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nexona88
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Mar 8 2023, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 8 2023, 03:37 PM) Ai ya over the last 12 years diff of 2% only. Luckily i didnt listen to the naysayers and dumped all fd into AS1M when few people wanted it. hmm... my understandings.... 1 - EPF 2. ASM 1 3. ASM 2 4. ASM 3 so basically EPF top them all correct??? No wonder people dump ASM 3 first This post has been edited by nexona88: Mar 8 2023, 06:34 PM
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MGM
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Mar 8 2023, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 8 2023, 06:33 PM) hmm... my understandings.... 1 - EPF 2. ASM 1 3. ASM 2 4. ASM 3 so basically EPF top them allΒ correct??? No wonder people dump ASM 3 firstΒ  I also dump ASM3 only cos it was easy to accumulate n was 90% of all my ASMx, now still 70%. ASM2 n Asm3 not much diff. This post has been edited by MGM: Mar 8 2023, 07:13 PM
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nexona88
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Mar 8 2023, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 8 2023, 07:12 PM) I also dump ASM3 only cos it was easy to accumulate n was 90% of all my ASMx, now still 70%. ASM2 n Asm3 not much diff. Yes. Initial years kinda easy to accumulate the fund... Many have doubt the dividend would be only 4% (which in the end came true after all).... Thanks to certain people / interesting rival parties spreading fake information / rumors....
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MattSally
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Mar 8 2023, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 8 2023, 08:14 PM) Yes. Initial years kinda easy to accumulate the fund... Many have doubt the dividend would be only 4% (which in the end came true after all).... Thanks to certain people / interesting rival parties spreading fake information / rumors.... We have just about made the decision to make a withdrawal from ASM3 in October to cover the next 2 years living expenses. We will then see how returns look in other funds afterwards. If the trend remains unfavourable then we will be withdrawing all of our ASM3 and most of our ASM2 in early 2024. Well, that's today's plan anyway!
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Wolves
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Mar 8 2023, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(MattSally @ Mar 8 2023, 08:50 PM) We have just about made the decision to make a withdrawal from ASM3 in October to cover the next 2 years living expenses. We will then see how returns look in other funds afterwards. If the trend remains unfavourable then we will be withdrawing all of our ASM3 and most of our ASM2 in early 2024. Well, that's today's plan anyway! You do realize we are actually at the door step of US recession right? π Chances are it will still be low. Major layoff just announced today plus all the stock market ended in red after powell's speech. Don't think we are seeing a rebound anytime soon boss.
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MattSally
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Mar 8 2023, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 8 2023, 08:58 PM) You do realize we are actually at the door step of US recession right? π Chances are it will still be low. Major layoff just announced today plus all the stock market ended in red after powell's speech. Don't think we are seeing a rebound anytime soon boss. I am certainly not expecting a rebound but I do think there is a chance to stabilise rates around 4%. That would be ok provided the Ringgit doesn't devalue much more.
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coolguy_0925
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Mar 8 2023, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(MattSally @ Mar 8 2023, 08:50 PM) We have just about made the decision to make a withdrawal from ASM3 in October to cover the next 2 years living expenses. We will then see how returns look in other funds afterwards. If the trend remains unfavourable then we will be withdrawing all of our ASM3 and most of our ASM2 in early 2024. Well, that's today's plan anyway! More inclined to see OPR back to pre-covid altho not directly affecting ASM but too bad does not seem to happen anytime soon QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 8 2023, 08:58 PM) You do realize we are actually at the door step of US recession right? π Chances are it will still be low. Major layoff just announced today plus all the stock market ended in red after powell's speech. Don't think we are seeing a rebound anytime soon boss. Despite all the gloomy news USD still skyroketting
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nexona88
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Mar 9 2023, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(MattSally @ Mar 8 2023, 08:50 PM) We have just about made the decision to make a withdrawal from ASM3 in October to cover the next 2 years living expenses. We will then see how returns look in other funds afterwards. If the trend remains unfavourable then we will be withdrawing all of our ASM3 and most of our ASM2 in early 2024. Well, that's today's plan anyway! Well... It's kinda good planning βΊοΈ ASM 1 upcoming rate would indicate the other 2 funds... Personally... I suspect & gut feeling it's would be around 3.5% to 3.75% range.... Could be lower? Anyone guess ππ
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Jack&Guild
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Mar 9 2023, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 9 2023, 12:27 AM) Well... It's kinda good planning βΊοΈ ASM 1 upcoming rate would indicate the other 2 funds... Personally... I suspect & gut feeling it's would be around 3.5% to 3.75% range.... Could be lower? Anyone guess ππ I guess either 3.75% or 4%. 75% chance for 3.75% and 25% for 4%
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nexona88
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Mar 9 2023, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Mar 9 2023, 10:24 AM) I guess either 3.75% or 4%. 75% chance for 3.75% and 25% for 4%  50% chance of it become 3% too πππ€
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Jack&Guild
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Mar 9 2023, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 9 2023, 11:37 AM) 50% chance of it become 3% too πππ€ Hopefully can maintain at least 3.75% looking at KLCI was not doin good last year.
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nexona88
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Mar 9 2023, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Mar 9 2023, 11:46 AM) Hopefully can maintain at least 3.75% looking at KLCI was not doin good last year. don't know lorh... looking ath the flagship fund ASB 1 can somehow get the hints
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Wolves
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Mar 9 2023, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(MattSally @ Mar 8 2023, 09:37 PM) I am certainly not expecting a rebound but I do think there is a chance to stabilise rates around 4%. That would be ok provided the Ringgit doesn't devalue much more. QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Mar 8 2023, 09:43 PM) More inclined to see OPR back to pre-covid altho not directly affecting ASM but too bad does not seem to happen anytime soon Despite all the gloomy news USD still skyroketting QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 9 2023, 12:27 AM) Well... It's kinda good planning βΊοΈ ASM 1 upcoming rate would indicate the other 2 funds... Personally... I suspect & gut feeling it's would be around 3.5% to 3.75% range.... Could be lower? Anyone guess ππ No hope for 4% asm... π
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coolguy_0925
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Mar 9 2023, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 9 2023, 03:17 PM) No hope for 4% asm... π It's okay USD 4.52 ONLY OPR can maintain MYR weak baik utk expot
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nexona88
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Mar 9 2023, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 9 2023, 03:17 PM) No hope for 4% asm... π say helooo to ASM 1 @ 3% huhuhuhuhuh
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coolguy_0925
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Mar 9 2023, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 9 2023, 03:27 PM) say helooo to ASM 1 @ 3% huhuhuhuhuh Syukur deflation now McDonald's only RM5 now 3% is a lot
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MattSally
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Mar 9 2023, 03:39 PM
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I think maintaining OPR at 2.75% is a big mistake but we all know or suspect why it has been done. Let's hope any damage caused is minimal and that common sense prevails at the next OPR meeting.
ASM1 dividend will be very revealing.
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Jack&Guild
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Mar 9 2023, 03:41 PM
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OPR definitely affects loan and fixed deposit rate. But for asm dividend, I doubt that the adjustment has anything to do with the asnb investment return for last year.
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nexona88
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Mar 9 2023, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 9 2023, 03:47 PM) Bursa laosai not enough. I still waiting for maybank drop to 6.80... now still very strong... not anytime soon... many actually moving to Maybank for dividends too... directly to the source instead of middle man - ASMx or EPF
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Wolves
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Mar 9 2023, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 9 2023, 03:50 PM) not anytime soon... many actually moving to Maybank for dividends too... directly to the source instead of middle man - ASMx or EPF  That's my plan too but with this opr, i am sure it will go down in a few months time. π Just need to see how long ppl can hang on and how low it can go. 6.80 very hard but possible
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