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post May 2 2023, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(stinger @ May 2 2023, 05:28 PM)
5pm just tried with another FPX limit - success  biggrin.gif
bank acc dried up no money go bangkok wet edi ... bye.gif
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Can wet next year after get juicy dividend. Short pain for longer wet.

QUOTE(Haloperidol @ May 2 2023, 05:30 PM)
Since 2018 when Najib fiasco erupted and so many people talking about how AS1M money is being used by Najib as personal account blah3
Until now what happened.
nothing except lower interest rate .

With the fiasco of Tabung Haji, the government even bail out their asset at cost price.
This makes me think PNB Amanah fund is very hard to fall.
And even there is bank run, they had to do announcement , and we can do bank run within the 21 days.
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"Lower interest" is something already lo. It is not about PNB fall or bank run but not "worth" parking money there coz low interest. That is what nexona preach ah.. not me.. i still wake up 2am to buy every now and then tongue.gif ๐Ÿ˜‚
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post May 2 2023, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(MrWax @ May 2 2023, 06:18 PM)
@nexona88 @Wolves

Update: Just tested successful - No more holding limit (109), now can use Maybank MAE to transfer also which few hours ago kept server error ask me contact suport
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Good. So they just holding the unsuccessful units for a few hours and maybe panel bank busy until vomit error.. aka.. do at 2am better.. ๐Ÿ˜‚

QUOTE(anndroid @ May 2 2023, 06:21 PM)
my Myasnb issue till dunno when, my asm3 funds still not yet out for few days...i wonder how long will 5bill last *sweat*
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It should be out tomorrow 1pm.. they too busy handling this asm 5bil unit la.. ๐Ÿ˜‚ and technically should still have. Even first day all high tech ppl only get 1 bil. Today bank ppl base on what i hear here.. 2bil max lo.. human clicking limit.. lol.. so technically still have. But after tomorrow i don't dare say liao la.. remember.. you need 50k ppl buying 100k to finish.. most ppl here less than 10k only.. only a few 100k.. so technically still ada..

On a second note i think they do realize that a lot of ppl trying to switch by force so they might be slowly giving back for this reason. Delay you a day or two tongue.gif just speculation..

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post May 3 2023, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2023, 08:56 AM)
Yes. Maybank one of the top investment of ASM funds....

Cannot sell 100k??
Just go to ASNB or agent banks to withdraw money ๐Ÿค‘๐Ÿ’ฐ
Banks like Maybank CIMB RHB HLB Ambank Affin ๐Ÿ˜
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Wah.. you so rajin here. ๐Ÿ˜‚ I come in look look look and leave them missing for the day, you still around 24/7. ๐Ÿ˜‚
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post May 3 2023, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 3 2023, 06:42 AM)
assume that mbb keep paying 60cent dividend per year,  5 years =rm3, if price drop to rm5 in 5 years, dividend roughly can cover lost of capital depreciation, but we lose out 4.5% x 5 =22% of return over 5 years. sad.gif

im also risk averse but if market crash mbb drop to rm7 cimb rm3 pbb rm3 , i would all in.
happen to see this table
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yes they invest in mbb about 10%.

in the event of market crash i do wanna buy the dip but this asm seems like cannot sell all 100k at once, thats no good.

ๅฆ‚ๆžœไฝ ๆ˜ฏๆƒณ้€š่ฟ‡myASNBๅ‡บๅ”ฎๅŸบ้‡‘ๅ•ไฝไปฅๅฅ—็Žฐ๏ผŒๆฏๆฌกๅฟ…้กปๆœ€ไฝŽๅ”ฎๅ‡บ100ๅŸบ้‡‘ๅ•ไฝ๏ผˆunits๏ผ‰๏ผŒๆฏๆœˆๆœ€ๅคšๅฏๅ‡บๅ”ฎ3ๆฌกๆˆ–ๆฏๆœˆๆœ€ๅคšๅฏๅ‡บๅ”ฎ2000ๅŸบ้‡‘ๅ•ไฝ๏ผˆunits๏ผ‰ใ€‚
https://www.winrayland.com/2023/05/myASNB-R...mption.html?m=1
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Asm is like etf of Malaysia top 100 company ๐Ÿ˜‚
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post May 3 2023, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ May 3 2023, 10:53 AM)
fulltime asnb CS agent @ lowyat forum
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I wanna apply too... Where to apply and what is the pay and benefits? ๐Ÿ˜‚
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post May 3 2023, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ May 3 2023, 12:04 PM)
I wonder whether any of the banks or alternative investment platforms like Stashaway are seeing a large exodus of funds from investors to pump into ASM
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I withdraw from kdi save even before the 5b. If i cannot buy before i would have done the same and withdraw 99%. ๐Ÿ˜‚ A lot safer since kdi and stashaway no pidm cover and they are investment company, not gov backed funds.

QUOTE(MattSally @ May 3 2023, 01:03 PM)
I keep getting a 'Error 109 Holding limit reached' when I try to buy more ASM1 units. I have bought 50000 today already and 80000 in total since 1/5/23. Can anyone explain why I can't go to 100000 units please as I do not understand. Thanks.
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Did you test units and then no pay? Coz those units are considered locked up and part of the 100k. If you do then wait a few hours until they release those units back into system then buy.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2023, 01:12 PM)
wow.. just wow...

the loss amount is quite big sum...
for some people... it's worth 1 year salary  tongue.gif  sweat.gif
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That's my one year expenses already :x
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post May 3 2023, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2023, 02:20 PM)
Huhuhuhu
High risk high returns but this time high losses ๐Ÿ˜ฆ
U no issues...
2am awake & hentam kao kao ASMx funds... Not everyone can do like this ๐Ÿ˜
How your expenses so low?
All paid already... Loans / debt free life... How nice ๐Ÿ‘
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Coz i stingy fella. House portion did some magic. Still got loan 15 years at 0% interest and self deduct from another place that i no longer need to bother so consider 0. Plus i don't have much expenses anyway. Car 2nd hand paid cash. No other loan.. house bills around 200 max per month. I only eat two meals a day. Petrol 120 a month.. That's it.. the rest is like house cukai pintu, fire insurance and car maintenance. So i spend like 1.2k? 1.5k? A month only. No kids, no pets, wife self sufficient (already told her she needs to take care of her own retirement and finances.. i do mine she do hers). I can actually retire right this moment i think.. but to make sure i got enough i hang on as long as possible and let asm compound a bit more.. September will be a good time tongue.gif

QUOTE(joeduff22 @ May 3 2023, 02:29 PM)
may i check with you, the monthly interest will credit to account on monthly basis?
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It is calculated base on lowest monthly value and you will only know the dividend at the end. For asm 1 it will be on March end. Asm 2 will be August end and asm 3 will be September end. When the numbers out, you divide by 12 and calculate "monthly dividend" base on lowest monthly value. The dividend you will only get when they announce and not monthly. One shot give you.

QUOTE(nxtpg @ May 3 2023, 02:37 PM)
is it easy to get asm2 2am ?  100k limit for asm hitting fast ... only kids account left to top up.
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Quite easy if you know the timing. 2am on tuesday to friday exclude public holiday.
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post May 3 2023, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2023, 02:56 PM)
ehehehehh....
stingy  but health important also boss....

good financial planning is the key...

September is ASM 3 dividends.... don't know how the rate would be...
but not really hopping for 4.5% because the previous ASM rate is not sustainable and not really reflected to real performances... same with others funds too
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2023, 03:07 PM)
Flash News  tongue.gif

Bank Negara Malaysia decided to increase the Overnight Policy Rate (OPR) by 25 basis points to 3.00 percent. The ceiling and floor rates of the corridor of the OPR are correspondingly increased to 3.25 percent and 2.75 percent, respectively  devil.gif
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Now confirmed asm 2 and 3 is 4.5% or more already. Yay~ totally good news. This is why i plan some magic with my house loan. Don't care opr 100% or 0% i still paying 0% interest. ๐Ÿ˜‚

QUOTE(Sunsetdeska @ May 3 2023, 03:23 PM)
how does the switching work?
just now i tried move some fund from asm3 to asm1 but failed and show this message  hmm.gif

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You cannot switch from other asm to asm 1 until this 5 bil is over. After that switching depends on availability of asm units you wish to switch to. If no stock you still cannot switch.
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post May 3 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ May 3 2023, 04:19 PM)
MEF and FMM if can they want free labor free tnb free capital and profit not taxable
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And you don't want free money and free stuff? It is not about asking free or wanting free stuff.. everybody want free stuff including me. The question is how feasible and how much sacrifice needed and most importantly how much it will impact me (or you in your case).

QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ May 3 2023, 04:24 PM)
bnm raised opr so that you all reduce spending, bring down cost living and save more money in bank and getting higher interest. Don just blame the bank for collecting more interest on the loan.
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I never blame bank. I always said this. Bank is a business entity, not charity. Thier job is to leech and take as much money from ppl and put into thier pocket while providing banking/finance services with a smile. They have always been, still is and will forever be. The question then comes to "how do you best game thier game?". I very very very very happy and thinks opr should go up even more. The more the better coz then my money will grow more and those idiots who dunno they can afford something or not will now know if they can afford to buy what they bought. If we can reduce 50% car on the road then even better. Too much cars already. Time to repo them tongue.gif

QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ May 3 2023, 04:52 PM)
lol how many of those cry father cry mother understand, or choose to accept this

they just want to yolo to the max and hope Gov pays their bill
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They don't and so they deserve what is coming to them. If the gov help then good, i might get something too. If the gov doesnt help, i am ok also. That is why financial planning is important.

With this opr increase and still have 3 months until august and with previous opr increases, asm 2 should give min 4.25%. Plus the sale on asm1 to july 31st and pmx needing funds, they need to make sure asm2 is equal or higher by 0.1% so ppl who bought asm 1 will not run away. So with this announcement i can safely say 4.5% for asm2 and asm3 is pretty much in the bag smile.gif just wait announcement. ๐Ÿ˜‚ This is the best news so far. Can or cannot also must make it happen as the consequence of not happening is a lot more grave. Sustainable or not leh... That's a future qs. At least this year and next year confirm can. ๐Ÿ˜‚ So i am hitting it while the iron is still hot and stay put.

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post May 3 2023, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2023, 05:16 PM)
well...

personally...

I also feels the ASM 2 & 3 rate higher vs last year....

ASNB is pressured to give competitive rate....

so 4% to 4.25% good... better if can give 4.5% like ASM 1  rclxm9.gif
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Hoping for 4.6% coz they got more time with higher opr rate (most ah pek aunty measure with this). But anything with 4.25% to 4.5% not bad already. Then again, asm 1 forecast asm 2 interest and asm 2 forecast asm3 interest and asm 3 forecast asm 1 result. Historically they are same or +/- 0.1% of each other. Historically la. They cannot have too wide gap or ppl will run here run there and then pek chek run somewhere else. Pmx and asnb will not want that to happen. So technically la... 4.4 to 4.6% can be expected.
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post May 3 2023, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ May 3 2023, 05:34 PM)
up 0.25% but later chicken price float, sugar price up, petrol subsidy reduce... ho ho ho how many 0.25% to control this inflation
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It's like chicken and egg issue (pun intended).

Chicken price float only affect certain good category so it should be able to be contained. It's like what the chicken protester said.. "more more beef". Sugar price up.. hmmm... Still can be contained... But petrol subsidy... Now that's a big killer. Does asm invest in petrol company? ๐Ÿ˜‚
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post May 5 2023, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 5 2023, 11:28 AM)
Surprisingly still available on this 5th Day ๐Ÿ˜

Can buy for those didn't buy or hit the 100k limit yet

Happy Hunting guys icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bo lui la.. i haven't bought anything since may 1st sad.gif
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post May 5 2023, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 5 2023, 11:52 AM)
Well...
If u got the $$$ & believe in ASM fund performance...
Now is your day ๐Ÿ˜€
Probably not going that far.... But who knows....

FD promo rate don't really have high hopes.... Because now u see banks like UOB is maintaining same rate while Affin Avikata up very little only.... Next week need to see PB offering & others how....

Edit:
Flash news..
Bank Islam 12m FD promo 4.5% ๐Ÿ˜
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Not believe or don't believe. No money la. Bo lui already...

QUOTE(bluesky87 @ May 5 2023, 11:53 AM)
Bro, can share what house magic you did for 15 years loan left with 0% interest please? Is it like fully flexi account and dump in money or? Thanks in advanced.
Thanks for this formula! First aim to hit EPF 60k cap then 1m or else jump straight to no. 2  thumbup.gif
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Cannot share. Last time share share they change clause now. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Lucky i signed 20 years loan so cannot force me to go new clause. Plus now cannot be done already. So no point poking a dead horse. Just say i saw a good clause and i use it. ๐Ÿ˜‚
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post May 5 2023, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(bluesky87 @ May 5 2023, 01:38 PM)
Ahh okay. But question, is it the same if let's say mine is fully flexi house loan with no additional charges upon deposit and withrawing, example 500k loan, I throw in 499k as principle pre-payment, then I will be charged as 1k x interest rate only?

Still undecided whether additional savings should go into housing loan or ASM. Trying to balance portfolio between housing loan, ASM, EPF and SSPN for tax relief.
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Technically correct but you need to check the clause in the agreement. Recently they put 75% max to be countered off. Meaning if you have 500k loan.. max is 375k can be paying 0% and die die must pay 125k worth of interest. In this case it's only beneficial to put 375k there and extra 1k for other charges and the rest of it into asm1. Remember asm1 2023 is 4.5% and past performance doesn't indicate future performance. Right now house loan should be around 4%. With opr increase it should be around 4.25%. Almost equal. So if you are tight on money to spread like that then it is better if you don't do it. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Okla okla. Reveal a bit. Use money you cannot tied up to do it. Emergency money (if house loan 4% technically it means you earn 4% on that money but you don't see money increase.. you only see money saved), business money (most business esp sole prop like me needs some amount cannot touch coz sometimes you need to pay stuff and as long as you can put it back before certain date, it counted towards that amount to counter balance) and some money you need to use in future but not now. Like i say, they count monthly but at a specific date. As long as money in before that date it counted towards next month interest deduction. So play around with that date. After the date plus a few days if you wanna be safe, you can then withdraw it to pay off other stuff. Look at your contracts. If you have higher loan interests like 5% then of coz put it there. If you have lower like 3% of coz put into asm. Other than that you can play with money you cannot touch. I have certain amount cannot touch i park there lo. My flexi loan comes with cheque facility so if need large amount i can use cheque from there go out then when i get it before the date i quickly put in. So i do not have to worry much about it. Check if you can counter 100% and when they calculate the interest for next month. Play with it. Unfortunately cannot play with asm coz asm count "monthly lowest value" or else i will have money bouncing around on different date of the month tongue.gif

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post May 5 2023, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ May 5 2023, 04:10 PM)
If one really wants more, he can top up his/her immediate family members asm account to the max. Then few months later transfer all units to himself.
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If you trust them to give you back and they willing to go asnb transfer to you plus rm15 fee...then Sure.. ... For me i prefer wake up 2am and do slowly.. in Chinese "ma yi bang wo".. ant slowly move nest... Aka slowly buy and accumulate. Won't trigger anything from bank negara or lhdn.. no issue here and there. No big movement to be detected. Slow and steady with not much legal issues later. ๐Ÿ˜‚ I just don't trust ppl and gov. Not even own family..
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post May 5 2023, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ May 5 2023, 04:34 PM)
ya that the bad side of the ASM, only RM2k for withdrawal, need to walk in to branch if wan to withdraw more than that.  but overall i think still can put small sum of money into ASM. maybe RM20k.
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2k is plentiful for a monthly usage. If you need more, walk in branch or bank. Safety feature plus it's meant for retirement thingy and not for big withdrawal actually. It is for low risk ppl who don't want money bound or tied up. So 2k plentiful la. Bo hiam (no complaint) already. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Plus it is backed by gov.

Nexona.. FD only insured up to 250k right? So if bank fails you have risk also. Tiny risk. But if PNB and gov failed, your money put anywhere in Malaysia also no use (old ppl thinking and me also think like that). Only arguement is RM jatuh value. But ah.. if you live in Malaysia eat Malaysia sleep Malaysia... Ok la.. as long as gov no fail still ok la....
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post May 5 2023, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 5 2023, 04:47 PM)
majority people dump FD less 250k... "poor" people around  blink.gif  laugh.gif  and yeah. PIDM till 250k

so far didn't see any banks GG... last I think is MBF?? Bank Bumi?  something like that....

if really scared... then pick old school PB... sure well run & maintain... favorite spot of unkers & aunties  tongue.gif
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If less than 250k then put where also not much difference. Say 250k la.. difference of 1% per year only 2.5k a year. Ppl do these so they can set good habit of regular contributions and grow thier money more constantly. In this case asm better liao can coz can monthly contribute 1k or 2k and roll with interest. FD cannot do that. So i believes he have more than 250k. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Maybe he have a few smaller FD la which matures different time so hunting everytime one matures. I know a lot of aunty do that. By all means. If you like the hassle. Asm is a simpler and more flexible option. Kwsp also one but cannot withdraw. So.... *Shrugs*

QUOTE(silentsurfer @ May 5 2023, 04:47 PM)
bro, as much as I would like it to be backed by gov, I don't think it is. Or at least, it is not stated anywhere, unlike sspn. I think even TH can find some article online mentioning it is guaranteed by gov.
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Asm by PNB. PNB do what? ๐Ÿ˜‚ Indirectly la .. if totally no link pmx also won't go announcing the 5B units la...
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post May 5 2023, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(rex82 @ May 5 2023, 05:09 PM)
tomorrow morning 2am, trying my luck for asm2. So far this days, anyone successfully buy?

Every night Maybank got maintenance, need to top up boost wallet for purchase later.
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If memory serves me right... Boost cannot use after 4pm...

QUOTE(ronnie @ May 5 2023, 05:09 PM)
Are ASM funds protected by Govt ?
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Not protected but linked to the gov. So the gov need to make sure it doesn't fall...
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post May 5 2023, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ May 5 2023, 05:19 PM)
so lucky u.
2.04 am try no more unit available
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So you know who steal all the units lo.. ๐Ÿ˜‚
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post May 5 2023, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(rex82 @ May 5 2023, 05:27 PM)
mean i got no option already, i only got mbb acc and boost is my 2nd option. Haiz....
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Mbb can fpx until 100k. Why can't you buy again? Mbb can buy at 2am.

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