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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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post Mar 1 2023, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 1 2023, 02:58 PM)
everyone knows. just look at opr, it's going against what should be done. the reason? we all know.
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Opr shouldn't but we know they can kinda influence it. Going either way didn't matter to me much. But asm? They can just dip hands in meh? Kwsp? If that is the case what stuff is safe in Malaysia. Is bursa safe? They cannot mess with maybank company for example.. Right? I know they can manipulate price but the dividends earning can they touch? Cannot right? If yes... Then really no other choice but move funds out of country? sad.gif The more i read past two weeks the more paranoid i get sad.gif

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post Mar 1 2023, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 1 2023, 04:29 PM)
Im moving the fund to Sg.

Withdrawal done within half an hour. At ambank you only need to fill in a slip for the direct bank in to CASA.
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Bring to sg buy what? Enlighten please.
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post Mar 1 2023, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 1 2023, 04:52 PM)
T-bill

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5277351/+260
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Thanks.. Reading. Gonna read what TOS post as well.. but currently 3.9% per annum only. Not much better than kwsp wor... Maybe slightly beat asm 2 and 3... Asm1 still unknown yet..
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post Mar 1 2023, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 1 2023, 04:52 PM)
T-bill

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5277351/+260
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Finished reading. A bit complicated. Hmmm... But the rates looks lower than asm or kwsp. Only advantage is currency fluctuation and more guranteed by a better and more transparent gov. Hmmm...
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post Mar 1 2023, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 1 2023, 05:41 PM)
Actually SGD has been going up against all major currencies. Would it stop appreciating when it is no longer competitive to do so?
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Highly doubt. They are a financial hub with good governance, good education system, favorite places for rich ppl esp china ppl to go coz of low tax, convenience connectivity worldwide and stable politics and so on and so forth. More and more millionaires moving thier assets there and live permenant each year and they are having more and more talents going there esp from our place. Even higher exchange rate, they are still very highly sought after. As long as money keep flowing in, thier currency will keep going up.
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post Mar 1 2023, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 1 2023, 11:16 PM)
The good old days...

Heck that time ASB also quite high...

Anyone who enter / hold that time until now, really make quite good sum of $$$... Accumulated over the years....

Vs

Those enter late...
Where the dividends around 6 & lower....
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So.. time to sell everything and move to other places? No hope?
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post Mar 2 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Mar 2 2023, 12:17 PM)
Makes me wonder what is the purpose of hiring an external auditor
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Like SD case. To proof they are "legit" but not really legit and they can do whatever crap they want if you give enough pressure. Like 1mdb.. like so many other company. They just want to tell rakyat we are good company coz see see see external audit say we are then ppl buy and when ppl buy they rich and sell. 😂

So is Maybank stock a good parking place other than asm?
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post Mar 2 2023, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2023, 12:05 PM)
Sure have one...

But don't think it's huge one... Like in Maybank ☺️

The company is GLC... Monopoly of gomen medicine too...
Owned by LTAT....
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2023, 12:26 PM)
just for "show" only?  laugh.gif  devil.gif

but seriously...
they did really bad job yo....
sleeping or already warned the BoD... but they as usual close eye since it's GLC  blink.gif  blush.gif
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In our beloved country... You cannot blame the hard working ppl. The good and honest one kena come from behind and punished. Only those sly one go to the top. At the end of the day it is "who pay the most money" and who can be a scapegoat only.

So Maybank good bor?
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post Mar 2 2023, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2023, 08:47 PM)
Well..
From my experience doing transactions for ASNB...

My choice always Maybank, CIMB & RHB...
Quite efficient....
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Base on your experience, how much money do one need per year if no kids no house loan no car loan no student no any loan?
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post Mar 3 2023, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2023, 09:51 PM)
Huh?
So random question 😃

Anyway
Don't have any answers 😂
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Don't believe i know you have a magic number in your head. Spit it out. You have answers for everything tell me master... Don't hide... Looks like news saying kwsp 4.8% to 5%... Asm1 gonna look bad as well sad.gif
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post Mar 3 2023, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 3 2023, 01:11 PM)
4% for ASM & 5% for EPF

probably this the target for everyone to look foward  cool2.gif
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Starting to feel hopeless with such low dividend sad.gif if really such low dividend really can consider pulling out. Very sad.. lol.. min4.5% asm1 or else not worth putting already.
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post Mar 3 2023, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 3 2023, 03:40 PM)
min 4.5% ASM 1???
not gonna happen anytime soon... that's for sure
4% got some little chance if they did some "magic"  devil.gif

probably lower than 4%
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Sell sell sell~ pmx aide/spy and kwsp man and asm spy say so then it must be true. 😂 Wait and see first.. almost end of month de.. will know what soon... First stop.. kwsp announcement!
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post Mar 3 2023, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 3 2023, 03:55 PM)
huhuhuhuhuhuh....

me not PMX aide or spy lorh...

just ordinary kuli fellow  devil.gif

these media outlets somehow pick up what we all discusses previously & publish in their news outlets (by saying sources crap thingy)
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Deny pmx aide/spy but no deny kwsp man and asm spy... We got the rat!
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post Mar 4 2023, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Mar 4 2023, 03:47 PM)
Now that EPF rate prediction is over. Lai lai new ASM rate prediction.

My prediction :

3.5%
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4.2%
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post Mar 5 2023, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(silentsurfer @ Mar 5 2023, 09:56 AM)
sure boh, unker. the bank fren say soon means how soon, weeks or months? i am waiting for bank interest to go up too.
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Bnm meeting march 9th.. 4 more days. Then we know up down or same. I predict up. Coz if same or down then we suffer losses left and right. It all boils down to.... Does pmx give in to pressure and do what is right for the economy or do what is best for election.
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post Mar 6 2023, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 5 2023, 09:54 PM)
Hehehe
😜😊

Even that low rate...
Many still waking up early morning to buy more 😁
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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Mar 6 2023, 07:10 AM)
Unker still feels ASNB fixed funds is a good diversification. Nothing goes UP or DOWN forever.

If you already have substantial KWSP, UT, Stocks, Sgp Bonds, Gold, etc then buy-lah some ASNB fixed funds. Nobody can predict the correct future dividend %.

Many years ago, Unker was simulating my retirement $ based on 6.5% then 6.0%, 5.5%, (total investment), but yearly it has been dropping,...this year is likely sub 5.0%.

In summary, I think a person just have to grow the nest egg accordingly before they become $ unproductive...either working overseas, delay retirement, increase investment, etc. (Rather than finding the perfect silver bullet for investing)

Then, there's people like Auntie, never really worried about future lack of $ nor lazy $, if no money eat broth lor.
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Like this post. Uncle belanja satu stocks smile.gif

Actually kwsp and asnb is very diversify already. Only gain no losses.. just how much. Rather than actively picking and trading and rebalancing, it is done for us free of charge. Leave them to do what is needed and we just need to get some work that pays our bill will do. When the time is right.. retire and relax.

Pssst.. apa good stock and what is the target price ah?
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post Mar 6 2023, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 6 2023, 03:29 PM)
well...
the news did mention operation all moved to tower 118...

so the current office building just there "collecting dust"... might well get some $$$ from it by selling out....
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5% incoming? 😂
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post Mar 6 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Mar 6 2023, 04:29 PM)
I like your thinking. For me, anything above 4% is ok this year so long as it marks the start of continued improvements.
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6% it is then. 😂 Now the talks of tiered dividend started for kwsp so my confidence in asm drops 80%.. let's see what asm1 gives this month. Might need to start planning exit. 😂
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post Mar 6 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(leagueoflegend @ Mar 6 2023, 04:29 PM)
how do you guys invest into ASM 2 nowadays?

Many years back i remember people would go to the website and keep spamming until there is the chance to deposit money, but after they implemented the 5mins it is quite difficult to do..... but im not sure what can i do if i want to deposit some money.... ;(
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Wake up at 2am and use the apps to buy. You got how much money can buy how much units. Plentiful right now

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post Mar 6 2023, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(leagueoflegend @ Mar 6 2023, 08:18 PM)
okay, then either i have to do it midnight or early morning tongue.gif
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You want to get them? Then wake up 2am. As easy as that. You do and other time? Good luck.
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