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post Dec 29 2019, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Dec 28 2019, 07:09 PM)
joshHD the situation is the “hobby grade splicing” is at the zinc roof area....
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QUOTE(birain @ Dec 28 2019, 11:17 PM)
use a 14 to 16 feet folding ladder to reach it or use the upper master room to go near the antenna....the pipe maybe got screw that you need to unscrew before taking it down for maintenance.
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Get a new antenna and cable, and start fresh.
Or else, call an antenna installer to get it done for you.
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post Dec 29 2019, 04:12 PM

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The antenna is a dual band design. The VHF III part is now obsolete after analog switch off. It is possible that the trailing cable is connected to the VHF section
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post Dec 29 2019, 05:04 PM

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The VHF part of antenna looks broken and the dangling cable is supposed to be connected from the UHF section box to the VHF section which supposed to have another box. Since the VHF section is disconnected, there may be impedance matching issues at the open ended cable.
The other issue is the poor splitting to two TVs without a proper splitter. This too will cause impedance matching issues as a proper splitter will have a transformer in it.
A mismatched impedance will cause signal loss/degradation and signal reflection within the antenna cable.
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post Dec 29 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 29 2019, 05:04 PM)
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The VHF part of antenna looks broken and the dangling cable is supposed to be connected from the UHF section box to the VHF section which supposed to have another box. Since the VHF section is disconnected, there may be impedance matching issues at the open ended cable.
The other issue is the poor splitting to two TVs without a proper splitter. This too will cause impedance matching issues as a proper splitter will have a transformer in it.
A mismatched impedance will cause signal loss/degradation and signal reflection within the antenna cable.
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That explains why there’s a total signal loss when it’s raining as if the hanging cable when it contacts with rainwater ?
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post Dec 30 2019, 11:14 PM

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What is the difference between the Pensonic, Green Packet and Botato decoders mentioned on the first page?
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post Dec 31 2019, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Dec 30 2019, 11:14 PM)
What is the difference between the Pensonic, Green Packet and Botato decoders mentioned on the first page?
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It's just the brand...

It's just like, when you want to buy a DVD player, there are several brands available for you to choose from, such as Panasonic, Samsung, Philips, Sharp, and some even cheap China brands that you and I never hear before.

So yea, same concept applies as buying a digital TV box.
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post Dec 31 2019, 09:39 AM

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But remember that the RM90 DVD player that you bought in the supermarket only lasted one year
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post Dec 31 2019, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 31 2019, 12:13 AM)
It's just the brand...

It's just like, when you want to buy a DVD player, there are several brands available for you to choose from, such as Panasonic, Samsung, Philips, Sharp, and some even cheap China brands that you and I never hear before.

So yea, same concept applies as buying a digital TV box.
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Dec 31 2019, 09:39 AM)
But remember that the RM90 DVD player that you bought in the supermarket only lasted one year
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So, avoid Botato then?
It's the cheapest while Pensonic is over three times more expensive.
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post Dec 31 2019, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Dec 31 2019, 11:10 AM)
So, avoid Botato then?
It's the cheapest while Pensonic is over three times more expensive.
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The one on Pensonic site is not Pensonic brand. It is MYTV one which is made by Kaon Media. The list of shops that sell this model can be found on MYTV website linked on the first page of this topic here. I don't know about the other STBs but the MYTV one shown on Pensonic site supports HbbTV when connected to Internet. It is laggy when using HbbTV though.

There might be newer type of MYTV STB available. I've seen some photos on these forums of a STB that supports 4K.

This post has been edited by AV_2018: Dec 31 2019, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Dec 31 2019, 09:39 AM)
But remember that the RM90 DVD player that you bought in the supermarket only lasted one year
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Wahhh... Not every players are like that gua...

QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 31 2019, 11:34 AM)
The one on Pensonic site is not Pensonic brand. It is MYTV one which is made by Kaon Media. The list of shops that sell this model can be found on MYTV website linked on the first page of this topic here. I don't know about the other STBs but the MYTV one shown on Pensonic site supports HbbTV when connected to Internet. It is laggy when using HbbTV though.

There might be newer type of MYTV STB available. I've seen some photos on these forums of a STB that supports 4K.
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The one that has 4K one, is the hybrid box. The ones that supports S2+T2.

I think MYTV just want to future proof it only. In case in the future, it can support UHD broadcasts when MYTV transmits UHD channels. That's if there's broadcasters willing to pay that amount of money to MYTV Broadcasting la. Or else, just watch it on Astro UHD channel 780. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Dec 31 2019, 11:10 AM)
So, avoid Botato then?
It's the cheapest while Pensonic is over three times more expensive.
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Em, Using botato DVB T2 decoder(brought it early 2019), so far so good, other than got a bit of lag. BTW, this decoder have PVR functionality(requires USB Pendrive).

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post Dec 31 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Dec 31 2019, 04:41 PM)
Em, Using botato DVB T2 decoder(brought it early 2019), so far so good, other than got a bit of lag. BTW, this decoder have PVR functionality(requires USB Pendrive).
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Does it support HbbTV feature for pressing red button to access interactive features like news, weather, EPG and VOD on rtm channels and TV3?
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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 31 2019, 05:57 PM)
Does it support HbbTV feature for pressing red button to access interactive features like news, weather, EPG and VOD on rtm channels and TV3?
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Nope, didn’t order it with the USB WiFi adapter...so I can’t test it, it doesn’t have Ethernet port

Isnt EPG part of dvb-T2 and doesn’t require internet to use?

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Dec 31 2019, 06:08 PM)
Nope, didn’t order it with the USB WiFi adapter...so I can’t test it, it doesn’t have Ethernet port

Isnt EPG part of dvb-T2 and doesn’t require internet to use?
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You can use the generic USB WiFi adapter.. Not necessarily must use the one that come with it. I mean generic, it could be those no brand type, cheap RM10-15 type, 802.11n 150MHz type. Those usually can work already.

The EPG data you get, is from DVB-T2.
The broadcaster also pays MYTV Broadcasting to provide EPG data to viewers, as overall the EPG data also uses about 1-2Mbps (that includes 7 days EPG, programme description, etc.) Astro also same.

So, don't think that MYTV Broadcasting is so kind to give you EPG data. Broadcaster also have to pay them money for that too, so whether that channel has EPG data or not, is also depends on that broadcaster too.
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 31 2019, 06:34 PM)

The EPG data you get, is from DVB-T2.
The broadcaster also pays MYTV Broadcasting to provide EPG data to viewers, as overall the EPG data also uses about 1-2Mbps (that includes 7 days EPG, programme description, etc.) Astro also same.

So, don't think that MYTV Broadcasting is so kind to give you EPG data. Broadcaster also have to pay them money for that too, so whether that channel has EPG data or not, is also depends on that broadcaster too.

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AV_2018, if this the case then yes it has EPG
QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 31 2019, 06:34 PM)

You can use the generic USB WiFi adapter.. Not necessarily must use the one that come with it. I mean generic, it could be those no brand type, cheap RM10-15 type, 802.11n 150MHz type. Those usually can work already.
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🤔, I don’t have any cheap no brand WiFi adapter around
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post Dec 31 2019, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 29 2019, 05:04 PM)
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The VHF part of antenna looks broken and the dangling cable is supposed to be connected from the UHF section box to the VHF section which supposed to have another box. Since the VHF section is disconnected, there may be impedance matching issues at the open ended cable.
The other issue is the poor splitting to two TVs without a proper splitter. This too will cause impedance matching issues as a proper splitter will have a transformer in it.
A mismatched impedance will cause signal loss/degradation and signal reflection within the antenna cable.
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So after I left Ipoh, my aunt complained to me that all channel cannot receive all channel

Anyways I’ve already ordered a new antenna + RG6 cable combo that joshHD had suggested(same seller except that it’s on Lazada)
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.ZDOUe

Btw placement wise must it be next to the window or can be any part of the house

This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Dec 31 2019, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Dec 31 2019, 06:08 PM)
Nope, didn’t order it with the USB WiFi adapter...so I can’t test it, it doesn’t have Ethernet port

Isnt EPG part of dvb-T2 and doesn’t require internet to use?
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Ya DVB-T2 also got EPG but the channels have their own EPG with their own design via HbbTV too. Sometimes the DVB-T2 EPG is missing for some channels then can use the HbbTV EPG.
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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 31 2019, 09:02 PM)
Ya DVB-T2 also got EPG but the channels have their own EPG with their own design via HbbTV too. Sometimes the DVB-T2 EPG is missing for some channels then can use the HbbTV EPG.
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that part not sure, but according to the description of the botato DVB T2, it's for watching youtube apparently
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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Dec 31 2019, 11:34 AM)
The one on Pensonic site is not Pensonic brand. It is MYTV one which is made by Kaon Media. The list of shops that sell this model can be found on MYTV website linked on the first page of this topic here. I don't know about the other STBs but the MYTV one shown on Pensonic site supports HbbTV when connected to Internet. It is laggy when using HbbTV though.

There might be newer type of MYTV STB available. I've seen some photos on these forums of a STB that supports 4K.
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What's important to me is the reliability and quality of playback.
Are they all of the same video quality?

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