2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV / 1,176 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

1 John 4:1 ESV / 1,154 helpful votes
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 Peter 2:1-3 ESV / 1,085 helpful votes
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

2 Peter 2:1 ESV / 990 helpful votes
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

Matthew 7:15 ESV / 987 helpful votes
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Matthew 7:15-20 ESV / 906 helpful votes
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. ...

2 Timothy 4:3-4 ESV / 824 helpful votes
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

Matthew 24:24 ESV / 780 helpful votes
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

1 Timothy 6:20-21 ESV / 760 helpful votes
O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,” for by professing it some have swerved from the faith. Grace be with you.

Colossians 2:8 ESV / 742 helpful votes
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

Jude 1:4 ESV / 737 helpful votes
For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

2 Timothy 4:3 ESV / 735 helpful votes
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

Romans 16:17 ESV / 733 helpful votes
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.

1 Timothy 6:3-5 ESV / 720 helpful votes
If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

Romans 16:17-18 ESV / 705 helpful votes
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

Dude, if you want to flame Catholicism, you should open different thread in RWI. That is very low

Is is arguement between synergist and non synergist

So justification = salvation?

Answer question with question lol

You cant give straight answer dont you?

So you go on sin wilfully? Is that so? What happened to you regenerated spirit and HS indwelling?

So what is salvation?

So sin intentionally is not sin wilfully?

IMO, that is how most denominations understand original sins, ie depraved nature of human flesh and spirit due to sin of adam

Depraved nature of human due to sin of adam is not the same as inherited sin of adam

Or it is more accurately coin as depravity

Refer to 6 32, it obviously refer to our basic necessity. And go further back, 6 31, it says dont pray for earthly need

Referring to heavenly rest and not god will build you an empire on earth

And dont stop there, read further verse 11

Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience.
Hebrews 4:11 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/heb.4.11.ESV

That rest = heaven

This post has been edited by desmond2020: Oct 14 2020, 10:08 AM

How do you explain strive then, is that rest?

Let go further down to chapter 6, how do you explain this, is this resting?

Though we speak in this way, yet in your case, beloved, we feel sure of better things—things that belong to salvation. For God is not unjust so as to overlook your work and the love that you have shown for his name in serving the saints, as you still do. And we desire each one of you to show the same earnestness to have the full assurance of hope until the end, so that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Hebrews 6:9‭-‬12 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/heb.6.9-12.ESV

Dude, that is called peace, not rest

How much your church pay its senior pastor per month?

Your point being? I am not even roman Catholic to begin with.


I am more concern with pastor who use church money to buy himself a private jet

Hello pastor,

Paying salary to pastor is very different then using church money to afford for luxury lifestyle. Guess you dont have any objection for below

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/africa/p...e-to-prominence


On the civil union, what is your problem. Homosexuality is a sin, it is truth. But what does that do with them having same human right as the rest of earth population? You mean they are subhuman dont deserve same right enjoy by other straight citizen? Which part of bible teach you that?

BTW, what on earth is inherited sinnerhood?

Now i believe each man is only responsible for his own sin. Adam sin cause all human born with depraved nature of flesh and spirit. That is what i understand of original sin


The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. “But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live.
Ezekiel 18:20‭-‬22 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/ezk.18.20-22.ESV