hmm good point .. so is wait our for a tv box which can truly support , get a nvidia shield or get a UHD bluray player or using a pc

was keen on the minix u22

Yeah DV support on the Fire TV Cube is mostly for Apple TV, Netflix and the Amazon's own Prime Video app. IMO, DV tech still has a long way from being mainstream tech. HDR had a head-start on DV and now there's HDR10+, which is supposed to be easier to work with from a content production POV. Either way, I'm still not particularly concerned and neither will the average consumer for now. So i don't blame box manufacturers investing a lot into perfecting the experience.

Yup, just give it a couple months at least if you can wait... All should be clearer by then.

when anyone talk dolby vision, it is necessary to state online streams like netflix or local playback.

as i said, while a few devices are licensed for netflix DV/atmos, i have not come across any box that can playback DV/HDR12.
there are plenty that support HDR10+ playback, though.



the thing is while bluray DVD have gotten to DV/HDR12, ripped media aren't there yet.
so, it may be a premature point now to try to find a box that playback "DV" or HDR12 files.

i am also looking for a new box that can last 5+ years.
not so much for netflix as the new TV i buy will surely have netlfix 4khdr10+/DV/atmos/e-arc.
and the right AVR to go with it.
more for local playback as i expect the soft media will be available soon enough.

so, it is imperative the new box does local playback with native app or kodi app or whatever app:
.. 4k hdr10/10+/hdr12/dv
.. dtsx, ddatmos
.. auto framerate switching
.. bdmv full menu
.. astrogo, unifiplaytv (my most used apps)

i held my hopes on a few potential boxes in 2019-2020... but as it is, there is no such box yet.

so i wait, no rush...

This post has been edited by AVFAN: May 29 2020, 07:28 PM

i thought we can download torrent BR rip 4k DV already ?? those files are huge like minimum 40GB

im using my tv app to play netflix DV and atmos content
just wanna hav a box to play the downloaded BR rip as the TV is unable to process DV rips

think u mistaken DA for DV.

those 40, 60, 90 GB are Dolby Atmos, not Dolby Vision.

General
Complete name : The Invisible Man 2020 UHD BluRay DolbyVisionMP4-HDR10+ 2160p EAC3 H265-d3g.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/isom/hev1/dby1)
File size : 59.4 GiB
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Overall bit rate : 68.4 Mb/s
Movie name : The Invisible Man 2020 UHD BluRay DolbyVisionMP4-HIDR10 2160p EAC3 H265-d3g
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:24:36
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:31:30
Writing application : DVDFab 11.0.8.8


Video #1
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID : hev1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Bit rate : 60.8 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.306
Stream size : 52.8 GiB (89%)
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:24:36
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:31:22
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 249 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 37 cd/m2
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Video #2
ID : 2
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : dvhe
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Bit rate : 7 082 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.142
Stream size : 6.15 GiB (10%)
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:24:36
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:31:22
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID : 3
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 399 MiB (1%)
Title : English (eac3 5.1)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
Encoded date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:24:36
Tagged date : UTC 2020-05-22 04:31:23

this i downloaded

thanks for posting this... got me to do some reading on the latest.
yes, looks like "DV" is getting into some of these rips now.
but are they the way it should be like on discs... and will some box player be able to handle them properly... that's a big question.

the way i understand it:


the info u posted... DV only in 1080p? and color space is "YUV", not bt2020?
i can only guess either it was the ripper's choice or mp4 limitation.

compare with this one (same title, 83GB) - 2160p with BT2020, DV FEL but is still 10bits, 1000nits only.
such rips aren't up to standard yet, perhaps.


a complex subject.... gotta check up a lot more.
but since it is already here, good to keep abreast.
keep collecting the good stuff... a mighty great box player will eventually emerge!

This post has been edited by AVFAN: May 29 2020, 11:05 PM

but HDR 10+ is on

Video #1
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID : hev1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Bit rate : 60.8 Mb/s

so DV is onlu 1080p and being upscale to 2160p?

it does look like that.

then again, rips come in all kinds.

actually in dolby vision certified products, they will read the DV as a metadata stream, the 1080p one is the stream only if not mistaken the DV chip will use that stream, the normal will still using 4k. roughly something like this la.. so even now mkv player also cannot able to read 2 stream at the same time. maybe the mkv need to update to incorporate DV into 4k stream or how. HDR10+ already got but dunno y LG don wan support they say their dynamic tone mapping is actually same like hdr10+.

this rip biz is such.... there are diff kinds of rips by by diff people with diff equipment for diff purposes.

independent box player makers will need time to get it right too.

more so when this rip thing isn't something encouraged by disc makers.

for users, better take time to explore.

i see.. so for beelink gt-king pro or non pro, both also can play 4k hdr10 mkv remux with no issue right? Now i using plex to my lg c9, but the lg c9 app cannot decode loseless hdma or truehd. Does beelink gt-king got plex? or what is the better way? previously i normally copy to HDD then plug tvbox only can play, but now i find this too fussy after using Plex which can auto catalog things i downloaded.

i don't have GTKP, can't say...
page1, voncrane has mentioned it can do dtshdma/ddtruehd with VLC player but not kodi player, which i said is strange.

the audio bit is quite a tough one too.
there aren't many boxes that can do lossless hd audio smoothly.
some can with their native player, some can with some other player like kodi or vlc or mx pro.
this is something i am looking for and have not been successful with most new boxes.
i have been checking a few rm500-1000 boxes but nothing satisfies what i am looking for.
am6, am6pro, minix t5, minix u22-xj, himedia s500, shieldtv pro.
none can do all that i am looking for - bdmv menu, auto framerate switching, HDR10+, dolby vision, dtshdma, ddtruehd, atmos, dtsx.... +official astrogo, unifiplaytv.
i am now using himedia q10pro which is 6 years old, can do all of above except HDR10+, Dolby Vision... need a successor box.
there is this one, which is said to do dolby atmos, dolby vision, HDR10+, dtsx, bdmv menu.... but is not cheap.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4828768

plex... i have not used it but it is a server app... so, u still need some player app to work with it, right?
if the player app can handle the video but not the audio part, it sucks.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jun 1 2020, 11:08 PM

ur requirement the tvbox will be very very expensive

so among the current box am6, am6pro, minix t5, minix u22-xj, himedia s500, shieldtv pro. which would be the best ??

I saw this A95X MAX Plus not sure is as good or not though

well, maybe not.

the Q10pro i have was RM600, do much of what i want, except for HDR10+/DV.
i hope their successor model in the series can do that... price, rm800-1k maybe.
but given the pandemic, no telling when that will come.

the thing is it takes a combination of chipset and firmware to do the best stuff, esp with audio.
most cheap box makers just do video online streaming, not interested in local playback, audio.
some like minix, himedia went the route to do AndroidTV (ATV) hoping to get netflix certification only to be disappointed.
lastly, local playback with soft media isn't very welcome in the DVD world, so.... it takes even more work.

a95x max plus... so many of such... think i have checked it before, not for me.
the moment i read a review that says the box can pass thru core dd/dts only, i will not bother.
worse, most reviews dun even review AUDIO capabilities!

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jun 3 2020, 01:40 PM

if price around RM 1000 above i think i would rather get a mini pc which would provide more flexibility thand a tv box

mini pc is a diff kettle of fish.

the last i read, it's cumbersome to get the advanced video and audio codecs, may need to pay for licenses.

do find out more... anything great+affordable, i surely like to know!

Hey all... The Beelink GS-King X is finally here and here's my quick unboxing video.. Do check it out.. Do sub & share as well as a show of support .. I'll be testing it out over time...milking em for all it's got.. My full in-depth review will follow after I've spent some quality time.. Expect that. For now, let me know stuff you want tried out on it.. I'll endeavour to answer all questions and or concerns regarding it.

in the end i settle for a cheaper TX3 box with AMLOGIC s905x3 SOC which cost me RM 175. so far it could play DV, DA, HDR rips , but like u say depends on the rips . funny thing the rip says atmos, but sometimes it jst show DOLBY AUDIO , but the witcher rip could play DA and DV . Also im guessing it depends the software player too

i have tx3 x905x3.

it can play big files with kodi player, no problem.

but it does not pass thru the advanced audio tracks/metadata; u get just the core.

it can only pass thru dts/dd/dd+, not the rest.

for such a cheap price, nothing to complain.

on the other hand, its brothers tx3 mini, tx3max can pass thru dtshdma/ddtruehd as well... but struggles with big videos.

diff chipsets, diff soc, diff firmware, diff player app... all give diff results.

tx3 thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4722095/+1280