RM200,000 isn't to repair a house, it's major house renovation at a time when her husband is jobless? Why can't people just say what they really want the money for instead of inventing unbelievable reasons?

Assuming the FIL is successful with getting a RM400,000 loan in his daughter's name who is going to pay the loan? If she pays the loan is the RM1 million condo really going to be sold to her for RM400K?

i read the whole story, and ahha, i know know whats TS's FIL is thinking.

TS FIL actually wants a son, thats why he marry twice and gets a mistress, but no luck, all girls. rays of hope come through when his first wife last daughter is pregnant (its possible a lie that its a boy, to get 300k from TS FIL).

TS FIL must be thinking, no son nvm, at least got grandson!!!

This post has been edited by john123x: Oct 29 2019, 09:32 PM

Using human to do trading.

TS might as well advice TS FIL to do DNA test on TS FIL first wife youngest daughter. if not TS FIL child, 300k gone with the wind...

EDIT: the story very complex

This post has been edited by john123x: Oct 29 2019, 09:54 PM

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Who is the child's to be father you are refering?

mistake, i will edit

Irrespective who is the father, FIL 's daughter is carrying the child. Ada sendiri punya daging dan tulang.

MIL dont buy that nonense for RM400k. RM100k still can bincang.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 29 2019, 10:04 PM

sorry i m not here to give advice.
but i want to comment that fil have to wake up, he got a rotten charsiew daughter.
better fil take the baby adopt as own son, than give 300k and dig more money later. can ask for one successful time, more times will come.

But FIL no money how? Got to do mortgage of 2nd wife property and daughter to pay instalment.

Better the daughter adopt.


How long more can FIL take care of the child?

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That plan by the FIL is already void.

AFAIK, TS's MIL is very angry with the FIL or her husband and now has her own plan. So, she now wants to sell the condo to her 2 daughters for RM600k without letting the FIL know = each daughter gets a RM300k bank mortgage. TS (= SIL) will have to be the guarantor for one of the daughters = his wife and pay the monthly instalments for the RM300k mortgage.
....... After MIL gets hold of the RM600k, she will then divorce the FIL or her husband and likely move elsewhere alone. FIL will not get a single sen out of the RM600k sale of the condo.

This plan by MIL is against the Divorce Law of Malaysia, unfair and against good morals/ethics = the FIL can easily block the sale of the condo to the 2 daughters and/or freeze the MIL's bank account containing RM600k by suing his wife or MIL in court.

The sale of the condo to the 2 daughters cannot proceed if TS refuses to stand as guarantor for his wife = daughter of MIL.

Of course, the MIL can also sell the condo to the open public but this would alert the FIL earlier = straight to court or maybe chop chop.

Best solution is to sell the condo to the open public for about RM800k = RM400k for FIL and RM400k for MIL. What they want to do with their money will be up to them, eg FIL will most certainly give RM300k to his youngest daughter from his 1st wife in return for the birth-name-right of the 5 month old boy-foetus. Whether they want to divorce or not will be up to them. How and where they live will be up to them.
....... Like they say, "we reap what we sow".

NO ACTION BY MIL IS BESTEST.

Have CASH will fight.

I do not know what proof was given to him that it is indeed a boy. My wife, my SIL and me aren't in contact with them. MIL doesn't approve of us knowing or having anything to do with them.

Billcollectors eventually have to pay bills also, no one is ever exempt from bills.

Unfortunately there isn't much I could say I told my wife please don't get involved as eventually it will backfire. She said it is her duty to help her mother.

Don't dream, the MIL will never accept the idea of living in a RM200,000 apartment. This one essentially used her looks to get into that circle of wealthy men. She used to be a model in the late 70s. Maybe I should help her out more too because my wife gets most of the good looks from the mother

Its a bit more complicated than that.

During his better days when he was doing well because of real estate development, he did some funny tricks to pay less tax by essentially moving money from left to right pocket. Basically from his company, he transferred it to several shell companies whose sole shareholder was the MIL and did so on the basis of "buying consultancy services", later on the money was combined into 1 shell company to buy 2 condos for investment. 5 years ago she closed down the company and transferred 1 of the condos to herself while the other one she sold to settle debts. No one knows what those "consultancy service" entails but there you go.

Wedding ring? That together with close to 100 pieces of jewellery he sold them off. The only ones that remain?? The ones given to her by her mother and grandmother because she had given it to my wife and my wife asked me to lock it up at my safe deposit box at a bank.

To be honest, I do believe they are using the baby to get more money out of the father else they know he won't give them anything else.

As for who was supposed to pay, FIL told SIL they would rent out rooms in the condo that would help pay but the last time my wife took out a personal loan to loan him money it ended up she had to pay it back for him. My guess is this woul

It isn't the first time he is making such an offer, when my wife had our son he tried to force us into the boy using their family name, just that I did not allow it and neither did my father.


That's some foresight there.

I can imagine what he will do if he has money now?

For sure he wont trouble existing family.

4th, 5th or even 6th to get what he wants.

I thought I would never say this, but I have seen this kind of situation before, because my father was in a similar situation last time.

What I would advise is, you should side with your wife and help her through with her mother's plan. You already know how she feels about this (i.e. it is her duty). You are married to your wife after all, and your MIL's plan does make more sense. Ideally, it would be wise not to get involved, but if you choose to do so, know that your wife will remember this and she will blame you in the future for not giving her the support she needed at this time.

From what you have described, I would stay far away from your FIL and his first wife's kids. They sound like leeches. Sooner or later, he might even come asking you for $$.

Lastly, I wish you the best in your relationships

will your wife will do the same to you,like her mother will do to her father after all this? they make you as a guarantor after all..the FIL can issue bankruptcy, and provide the proof of payment of that house, you might be in for fraud if insolvency accept the case, its one of AMLA acts.

Dont undetstand the bold part.

Who is the legal wife here?

1st wife? If so, why give a damn... just walk away.

his FIL=father in law
can file a bankruptcy to himself
when a person being in bankruptcy , all the properties in his name and his spouse name will be investigate .
if he can provide proof of payment of the house he bought earlier even it under his spouse name.

To FIL all 3 are 'legal'

Why legality when there is no distribution of assets?

Declare bankrupt and pass all money to Insolvency Dept?

No creditors to pay, then collect back money?