. By their mid to late 20s, if they persist working as a junior auditor from early mornings to late nights, they may end up being a manager overseeing their other young auditors. Pay starts at RM10,000 with all allowances and benefits included

5. Actuarist

a) I have only met like ten of them throughout my career. The one I met most recently was 29 this year, his gross pay was RM18,000

b) His spouse, also in the same industry albeit perhaps a different capacity was making RM8,000.

c) Another fellow that I helped with was called into working in HK that he had to cancel his property purchase in Malaysia. He was in his early 30s a few years ago, but was already making more than RM20,000 while working here. He would have made more than that in HK.

All three are/were working for insurance companies

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All of the comments above were plucked from the back of my head, without much, if any data analysis. They are simply a recollection of a group of people whom I noticed and remember due to their above-average income given their age.
 
Before you guys ask: In general, very few people make more than RM20,000 a month. And for those who do, never seem to be active posters on this forum - perhaps they are busy sorting and going through their life. While they may have initially found me here, they are generally silent readers who would get in touch with me directly through PM or Whatsap. However, keep in mind that my sample is not random as they are simply a collection of my clients that thought I was good enough to help them with their financial needs. There may be others who earn a lot but I was not lucky enough to work with them on their finances.
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Dec 27 2019, 02:48 PM)
There was an article just a little over 2 years ago that flying graduates that are jobless number around 2,000 in Malaysia alone
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Yes, it is hard for fresh graduates to land the first job. Once you have enough flying hours especially jet hours, then it is totally a different story.

QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Dec 27 2019, 02:48 PM)
On the other hand, MAS got rid of 777 so that left some pilots looking for jobs elsewhere - i know a friend who was a 777 pilot still struggling.
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Sure or not? There are many airlines out there looking for experience pilot.

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post Dec 27 2019, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 27 2019, 03:00 PM)
your case will be like winning lottery. Too many G-designer out there these days.

What is worst; in coming time; more coders in the market as some had been in their studies.
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If I change industry now.
Noting I can change in my row now, in Malaysia.
Unless I in Euro or US country, I think can change industry now.
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QUOTE(UrbanGraduate @ Dec 27 2019, 04:32 PM)
ayam poorfag sed

pls donate :'(
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urban graduate earn what?
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:20 PM

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post Dec 27 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 05:06 AM)
Before you guys ask: In general, very few people make more than RM20,000 a month. And for those who do, never seem to be active posters on this forum -
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I wish to correct that fallacy... as you can see i got more stars post then you tongue.gif

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post Dec 27 2019, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 02:41 PM)
Damn. I hope that one apple doesnt spoil the whole barrel
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To be fair. Somehow the experience will be there, and others Uni will be higher priority/ranking in our list d. 😅

QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 27 2019, 02:43 PM)
Your Intern ordered YOU to do their work? wtf; which kind of employee you are? suppose intern are below you; not above you.  laugh.gif
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 27 2019, 03:27 PM)
I wish to correct that fallacy... as you can see i got more stars post then you tongue.gif
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unfortunately kopitiam posts yields no post counts despite my quality replies laugh.gif mega_shok.gif

QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Dec 27 2019, 03:30 PM)
To be fair. Somehow the experience will be there, and others Uni will be higher priority/ranking in our list d. 😅
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Fair enough, you do you. Credit where it is due. They are ambassadors of their alma matter afterall. If they fuck up, it will affect people's perception of their unis
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Dec 27 2019, 05:00 PM)
To be fair. Somehow the experience will be there, and others Uni will be higher priority/ranking in our list d. 😅
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oh you. Pity you.

yea; these UTP intern are quite pain in the arse.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 02:03 PM)
Oh I got loads of IT clients, but IT, like engineers, have a lot of subsets. Development, maintenance, networking, etc.

Btw, those CCNP guys are making bank. RM18k at 32, working for a local-MNC company.
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In IT networking field, the surefire way of getting at least 10k salary for engineers is to have CCIE.

I don't think you can get more than 15k for CCNP engineers unless you're having a managerial post.

Also, if you have the trinity combo skills (Network+OS(Linux/Windows)+Coding) and become some sort of automation or Devops or solution consultant, can get buta-buta get 10k.

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 05:06 PM)
unfortunately kopitiam posts yields no post counts despite my quality replies  laugh.gif  mega_shok.gif 
Fair enough, you do you. Credit where it is due. They are ambassadors of their alma matter afterall. If they fuck up, it will affect people's perception of their  unis
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you need to be in Jobs & Career section. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 27 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Dec 27 2019, 03:44 PM)
In IT networking field, the surefire way of getting at least 10k salary for engineers is to have CCIE.

I don't think you can get more than 15k for CCNP engineers unless you're having a managerial post.

Also, if you have the trinity combo skills (Network+OS(Linux/Windows)+Coding) and become some sort of automation or Devops or solution consultant, can get buta-buta get 10k.
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Nah, that client did have CCNP only and I was impressed with his pay. I need to dig in if I need to verify though, as his case was of a few years ago. Works for a premier local company that is likely and MNC by now.

QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 27 2019, 03:45 PM)
you need to be in Jobs & Career section. biggrin.gif
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Hey that is a good idea. Im like the deposits of all their income information laugh.gif Why not right, some of them are bound to be looking for finances as well


Hehe. Thanks mate for the brilliant idea. Haven't thought of that since I never really needed a job. But you made good sense
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QUOTE(MKCL @ Dec 27 2019, 11:09 AM)
damn, I was out for uni only for a year. Now earning 3.4k basic with 450 in allowances, and I thought my pay was above average. Penang area, as 'IT junior consultant' aka Software Dev

my company does have good benefits and friendly environment though, with 13th month salary and almost guaranteed 1-2 month bonus every year, 16 days of leave and 12 hours worth of timeoff per year.

unlike my first job out of uni.
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Sounds like Keysight Tech?

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