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 High-paying jobs for early 20s through mid 30s, feeling bad about your career choice?

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post Dec 27 2019, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Dec 27 2019, 02:01 PM)
can confirm IT but you need to take up more than one client.
25 8k gross. life quality nearing 0. ohmy.gif
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Oh I got loads of IT clients, but IT, like engineers, have a lot of subsets. Development, maintenance, networking, etc.

Btw, those CCNP guys are making bank. RM18k at 32, working for a local-MNC company.
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post Dec 27 2019, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(drowning @ Dec 27 2019, 11:11 AM)
To be more exact, those who complaint about low pay should work hard for higher pay. Your statement will only creates many entitled one to demand higher pay. Should remember even for the same job, the pay would be different between peers and between companies.

Granted there are some who are short changed, but those are in the minorities. And yes, for those who are short changed, they do deserved to be paid accordingly.
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Why is being entitled asking for higher pay not good for the person being paid?
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post Dec 27 2019, 02:04 PM

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tat uitm grad with O&G offer...confirm petronas la....wat u expect


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post Dec 27 2019, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Mondello @ Dec 27 2019, 02:04 PM)
tat uitm grad with O&G offer...confirm petronas la....wat u expect
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Nope. It is a servicing-based Oil and Gas company, as in it would be servicing plenty of clients O&G companies - Petronas is a client company, not a servicing one. It is an MNC company with multiple offices across the world including in Australia. It is very diverse, with good representation from every groups in their office in KL.

This is the problem with Malaysians, their mindset is that of: UiTM = Melayu = Tongkat = Petronas. Just so you know, there are plenty of capable Bumiputras out there, a good number of them so much more capable than most people give credit to. These new-gen Bumiputras can compete at the same levels against others in racially-blind MNC companies where meritocracy prevails

Malays are not incompetent due to their skin-color, likewise Chinese are not superior due to the shapes/sizes of their eyes. It would be wise for one to stop stereotyping each other based on their physical features. Judge a person based on himself and not the groups you assign them into.

It is quite sad to see that there are still racially-inclined (a.k.a racists) that would blanket-label everyone into a single group to cover or deflect their own insecurities. Perhaps you didn't earn RM5,000 in your first job, and being a non-Malay you explain your lack of successes (compared to the UiTM graduate) by saying that he's a Malay so he gets help by being employed in Petronas. Well I am here to tell you that he competed fair and square, he did well during his internship and they liked him so much that he was offered a job before he even graduated

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post Dec 27 2019, 02:16 PM

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Its normal for fresh grad getting rm3-4k in top IT MNC in cyberjaya

Pity the IT freshies in other companies
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 03:41 PM)
Nope. It is a servicing-based Oil and Gas company, as in it would be servicing plenty of clients O&G companies - Petronas is a client company, not a servicing one. It is an MNC company with multiple offices across the world including in Australia. It is very diverse, with good representation from every groups in their office in KL.

This is the problem with Malaysians, their mindset is that of: UiTM = Melayu = Tongkat = Petronas. Just so you know, there are plenty of capable Bumiputras out there, a good number of them so much more capable than most people give credit to. These new-gen Bumiputras can compete at the same levels against others in racially-blind MNC companies where meritocracy prevails

Malays are not incompetent due to their skin-color, likewise Chinese are not superior due to the shapes/sizes of their eyes. It would be wise for one to stop stereotyping each other based on their physical features. Judge a person based on himself and not the groups you assign them into.

It is quite sad to see that there are still racially-inclined (a.k.a racists) that would blanket-label everyone into a single group to cover or deflect their own insecurities. Perhaps you didn't earn RM5,000 in your first job, and being a non-Malay you explain your lack of successes (compared to the UiTM graduate) by saying that he's a Malay so he gets help by being employed in Petronas. Well I am here to tell you that he competed fair and square, he did well during his internship and they liked him so much that he was offered a job before he even graduated
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Not UTP = Petronas? laugh.gif


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post Dec 27 2019, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 27 2019, 02:22 PM)
Not UTP = Petronas? laugh.gif
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UiTM lah~~~

University Tanah Melayu hahahaha

Just kidding, University Teknologi Melayu MARA
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 03:56 PM)
UiTM lah~~~

University Tanah Melayu hahahaha

Just kidding, University Teknologi Melayu MARA
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usual; UTP direct in Petronas. and dont be surprise; some of these are really good. But coming from UITM; interesting development. This question whats going on with UTP now? only making petronas management minions?
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post Dec 27 2019, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 27 2019, 02:30 PM)
usual; UTP direct in Petronas. and dont be surprise; some of these are really good. But coming from UITM; interesting development. This question whats going on with UTP now? only making petronas management minions?
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I believe Petronas is well-run, and they will not take in all their graduates just for the sake of it. Plenty were let go and asked repay their debts to Petronas too (they were given a convertible loan that would only convert if they serve?). The loan isnt excessive, its just a typical private university. Some cream of the crop are absorbed by the mothership, others go to other O&G companies, and the rest ply their trade in other industries - I believe they teach more than just oil and gas related - plenty of other disciplines there.

Well they are a University after all, not just a "Institute of Technology"
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 27 2019, 02:30 PM)
usual; UTP direct in Petronas. and dont be surprise; some of these are really good. But coming from UITM; interesting development. This question whats going on with UTP now? only making petronas management minions?
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UTP intern gave me trauma. sad.gif

Even order me do some of their work.
Suggesting my allocated time for the task was not reasonable.

sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 27 2019, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 05:06 AM)
Given my previous occupation and current businesses, I get to see people's payslips everyday. Sometimes I meet three or four clients in a day, all of whom are seeking mortgages, ASB Financing, PL, for all sorts of purposes including buying their houses, refinancing them for cash, investments, emergency funds, standby capital, etc.

When applying for these facilities, they have to attach their income statements and for those who are new at their employment, their LO which would spell out their exact remunerations.

Here are the list of surprisingly high income for those in the first 10 years of their careers. If you get into these lines, you would be set for a while until you decide your own path through your mid 30s. The list in not in order nor is it exhaustive:

1. Pilots 

a) In their mid to late 20s they easily beat everyone else in the list. They have the flexibility of setting their own hours, and their pay is largely supplemented by their allowances. I know of a least-dedicated (redacted) pilot that I have seen, as he prefers running his side businesses (trading, maintenance/servicing, self-service laundry, etc.) over flying. He made use of his high-paying job to generate capital that he would in turn pump into his business. This rather under-dedicated pilot was clearing RM20,000 a month doing the bare minimum flying hours as required by his company. 

b) Another young pilot in his early 20s from (redacted) was earning about 10k busting his ass, but I am sure he will eventually get to the RM40k mark as what I have seen a few (redacted) commanders in their late 30s are bringing back home.

c) I remember a (redacted) captain in his early 40s that was also making RM40k, but he seemed very busy with flights all over the world.

2. Upstream oil-and-gas, first-tier

a) I was informed and this was corroborated by a few executives about the three-tier systems, not unlike a caste, on the pay and responsibilities of upstream O&G employees. For those who have been following me would be familiar with this kid who graduated from UiTM with a degree in EE, who got a job in an O&G company before he even completed his degree. His first job right out of college would net him RM5,000, born in 1997, he would start his job next year at the age of 23.

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b) There is another geophysicist who was 35 when I met him for his financing application. He was earning RM20,000, having already worked in recognized O&G companies like (redacted), (redacted), and some companies in the UK.

c) There is another executive that I know of that got posted to Vietnam to oversee some fields development a few years ago, he was 29 and was being paid USD7,000, with all other expenses paid

3. IT, MNC companies

a) I have had the pleasure of meeting a number of IT executives working in shared-services (support) based in (redacted). These people are being paid handsomely, perhaps scaled according to USD as they are supporting their centers located globally. At 28, an IT-support (of sorts) executive was earning RM9,000 gross

b) (redacted), (redacted), (redacted) and other IT/business consultancy firm executives are also making big bucks, with their fresh/young executives earning more than RM5,000 right off college and would comfortably climb the ladder going forward

4. Auditors (managers)

Admittedly, I have only met a handful of them, but given that their ACCA may be completed in three, if not two years time, they tend to start working as auditors at a very young age, especially compared to their peers from other industries. By their mid to late 20s, if they persist working as a junior auditor from early mornings to late nights, they may end up being a manager overseeing their other young auditors. Pay starts at RM10,000 with all allowances and benefits included

5. Actuarist

a) I have only met like ten of them throughout my career. The one I met most recently was 29 this year, his gross pay was RM18,000

b) His spouse, also in the same industry albeit perhaps a different capacity was making RM8,000.

c) Another fellow that I helped with was called into working in HK that he had to cancel his property purchase in Malaysia. He was in his early 30s a few years ago, but was already making more than RM20,000 while working here. He would have made more than that in HK.

All three are/were working for insurance companies

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All of the comments above were plucked from the back of my head, without much, if any data analysis. They are simply a recollection of a group of people whom I noticed and remember due to their above-average income given their age.
 
Before you guys ask: In general, very few people make more than RM20,000 a month. And for those who do, never seem to be active posters on this forum - perhaps they are busy sorting and going through their life. While they may have initially found me here, they are generally silent readers who would get in touch with me directly through PM or Whatsap. However, keep in mind that my sample is not random as they are simply a collection of my clients that thought I was good enough to help them with their financial needs. There may be others who earn a lot but I was not lucky enough to work with them on their finances.
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Nothing secret really. To get pilot license would easily cost RM400-600k total investment. To be those in Petro whatever stuffs, must have ball of steel due to oil price drop and chance of loooonggg unemployment for freshies or even experienced.
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many pilots got laid off at MAS, still looking for jobs.

As for IT, depends lah. I'm from IT but my wife who is investment banking makes much, much more.

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post Dec 27 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Dec 27 2019, 02:33 PM)
UTP intern gave me trauma.  sad.gif

Even order me do some of their work.
Suggesting my allocated time for the task was not reasonable.

sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Damn. I hope that one apple doesnt spoil the whole barrel

QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Dec 27 2019, 02:38 PM)
many pilots got laid off at MAS, still looking for jobs.

As for IT, depends lah. I'm from IT but my wife who is investment banking makes much, much more.
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The world is facing pilot shortages. I remember my pilot client from MAS telling me that other companies set up booths at the pilots lounge area at the airport (of sorts), ala a career fair, to snatch MAS pilots away
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PM me openings......
current company run like doghouse
i try to implement system, they say too busy to implement system....

no one give a fuck, no point for me to give a fuck how they survive also
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Dec 27 2019, 04:03 PM)
UTP intern gave me trauma.  sad.gif

Even order me do some of their work.
Suggesting my allocated time for the task was not reasonable.

sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Your Intern ordered YOU to do their work? wtf; which kind of employee you are? suppose intern are below you; not above you. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 04:11 PM)
Damn. I hope that one apple doesnt spoil the whole barrel
The world is facing pilot shortages[B]. I remember my pilot client from MAS telling me that other companies set up booths at the pilots lounge area at the airport (of sorts), ala a career fair, to snatch MAS pilots away
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luckily they are not automated yet.

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Yes; Aging pilot may soon come to the spectrum.
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QUOTE(palankon @ Dec 27 2019, 07:25 AM)
bini aku salesgirl property kat cyberjaya.

so apa yg wildcard cakap ni aku dah tau lama dah.

tapi kalau tanya aku, aku tak minat kerja gaji besar ni. sebab kebanyakannya takde masa dan selalu kena outstation.

biar gaji sederhana, asalkan hidup bebas tanpa bebanan mental dan kekangan masa.
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Janji jangan dengki dengan orang lain yang gaji besar dan tuduh mereka tindas dan curi peluang orang lain ok dah. Too bad Malaysia got a lot of people like that.
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Dam ....
Ayam here G.Designer, I not event have 10K a month....
Soon I going 30s also, couldn't find 10K a Month.
GG

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 27 2019, 02:41 PM)
Damn. I hope that one apple doesnt spoil the whole barrel
The world is facing pilot shortages. I remember my pilot client from MAS telling me that other companies set up booths at the pilots lounge area at the airport (of sorts), ala a career fair, to snatch MAS pilots away
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Those that are already hired by MAS are the lucky ones, they have clocked flying hours and experience which is valuable to other airlines.

There was an article just a little over 2 years ago that flying graduates that are jobless number around 2,000 in Malaysia alone -

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/tale...crisis-aviation

On the other hand, MAS got rid of 777 so that left some pilots looking for jobs elsewhere - i know a friend who was a 777 pilot still struggling.
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QUOTE(Mr.RW @ Dec 27 2019, 02:46 PM)
Dam ....
Ayam here G.Designer, I not event have 10K a month....
Soon I going 30s also, couldn't find 10K a Month.
GG
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Game Designer? Admittedly I have never met one. But you are a designer, but not a coder/programmer right? You design the arts and what not?

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