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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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raynmann
post Mar 7 2023, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 7 2023, 01:55 PM)
young and energetic cannot treat epf as bank account and withdraw as they like.
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who said so?
more than a million can withdraw
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post Mar 7 2023, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 6 2023, 11:51 PM)
No.. coz kwsp is even more riskier due to threats from a lot of places about tiered dividend talk. And less liquid. So chances are nobody wanna contribute more than necessary there. Once put in, it is locked and if tiered dividend happens, most will wanna get out of it.
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If one has already 1 million in there. The risk is lower right since one can withdraw anytime?
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(raynmann @ Mar 7 2023, 01:58 PM)
who said so?
more than a million can withdraw
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that's true, but based on the age profile, not many millionaires under 35/40.
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 7 2023, 01:59 PM)
If one has already 1 million in there. The risk is lower right since one can withdraw anytime?
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indeed but if millionaire d, maybe got better options
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 7 2023, 02:04 PM)
indeed but if millionaire d, maybe got better options
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Not necessarily. Anyway I have some money parked in ASM and FD. Since the stock market and property haven't collapsed, I was thinking of putting them all into EPF and take out when the market collapses.
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:16 PM

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that's true, but based on the age profile, not many millionaires under 35/40.
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actually a lot by 35 already hit it
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 7 2023, 01:59 PM)
If one has already 1 million in there. The risk is lower right since one can withdraw anytime?
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Even less also can withdraw...

Certain purposes like housing, education or health...

Housing normally biggest headache in our life...
So EPF $$$ can partly support 🙏
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 7 2023, 01:54 PM)
ASB net distribution is only 3.35 per unit or 3.35%. Do you think ASM is able to beat ASB?

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Personally...
NOPE...

Some day dreaming saying can give 4% many times...

Let's see if dream come true 😉🤓
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(raynmann @ Mar 7 2023, 01:26 PM)
if asmx interest less than 4% again, i will start withdraw and dump into epf too

epf is my bank account now as anytime can withdraw too if needed
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Old man spotted. 😂

QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 7 2023, 01:59 PM)
If one has already 1 million in there. The risk is lower right since one can withdraw anytime?
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Withdraw up to 1 million. 1 million before cannot touch.

QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 7 2023, 02:08 PM)
Not necessarily. Anyway I have some money parked in ASM and FD. Since the stock market and property haven't collapsed, I was thinking of putting them all into EPF and take out when the market collapses.
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I also waiting. Inform me please when it collapse. 😂 I predict end of year. Hopefully in October. 😂 Just don't forget tag me when it happens ya.

QUOTE(raynmann @ Mar 7 2023, 02:16 PM)
actually a lot by 35 already hit it
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.... I need to cry liao like that sad.gif
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 7 2023, 02:26 PM)
Personally...
NOPE...

Some day dreaming saying can give 4% many times...

Let's see if dream come true 😉🤓
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Then sleep more. Don't wake up... 😂
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 7 2023, 02:23 PM)
Even less also can withdraw...

Certain purposes like housing, education or health...

Housing normally biggest headache in our life...
So EPF $$$ can partly support 🙏
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I wouldn't recommend to take out from ASM and put into EPF if you have less than 1 million. As far as I know, the money is split into account 1 and 2 70/30.

So originally you have 100k cash, you put into EPF. Then when you wanna withdraw for house , you can only take out 30k from account 2. The other 70k is stuck in account 1.

But if you have 1 mil and you add 100k to it, you can take out that 100k.

This is what I've learned so I hope it is helpful.

This post has been edited by Sihambodoh: Mar 7 2023, 02:35 PM
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 7 2023, 02:27 PM)
Old man spotted. 😂
Withdraw up to 1 million. 1 million before cannot touch.
I also waiting. Inform me please when it collapse. 😂 I predict end of year. Hopefully in October. 😂 Just don't forget tag me when it happens ya.
.... I need to cry liao like that sad.gif
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I don't think I will remember to tag you then. Will busy buying up stuff on sale.
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 7 2023, 02:27 PM)
Old man spotted. 😂
Withdraw up to 1 million. 1 million before cannot touch.
I also waiting. Inform me please when it collapse. 😂 I predict end of year. Hopefully in October. 😂 Just don't forget tag me when it happens ya.
.... I need to cry liao like that sad.gif
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don get upset cos there are even more ppl less than 1M at 35/40. But on the other hand, those 1M don get upset too cos there are many out there beyond usd 1M.
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 7 2023, 02:28 PM)
I wouldn't recommend to take out from ASM and put into EPF if you have less than 1 million. As far as I know, the money is split into account 1 and 2 70/30.

So originally you have 100k cash, you put into EPF. Then when you wanna withdraw, you can only take out 30k from account 2. The other 70k is stuck in account 1.

But if you have 1 mil and you add 100k to it, you can take out that 100k.

This is what I've learned so I hope it is helpful.
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Individual choice..

Anyway...
Why people keep in ASM? For investment purposes... Not would be touching it anytime soon... Unless important things... Like Housing or Health (this 2 is common reasons)....
Everyone knows ASM hard to get (old days when dividend is high, so don't want withdraw... Keep accumulate the $$$)....

Use same logic to EPF...
Want to withdraw... For what? Housing or Health...
Only difference is the percentage.... In ASM... We won't clear up the account too... Partly only.... Same thing with EPF...
Something like this....

And like I said many times too....
Keep some in places where u can access anytime... Like CASA...
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 7 2023, 02:36 PM)
I don't think I will remember to tag you then. Will busy buying up stuff on sale.
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What ya buying? Lai lai share share. What is better than asm that you willing to take from asm out to buy...

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 7 2023, 02:37 PM)
Individual choice..

Anyway...
Why people keep in ASM? For investment purposes... Not would be touching it anytime soon... Unless important things... Like Housing or Health (this 2 is common reasons)....
Everyone knows ASM hard to get (old days when dividend is high, so don't want withdraw... Keep accumulate the $$$)....

Use same logic to EPF...
Want to withdraw... For what? Housing or Health...
Only difference is the percentage.... In ASM... We won't clear up the account too... Partly only.... Same thing with EPF...
Something like this....

And like I said many times too....
Keep some in places where u can access anytime... Like CASA...
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Or money market fund like kdi with 3.5% EAR. As liquid (one business day) and more interest.
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post Mar 7 2023, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 7 2023, 02:41 PM)
Or money market fund like kdi with 3.5% EAR. As liquid (one business day) and more interest.
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Yes.
Whatever that can be access easy.....
For our emergency purposes....


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post Mar 7 2023, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Wolves @ Mar 7 2023, 02:41 PM)
What ya buying? Lai lai share share. What is better than asm that you willing to take from asm out to buy...
Or money market fund like kdi with 3.5% EAR. As liquid (one business day) and more interest.
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You know, the usual, mining, banking, energy, dividend paying stuff.

Property will have to wait longer as there is a lag.
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post Mar 7 2023, 04:58 PM

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I withdrew 60k from asm3 already
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post Mar 7 2023, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(Paradigmata @ Mar 7 2023, 04:58 PM)
I withdrew 60k from asm3 already
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post Mar 7 2023, 07:40 PM

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I withdrew 60k from asm3 already
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Good decision 👍

And move to where?

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