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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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MattSally
post Sep 9 2024, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 9 2024, 06:50 PM)
Expecting ASM 3 @ 1Malaysia to give same rates too???

Just waiting if the distribution is purely from nett income or need "help" from accumulated reserved $$$
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ASM3 4.75% and all from fund performance and with a bit to spare I hope.
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post Sep 12 2024, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 11 2024, 09:08 PM)
First indication

ASB Dividend 2024 @ December

Take ASB% - 0.5%

ASM dividend will be around there
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I think the total ASB1 dividend will be around 5.75% to even 6.0% this December. ASM1 can then give 5.25% with ASM2, ASM3 giving at least 5.0% in 2025.

If I was a betting man (which I am not) I would bet on 5.5% plus a 0.5% bonus for ASB1, so total dividend 6.0%.

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post Sep 12 2024, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 12 2024, 09:01 AM)
5.25% for ASMx fund is quite high nowadays...
Many would be jumping of joy 😅

But still cannot fight the old days of 6% to 8% 🔥💰💵
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If dividends stabilise at not below 6% for ASBx and not below 5% for ASMx then I think most people would be happy enough with that.
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post Sep 12 2024, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 12 2024, 07:56 PM)
But the limit is 300k per account

Only way to go above is by accumulated the dividend over the years 👌
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What you say is true but what many people do not seem to be aware of is that if, for example, accumulated ASB1 dividends take the balance to 500k and you then withdraw 100k, you may, at any time in the future, invest more $ up to the previous 'high water mark' of the fund.

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post Sep 12 2024, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 12 2024, 08:33 PM)
Previously got yearly statement

Bottom of the page got write how much "quota limit" left / available for that particular individual..

Now still have that statement???
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I did do a test withdrawal on line from ASB1 of RM100 a year or so ago when my balance was well over 300k so available units initially showed as zero. Once I had withdrawn the RM100, the available units changed to 100.
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post Sep 13 2024, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(lim47 @ Sep 13 2024, 06:52 PM)
Aduh.. thought Wana get some since FD matured.. now can't already
Put back FD 2.6 only
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ASMx looks like becoming/remaining the ‘safe and steady’ investment fund of choice.

We did withdraw some funds during the pandemic but I am glad that we kept the majority of our investments in ASBx/ASMx.

I wouldn’t say the good times are back but I do feel that the steady recovery will continue.
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post Sep 13 2024, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 13 2024, 08:07 PM)
Otw to 5% for ASMx for financial year 2025 🔥💪

Dividend would only goes up up up for now... All indicator seems positive
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Agreed. I think not below 5% for ASMx in 2025 and nudging 6% for ASBx. Thereafter, any further increase is most welcome.
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post Sep 21 2024, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 21 2024, 01:18 PM)
I'm more interested in the total units & fund size...

Because many have switched to ASM1 previously...

Dividend should be same...

5% next year highly possible
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So long as all the FP Fund dividends keep increasing, year on year, for a few years yet, I shall be happy.

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post Sep 22 2024, 02:46 PM

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Do we expect ASM3 dividend to be announced this Friday or will they make us wait until the 30th on the following Monday?
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post Sep 23 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 23 2024, 01:25 PM)
And good time to buy some units too...
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Indeed, Tempting to buy more units next Monday or Tuesday.
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post Sep 28 2024, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 28 2024, 07:56 AM)
No one actually knows..

But I just wanted to see if the fund size increases tremendously or not...

And like you said too...

Payout is from income alone or there's "help" from reserve $$$ over the years...
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I am hoping for / expecting 4.75% purely from fund performance, maybe with a bit to spare to ‘restock’ the reserves.
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post Sep 28 2024, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 28 2024, 11:50 AM)
I think is concluded that the performance would be okay with same rates as the rest of ASMx fund for 2024 🙏

Next to watch is March ending for ASM1..
Would it be upward towards 5% or downward towards 4.5% or lower...
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All the economic indicators are for the recovery to continue so I will stick with my predictions as follows:

ASB1 31/12/24 5.75%
ASB2 31/3/25. 5.5%
ASM1 31/3/25. 5.25%
ASB3 30/6/25. 5.5%
ASM2 31/8/25. 5.0%
ASM3 30/9/25. 5.0%

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post Sep 28 2024, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 28 2024, 01:00 PM)
Why the difference between ASM1 vs 2 & 3??

Anything that I don't know about 🤔🧐
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Only that ASM1 is the flagship ASM fund and has historically (pre pandemic) done marginally better than ASM2 and ASM3. Now that the returns are, hopefully, returning towards pre pandemic levels, I would not be surprised to also see ASB1 doing just a little better than ASB2, ASB3. We shall see.

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post Sep 29 2024, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 28 2024, 11:31 PM)
Afterall, we will see the possibility come end of December

If ASB can jump 0.5% then ASM ada chance

If not, better hope for 5.0% and be happy with it grin.gif
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Agreed. I think the important thing is that all ASMx Funds return at least 5% in 2025.

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post Sep 30 2024, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 30 2024, 08:38 AM)
There's few of the reasons I can think of...

1. Fund Size bigger

2. Investment cost (entry price higher)

3. COVID-19 & all the financial crisis / conflicts in the years

4. Unstable / change of Government (4x new PM - New policies after Najib)
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All valid reasons but I still think that the recovery will continue back towards 6%.
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post Sep 30 2024, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 30 2024, 12:38 PM)
https://www.nst.com.my...me-distribution

RM837.89 mil - Distribution

RM820.32 mil - Nett Income

17.64 Bil units

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So, dividend paid almost entirely from fund performance.
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post Sep 30 2024, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 30 2024, 01:25 PM)
????

More like RM17.57 mil from reserve income over the years...

Need help...

Not looking good

Vs others 2 ASM which purely from nett income
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I did say ‘almost.’ In fact, 98% of the dividend was paid by nett income. Of course it would be better to have had a surplus to put into reserves but I don’t see this as being too disturbing.

To put it into context, that means actual fund performance was 4.655%.

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post Oct 17 2024, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 17 2024, 05:38 PM)
I'm expecting around 4.90% to 5% max 🙏

5.1% even better & above expectations... Well Done ASNB & PNB...

Anyway

Now all focus on ASB1 dividend rate end of the year...
Somehow would give some hints on what to expect next year...
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Yes, ASB1 dividend will be an important indication of what we can expect from all ASMx funds next year.

I am of the opinion that ASB1 dividend will be in the 5.5% to 6.0% range and that should pave the way for all ASMx funds to declare dividends of at least 5.0% subject to any significant geo political developments.
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post Oct 18 2024, 11:23 AM

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Duplicate post.

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post Oct 18 2024, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 18 2024, 11:32 AM)
Good for you 👍

Coming from the years of ASMx fund all giving out above 6%, current rates of lower than 5% is real disappointment..... But slowly seems like moving upwards... Towards 5% 💪

The power of compounding is very good, if you keep for years... Last I count... Around 12 years to double your initial investment $$$ in ASMx funds...
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Use the ‘rule of 72’ to calculate how long it will take for compounding interest to double your investment.

Eg: 6%pa will take 12 years. 6x12=72
8%pa will take 9 years. 8x9=72

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