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post Aug 28 2023, 10:19 PM

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Very delicate la.. less than 4.5% then ppl will withdraw dump into asm1.. so it must be 4.5% and above. If 5% then everybody who buy asm1 earlier dump and buy asm2 which is plentiful coz of the extra 5 billion unit. But if less than 4.8% then US treasury 5.x% one to 6 months bond will make ppl bring money out. The safest number is 4.75 to 4.8%.. which is why i say 4.75% to 4.8%. It is not so high that ppl willing to dump asm1 to go asm2 and it is not low enough that US Treasury bond will draw ppl away. And it makes perfect way for asm1 to declare 5% to 5.2% next year which makes ppl won't jump into epf tongue.gif agree?

Today end liao.. 3 more days to go~~ 2 more days till announcement.. yay~~

Btw... Even if sept 1 still got unit i cannot buy as per previous ambition. Just recieve a call this morning saying my money will come in 1st sept but.... I cannot get it until next week sad.gif so sad..
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post Aug 29 2023, 12:58 PM

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Eh.. sorry.. edit.. correct thread. I thought wrong thread so i gonna post my original msg...

Almost 1pm already.. 4 more hours for today... Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Any announcement yet? How much are we getting~~~~~~

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post Aug 30 2023, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 29 2023, 09:55 PM)
4.75
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This one my friend.. not like that that that nexona keep low balling the number.. hmph~ 😂

QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 30 2023, 08:27 AM)
Thanks, tomorrow going to use up my CASA funds to buy ASM using myasnb app.
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Tomorrow ah.. should open the apps already la but if not? Plus tomorrow should be able to swap from asm2 to asm1 right? No more extension of blocking right? Now i am dilemma wanna keep buying asm bor.. seems like very low leh.. epf still better sad.gif i gonna park money in other places soon too.. gonna take a bit of gamble for better yield...

QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Aug 30 2023, 08:36 AM)
if today news good div then faster

if lousy div ho ho ho
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I kinda suspect ppl running out of money already lo. Past two weeks can see a lot of ppl ikat perut already...

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 30 2023, 09:10 AM)
Normally afternoon only...

Need to chill first... Eating & prayers important
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Are we there yet? Are we there yet? What about now? Are we there yet?
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post Aug 30 2023, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Aug 30 2023, 11:15 AM)
but on payday last week damn I went to mall all full

all the restaurants full I was like eh who said ekonomi bad

even not payday weekend also start to see crowd coming back but certain malls are dead la.. like people flooding one place only unlike last time got Sinkie some more
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Economy good or bad ppl still need to eat. The question is eat what and how much.. plus payday ma. Sure splurge. You wait one week after payday and see... Ikat perut de..

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 30 2023, 11:51 AM)
Not buying... Just window shopping & getting free AC only 😆

Restaurant is normal... That's the only luxury can afford for now.... 

To know if economy bad or not... Need to see Hotels take up rates... Especially during holidays & long weekend.... For now, still got rooms... So it do say something...
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I look at the cars on the road. Holiday or not ppl still need to drive and go out get stuff. When the cars are less means they cannot afford more trips or money or gas so car will be less. Only go out when necessary. But this only applies to my place or smaller city/town la... KL cannot use this method. 😂
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post Aug 30 2023, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Aug 30 2023, 01:23 PM)
We are in Penang and the roads, restaurants etc seem extremely busy ahead of the Merdaka holiday.
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Coz payday. Ppl just got paid salary. They gonna use 1 month money in one week.. 😂
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post Aug 30 2023, 03:01 PM

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Any news yet? Did a lot of waste time job including cleaning files and so on... So... Any news yet? Are we there yet?

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post Aug 30 2023, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 30 2023, 02:42 PM)
Dengan ini…. Saya mengumumkan……….
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QUOTE(Ultra+ @ Aug 30 2023, 02:54 PM)
Saya mengumumkan……….4.65%
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Both of you.. fired! Lol.. 4.75 to 4.8% la!
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post Aug 30 2023, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Aug 30 2023, 03:42 PM)
If that is true, I wouldn't want to be greedy. I'll keep the 6% and donate the 0.45% to charity.
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Save the wolves foundation?

4.75% la.. don't argue with me liao..
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post Aug 30 2023, 05:10 PM

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Are we there yet? After office hours already... Balik rumah already... No news?
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post Aug 30 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 30 2023, 05:19 PM)
Maybe it’s such a bad news nobody wants to report it
They are currently having a draw to decide who will break the bad news
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Oh no... If below 4.5% i definitely can consider moving everything to other country already.. lol
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post Aug 30 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(lim47 @ Aug 30 2023, 05:22 PM)
Got benchmark mark FD this year  🤭
Why not benchmark pbb mutual fund
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Scare cannot beat.. lol
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post Aug 30 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Aug 30 2023, 05:22 PM)
Wash your mouth out with soap and water, Sir  biggrin.gif
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That one need chlorox minimum.. 😂
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post Aug 30 2023, 06:42 PM

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Totally no news yet? Jialat.. Must be super bad news that they don't even declare already..

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post Aug 30 2023, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 30 2023, 08:14 PM)
they want 6.6% for special madani merdeka celebration
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Then should give 31.8% for merdeka celebration... Lol.. kidding

QUOTE(brianklc @ Aug 30 2023, 08:15 PM)
So? Does saying that now makes any difference? If u have nothing good to say, and it doesn’t help anyone, my advise to u, just keep quiet
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Boss.. i know we all eager and anxious and so on.. but no reason to turn into a tiger. Ignore and join us chat and dream and so on.

4.75% to 4.8%!! Lai lai huat ah huat ah!! 😂
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post Aug 30 2023, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Aug 30 2023, 09:21 PM)
Guess not today
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QUOTE(MattSally @ Aug 30 2023, 09:29 PM)
Not looking likely, but this year has been full of surprises so who really knows!
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It's a good sign. Maybe they wanna let pmx announce tomorrow so it should be a very very very good news or else they would have announced it. Maybe got donation 1% from pmx gov leh.. think positive. If it's bad they won't let pmx announce already. 😂
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post Aug 31 2023, 11:57 AM

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*very highly disappointed"

sad.gif sigh.. no hope.. so sad... Off the mark..
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post Aug 31 2023, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 31 2023, 12:01 PM)
anywhere to move other than epf?
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At the moment considering kwsp. Was thinking if i should withdraw 2k per month put into kwsp. I am also planning to move money to Singapore next week when my mutual fund back in. Small amount only. I put two years ago in medical fund. Was told how good how good. In the end one year later lost some money and the bank make it up by giving 7% pa which return it to it's original value and they will kick back to me next week. 0 gain, a few ringgit lost but 2 years lost. Last year i was already planning to put to Singapore and that happened. From a portfolio i seen, my friend already got 10% return this year sad.gif so i am a bit late. But right now seems like a good time to go in as well.. so i might just throw it there.

Yes i know there are better places and those fee fee will eat up but i dunno how to do it. And i am too old to be learn and it makes 0 sense when i try to learn. So no choice put to an active manage fund in sg. Over the past 10 years sgd appreciate against myr on average 2% pa. So just exchange rate can boost earnings. And i see the growth around 5.5% so far. Esp past year. So just throw and forget it lo. Like i said.. Small amount only and plan to dump 1k sgd every 1-2 month slowly move there lo. Advantage is exchange rate (don't see how pmx can change or how malaysia economy can change to beat this..as long as they still holding on to certain politics and i kinda lost faith already looking at recent events), easily accessible and very liquid, it's a 3 monthly dividend which you have choice to reinvest without occurring any fee (one time fee when deposit but reinvest is free), better than asm dividend (asb better but i am not prince) and this money can hide from other ppl like parents/relatives/wife/gov. If something hit the fan in malaysia.. at least i still have a small pot in Singapore. That's what i thinking now and i still thinking about it but decision need to be made next week. What you ppl think?

Kwsp no brainer. Higher interest.. less liquid but hey, i haven't touch asm since i have account lo. So no difference parking asm or kwsp in this sense. Not like i need to have emergency need take money anytime soon. I just need to rebalance a bit. Still plan to move asm 2 to asm 1. Keep some amount in asm and large chunk in asm2 (reduce chunk so i get better yield). If anything goes wrong still withdraw from asm2 . And as i say.. maybe 2k withdrawal from asm2 per month put into kwsp. One year only 24k. 10 years only 240k.. slowly lo. Maybe that 2k withdraw and i top up to 1ksgd move to sg.. dunno.. still thinking and haven't really work out a plan.. but kwsp still better than asm2 la.. but it's my emergency + safe heaven.. still will keep certain amount there.. just reducing it coz low interest and right now feel kinda risky esp with certain politics here.. really feel the need to move it...

QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Aug 31 2023, 12:02 PM)
Ya.. if can and willing to take the risk then can go for those you know..

But for us unker who cannot lose anymore.. what's better than ASMs?

Look at those so called good return investments during pendamic.. unless you say gloves lah lol but well I believe those who hugging ASMs are more on looking for stable investment income.. no roller coaster
But.. if my loan int is only 1%.. I could not agree to this.. I will still park the money in ASM instead of paying the loan off
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My house loan 4.2% now after last opr increase. So technically only 0.3% difference. I have a different mentality maybe coz i am old (maybe i am an idiot). I from start put into the flexi loan and consider it 4.5% risk free growth (original 4.8%, drop 4.5%, drop 4.2% , drop 3.8% increase 4% and now 4.2%). I no pay interest = earn. I put all in and i pay 0 interest (all into principle owing for monthly payment) and consider it no pay interest as earning. It has always been around 0.2 to 0.5% losses (compare to asm) but i take it coz this way no matter what happened i not worried my house is gone and my wife will have it rather than the bank. I put in and forget i even owe this loan until the tenure is done later. Even if i kick the bucket it is ok. No matter opr up down left right flip backwards or flip forward, i will know i have my house. I rather sacrifice 0.X% dividend for a secure and peaceful mind.
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post Aug 31 2023, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Aug 31 2023, 12:41 PM)
A very good dividend.

P Mutual has been very bad over the last 2//3 years. For even Equity n Dividend funds hardly .1 sen for that period. And the 5% charge for new additions n yearly fee really make them uninvestible. What happen to the good old days?
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Another reason i thinking about moving to Singapore. Better regulation and more diversified products and more stable gov/economy. The fees are less and the "agent" cannot talk c sing song promise star promise moon write scam on paper no attach to prospectus sell you and run away after get commission. 😂

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post Aug 31 2023, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Aug 31 2023, 09:21 PM)
Friendly reminder

Switching in or out for ASM1 blocked until 31 Oct
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Nuuu... I was planning to switch at 2am.. was getting ready and log in from website and make sure everything ok and familiarize with it.. sekali make a trial it says until 31st oct 2023 sad.gif dammit.. plan spoilt..
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post Sep 2 2023, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Sep 2 2023, 02:19 PM)
Patutlah, i didn’t know about the 2am thing. I still waited after bank open or during lunch time to test my lunch whenever somebody go to bank to sell
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 2 2023, 03:12 PM)
Earlier also I don't know about this thing... Especially the 2am thingy....

I actually tried myself to confirm once.. And yes indeed true...

But this only can be done on Tuesday - Friday

Monday & weekend depends... Most time no unit even at 2am +

But u can try yourself 🙏
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Not surprising. Who so nothing better to do testing all the time until 2am and find out such details :x only an idiot will do such a thing... Oh wait.. why does that idiot sounds so familiar... Hmmm....

Actually before the 5 bil unit thingy, asm1 also can get :x

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