No love for this tyre? In Sabah, which has an already higher price that Semenanjung there is a major price drop compared to when it first came out almodt 2 years ago. RM440 vs 320 for 205/45r16.

I prefer the higher CSC or ECS models.

It’s been couple years now since so has anyone got some feedback on this tyre? Currently running Cinturato P7 ecoimpact and starting to get a bit noisy. Looking for something comfort and quiet for my Golf MK7 with handling not too shabby. Mileage longevity is not so much a concern. MC6 appears to fit the bill. Any sifu who has used them to advise otherwise?

Ps: I went to the shop to check out Primacy 4 and the side wall seems very thin and the price is about RM150 more expensive each for my size so this would be my 2nd choice.

This post has been edited by eter23: Oct 27 2019, 08:40 AM

which size is that?and how much is the mc6 and primacy 4?

225/45R17 just after some comments regarding the real world experience of using the MC6. Any?

Lazy to try that tire coz got other more convincing options.

What other convincing options bro? Can suggest? Looking to change mine 215/45R17

Depends on your budget.
Cheap and cheerful budget: Hankook V12E2
Medium cheap budget: Falken FK510
Good high budget: Michelin PS4

Falken FK510 hard to source.. asking everywhere also dont have. Any recommendations on where to get them?

Here are the prices I managed to source:

Hankook V12E2 - RM295
Michelin PS4 - RM350
Michelin Primacy 4 - RM304
Conti MC6 - RM270

Not sure which one to go for
Hankook would be a safe option right?

This post has been edited by ayamback: Jan 9 2020, 02:31 PM

In mudah got some ads for FK510.

V12E2 in Klang Valley can be as low as rm270. Should be a good enough option. Best value for money.

Which tyre did you get in the end and how was it?


RM270.. wow.. that's cheap. Thanks, will check mudah out! I thought Klang shops already the cheapest (the prices above are from klang)...

This post has been edited by ayamback: Jan 9 2020, 03:44 PM

Actually falken’s fk510 pricing now is so so near to Michelin ps4. I’d rather go for ps4 if the difference is just less than 10%.

I think still 15-20% cheaper, especially bigger sizes.

Which shop did you manage to find the PS4 at that price?

That's for 215/45R17
Shop name is Oscar Tyres in Shah Alam

Conti MC6.

I got the MC6 on the beemer, also 225/45/R17. I can say it is not a quiet tire, but grip and performance is ok for the price.. No comment on the comfort as it is low profile tire at first.. If you ask me will i purchase again? I will go for other options..

Currently on lower rated conti UC6, and its pretty quiet...didn't know mc6 is noisier..

That’s because UC6 is an all-rounder tyre kind of like GY ATM2 and Hankook Ventus Prime3 while MC6 is true UHP tyre

MC6 a UHP tyre, sure will be noisier.

Using MC6 on my civic for over 1 year now. Superb performance on dry & wet.. way better than MC5. Comfortable too.

Not a quiet tyre but is acceptable as a UHP tyre.

Does MC6 has 195/55/R15?

any further comment after almost one year of usage? I am having a conti as well! Should be a costly tyre rite?

not too bad actually... ps4~600 vs mc6~450

not too interested in it though...looking at maxx050+ & f1 sport

oic! you are a petrolhead! me no drive like rally drivers so just looking for a decent set of donuts nia.

Still the same old bising tires.. lol.. I prefer more silent type.. Mostly going for Japanese brand next purchase, looking at Yokohama, Toyo & maybe Falken due to budget..

Uhp tyre is noisy one. You can't have the best of both worlds.just like u can't expect a Ferrari to be good at fuel consumption. Lol.

Naa.. I tried Michelin PS4 before and it is more silent compare to MC6.. But for sure more expensive
MC6 is a budget UHP tires for me but not to my taste. If i were given a choice, i might go for GITI sport S1 that time..

This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 23 2020, 12:38 PM

got another car for comfy driving... so consider moving back to zoom zoom tires...

so far my "research" indicates American tires very bad in the wet... USA is very dry country and don't rain a lot so I think their manufacturers don't place too much design for summer tire wet driving

I'm waiting to put the mc6 on my jaguar. Is it good? For my size options are

1. Mc6 600++
2. Ps4 1000++
3. Sumimoto z3 600++

Currently using pirelli p7.

Cornering good? I like to corner.

Btw conti cc6 is a more expensive version of mc6?

This post has been edited by nonexno: Oct 24 2020, 07:57 AM

No. CC6 is the cheapest range of continental. Budget range.

MC6 is the UHP category

CSC6 is the ultimate in the conti's range if i am not mistaken!

I think Conti extremecontact sport should be the ultimate.

oic!

So cs6 good enough for wet? Malaysia always rain

Entry level UHP, still borderline with touring category.

CSC6 is slightly ahead of ECS. CSC6 is marketed as the global top model while ECS only on certain markets. Based on reviews I read, CSC6 should have the better ultimate dry performance and Continental still keeps improving or developing it while ECS is like half step below but better in the wet. ECS is also more widely available for smaller sizes under 19 while CSC6 mostly only 19 above except on few European countries. CSC6 also more expensive price than ECS. Between the 2, ECS should be the better value for money, and if you're using 18 you can only have the ECS in Malaysia. ECS also lasts quite a bit longer with TW at 340 vs CSC6 at 280.

CSC6 is excellent in the wet, highly recommended but having said that if you consider CSC6, I'd rather recommend Goodyear F1 Super Sport, it's been tested to beat both CSC6 and PS4S in the wet while still about matching them in the dry. If you want to save a bit, then try the Conti Extreme Contact Sport, much cheaper than all those yet equally excellent in the wet while lasting quite a bit longer.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Oct 24 2020, 12:13 PM

I mean mc6 ok in the wet?

MC6 ok la, so far I heard it's decent but nothing special.

Thanks for the clarification. Can consider Conti extreme contact sport for the next tyre change

Don't need anything special. Just safe can dy lor. I had a conti in a mk5 golf gti before. It's was super bad during rain. Then change eagle f1 asym and then toyo t1r

So I just want to know if mc6 is ok in the rain cause the price is good.

This post has been edited by nonexno: Oct 24 2020, 07:28 PM

Which Continental did you have before? What size for your Jaguar btw, 19/20?

At that price range cannot expect too much. It wouldn't match GY F1A2/3 but should be better than T1R cuz T1R is rather poor and outdated model.

Jag 18.

I used the t1r back in 2010.

I think was oem conti csc3 back in 2008

CSC3 should be decent actually. I use a few times too, no issues, can still go 130-140 in the wet.

It was one of the worst tire I used. Was at JALAn tun razak near the library area, raining and the car aquanaut when hit puddle at 50 60km. Changed to eagle f1 then no provlem. That's why worried about the mc6.

Heard contis are very quiet tires but not good grip. Best overall performance I've used is ps2. Best grip def eagle f1 but not as good at cornering as ps2.

This post has been edited by nonexno: Oct 24 2020, 11:54 PM

you have not tried the csc5 and not sure where did u hear from that Conti tyres dont have good grip. I will feedback in a week or two as i had just got hold of 4 MC6 yesterday! big sizes tyres are hard to get nowadays so i went ahead with this purchase.

Personal experience and also from be golf gti owners. Csc v ps2 should have no comparison I guess.

Thanks let me know about the mc6. I'm also waiting for 2020 large size. 275 width

This post has been edited by nonexno: Oct 25 2020, 09:48 PM

No lah, 18 are plenty out there! You just want cheap but good that's why more difficult. You get what you pay in most cases.

I used CSC 5 before quite good! PS4 i got no comment as i think its over priced !

245 and above are difficult to get ! PS4 got plenty as they are freaking expensive! I would agree with you if one has no issue on high end imported UHP tyres! I have issue coz i am reluctant to spend too much on tyres! Just need an average joe to do the job!

Been using the mc6 for close to 20k mileage.. Noisy but grips.. Sides are a bit soft.. I feel abit twitchy though. But price wise to performance.. No complains

No lah, 245/40/18 is a very common size, almost all models have it.Aside from Mc6, Toyo Proxes Sport got at just under rm500/pc, Falken Azenis FK510, Dunlop Sportmaxx 050+, Goodyear F1S are available with still very reasonable prices for UHP around 500-600/pc. PS4 is just a bit more expensive at around rm650-680. You use Mercs with 18' 245 tires then should be prepared to pay la. If you want much cheaper then can downsize to 225/45/18.

I asked PS4 and was quoted RM 760 per piece ler for 245 width! Those brand that u mentioned i asked around and dont see them easily available in most tyre shops ler. Maybe i went to the wrong shops! Its ok la.....i think MC6 rock my boat! lest see how they perform in a week or two! oh....i didnt ask about Good year coz i dont like this brand!

Thanks for the feedback!

Oh why you don't like Goodyear? It's one of my favourites actually coz they make awesome tires and the only brand that can consistently match and even beat Michelin across the model ranges. The Efficient Grip can beat Primacy 4 while F1SS (above F1S and F1A5) is probably the best max category UHP out there, even beating CSC6 and PS4S!

Btw how much did you buy the MC6?

Got one bad experience with a certain series of GY tyres on my previous Jap car . My MC6 i got them for RM480 /piece for 225/45/18 an RM 640 for the 245/40.

Good feedback. Twitchy means? I remember csc3 was easy to spin the wheels at traffic lights. Rain was unpredictable.

Sorry not ps4 but ps2.

Ps2 was good balance for everything.

I agree these ps2 tires are so ex. Mostly last 30000km only

I would put better tires on my car, like 1k per tire but I just bought another car. So this car just mainly drive once a week only. So thinking mc6 is cheap. Got quotes about 2400 for 4 pieces. Back and front is staggered. But i got to spend a bit more to buy a sealant and pump kit cause original is run flat.

This ec6 vs mc 6? Price a bit more

Wah you got chopped kaw kaw la! 😅 Which shop was that? Must avoid next time. MC6 225/45/18 should be just rm420-430 while 245/40/18 only rm550-570! Rm640 might as well top up rm30-40 and get PS4 already.

That one is ECS, not EC6. Anyway surely MUCH better than MC6! I used the ECS before, one of if not the best tire I ever tried. At least as good if not better than PS4 for both dry and wet! Highly recommended.

If you want anti-aquaplaning tires you can get a lot of tire review in the net by just ask mr. Google.

https://www.thetirelab.com/rankings/summer/aquaplaning/

If you look at the top 10, i believe all these model below can be quoted for your means.

Michelin PS4
Dunlop SP Sport MAXX RT2
Kumho Ecsta PS71
Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance
GoodYear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5
Maxxis Premitra HP5

Yes, don’t leave out GY. They are now pricing it very competitive. I’d rather choose GY over Michelin and Continentals. Look at GY asym5. Performance is really not bad for its pricing. And yes, the efficient Grip performance is much better than primacy 4.

I feel that Michelins are now over priced. It’s more of brand perception among Malaysians.

Look at Lazada or Shopee. Sometimes their price is one of the lowest. Another tyre shop that offer good pricing is Oscar Shah Alam.

Primacy 4 advantage is more towards safe braking distance in wet & dry even when new or wear situations, they are going for the safety route.
If talking about grip thru corners, handling, anti-aquaplaning or even silent tires they are not on the throne now. In the end is all depends on the owner which requirement he wants and do some research.

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2019-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

For me i would prefer Bridgestone Turanza T005 over Primacy 4. Dry, Wet handling, wet braking and even noise already passed Primacy 4, losing only dry braking.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 26 2020, 10:00 AM

Thanks

I can see that Conti is not there. The list looks pretty right. I believe in PS4 since I used PS2 before. Eagle F1 definitely damn good in the rain.

However the Conti mc6 is just cheap. Wondering if it's just because it's produced in Malaysia

MC6 was benchmark against PS4 when it was launched..

twitchy ie.. at times not predictable especially on uneven corners. probably because of softer side walls?

hahha...maybe you are regular in the tyre market and can get wholesale prices! I have asked around and PS4 for my size is at least RM 760 and above . I meant around TMN OUG and Old Klang road area. I know Klang is cheaper but the hassle of driving there. As for my MC6, i checked lazada and shopee ler....the prices are not far off. Dont know....bought and using liao.


Yeah...i was told Shah alam and klang area can get good deal for tyres. Maybe i will try GY for my the other ride when its due for a change!

Third day of usage , tyre noise is very minimal! The breaking on dry is very impressive! Havent got chance to try on wet yet.

Continental Malaysia CLAIMS MC6 to be rival to PS4 without data or proof of comparison other than marketing talk, but IMHO talk is cheap!

Hmm twitchy is not good. Predictability is a critical criteria of a good tire.

No la, just quick browsing in mudah can easily get prices in various places in Klang Valley. Lazada and Shopee are never good prices for tires.

Dunno why, but I really likes ur words..It can be a killer weapon. Its like a headshot nia. Can use ur words in kopitiam section sometimes. lol.

Hahaha it is possible to find so called value for money products. I also honestly like to try find those but not easy, need more time and patients, and only down to a certain extent or level, cannot be too cheap so need to set certain level of expectations and more reasonable price level. For example:
- some cheaper clothes and shoes are just as nice and long lasting as expensive ones
- cheaper foods sometimes nicer than those in expensive restaurants
- Hankook V12E2 or Falken FK510 are good substitute for PS4
- Konig Hypergram is a good substitute for Enkei RPF1
- Works BOV and airfilters are good substitute for Turbosmart and K&N ones.
Etc2.

I used the Conti CSC3 vs Michelin PS2/Toyo T1R/Eagle F1 Asym back in 2008.

Seriously the Conti CSC3 was so bad. Wheel spin at traffic light and during rain it aquaplan. While the PS2/T1R/F1 cut through the rain easily, especially the T1R and F1 but they are not very good cornering tires. PS2 was the most well balanced but expensive and wear very fast. However CSC3 is a quiet tire. Good for Uncle and Mercedes drivers.


Conti CSC3
Dry - 6/10
Wet - 1/10
Quiet and comfort - 8/10
Cornering - 2/10. No confident to try. Later end up in longkang.
Durability - Don't know. Throw the tire about 3000km. Too dangerous in the rain.

Michelin PS2
Dry - 9/10
Wet - 7/10
Cornering - 9/10
Quiet and comfort - 7/10
Durability - 7/10

Toyo T1R
Dry - 9/10
Wet - 9/10
Cornering - 7/10. Not so precise but it's a directional tire.
Quiet and comfort - 5/10. Noisy and hard but grip druing wet is excellent.
Durability - 9/10. Most durable out of all 4.

Eagle F1 Asym
Dry - 9/10
Wet - 8/10. T1R better somehow
Cornering - 7/10. Not so precise also
Quiet and comfort - 6/10. Slightly better than T1R
Durability - 8/10. Almost as good as F1

Having said all that, I might end up buying MC6. Cheap ma. Using it for my car I only drive once a week or so. Not sports car but old car I kind of retired but not gonna sell.

Let me know in wet how.

Btw what car you using? Let me know when it rains and there's a water on left side of fast lane, whether the tires can cut through or not.

Thanks

Noted anyway all those are pretty old models so better buy newer models nowadays. Besides MC6, I would recommend you to also try check out Falken FK510 or Goodyear F1 Sport.

how about Yoko Flevas?

Generally just meh tire, maybe decent in the dry (but easy to squeal) and weak in the wet. I'd say not worth it since the price is rather high too. I'd personally choose the new RE004 over this, at least the RE004 is proven good grip in the dry eventhough wet also might be rather weak.

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2019-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

after a week or so of driving, below are my own conclusions.

1. doesnt feel like its a UHP tyre at at all , the tyre i felt is quite soft! More towards comfy side!

2. Dont really dare to take sharp corner without braking as i felt the tyre is on the soft side!

3. Dry braking is impressive !

4. its quite a quiet tyre compared to my previous set! Noise level is very low.

5. cruising is quite stable even at 130km/h and no 'floating' feel!

6. Passing through a patch of water pool at 80km/h is also impressive! the tyre 'cut' through quite well!

7.Steering response is quite fast and accurate !

please excuse me for my poor writing as i am not good at writing reviews.

P/s: This set of MC6 is fitted on a W205 C250 AMG line.

Good review👍

So if it's too soft for cornering won't it be unsafe to go through a corner when it rains.

Hmm contradictory between point no.1 & 2. Vs no. 7. Do you feel like no. 7 relative to other comfort touring tires/cheap models, or compared to proper top UHP like F1/PS3&4/CSC5?

As for no.6, have you tried driving in heavy wet above 100kph on it?

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Oct 31 2020, 03:47 PM

This was in comparison to my previous CSC5 . I felt that the tyre is soft compared to my previous UHP csc5. I dont have confidence in bending sharp corner with this MC6 compared to my CSC5. As i am not expert in tyres, i just felt the steering and the tyre sync quite well and accurate! As for the heavy rain test, yet to have a chance. I did have a set of indon Achilles tyre on my W204 before and i felt that set of tyres were more solid than this MC6. Nonetheless i am quite satisfied with this tyre considered the price that i paid for it compared to the price of PS4. I am more concerned on braking and aquaplaning rather than sharp cornering! Hope that i explained myself clear.

Your experience confirms though what I have suspected all along, this MC6 is more of a touring tire or at best just entry level/borderline UHP, cannot really compete with true UHP like CSC5/PS4/F1. No wonder Continental Malaysia never comes up with real comparison to back up their marketing claims that this is UHP to rival PS4.

from the bottom, after cc6, uc6, is mc6... and mc6 is upgrade from mc5 touring lineage... performance definitely no where near ps4/f1ss, etc... but price is also cheap no where near the top... so ok lah

225/45/18 - p4 480, mc6 450, t005a 430... vs ps4 600

This post has been edited by dwRK: Oct 31 2020, 08:10 PM

Yeah just that during launch Continental Malaysia bragged that the MC6 is to rival PS4.

I scanned through 30+ launch coverage... only 2 publications mentioned rival ps4... maybe is kiss ass "reporters" trying to get free review tires...

Maybe but unfortunately that's the message that was heard widely. What's even more disappointing is the fact that Continental Malaysia still refuses to bring in the globally tried and well proven CPC6 while just pushing for this MC6 as if indirectly supporting that claim!

In fact, local continental still producing CPC2

found this...


and this...


and more... this got comparison with ps4, re003...

225/45/17 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/75335091
245/45/18 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/65920020

hmm... ok shortlist lah...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 3 2020, 12:01 AM

Those chinese technical terms and wordings are so alien to me but from the bar chart the MC6 fared really well against other premium competitors.

A worthy option it seems

i use google translate ah...

Walaooo...... Primacy4 outbraked PS4/RE003

eye opening...

mc6 outbreaked pzero from a Korean test... so results match with the powerpoint

got info from korean/japanese websites/videos too.. but don't understand a single word they saying ... hahaha

My size 225/50 R17, last time I change ps4 in melaka, rm530 per piece, but now like got a lil price hike, just ask around rm550 per piece. got a lil price hike, but mc6 price almost the same, rm395.

got 2 possibility:
1) conti tyres is indeed cheap
2) michelin inflated ps4 price due to its popularity.

Sometimes, its insane to think, same size, price can be so different.gap rm150 between mc6 and ps4 is like a 1 pieces of small tyre. So insane.

Continental if imported ones from Europe like those CSC5 or ECS are even more expensive than PS4!

How about dry and wet handling?

Summer Tyre test candidates :

1. Continental MC6 ---- RMB820
2. Michelin PS4 ---- RMB1050
3. Dunlop Sport Maxx TT ---- RMB900
4. Bridgestone RE003 ---- RMB750
5. Michelin Primacy 4 ---- RMB950
6. Chao Yang Zuper Ace SA-57 ---- RMB620
7. Landsail LS588UHP ---- RMB650
8. Sailun Atrezzo SU18 ---- RMB550
9. Double Star Prtech DSU02 ---- RMB550
10. Triangle Sportex TSH11 ---- RMB450


Dry Handling Test

1. BS RE003 ----- 114.0 km/h
2. Conti MC6 ----- 112.5
3. Michelin PS4 ----- 112.5
4. Michelin Primacy4 ----- 112.1
5. Dunlop Maxx TT ----- 111.5
6. Triangle ----- 111.3
7. Twin Star ----- 111.0
8. Chao Yang ----- 111.0
9. Sailun ----- 110.7
10. Landsail ----- 110.0


Dry Braking Test (100-0 km/h)

1. Conti MC6 ----- 36.4 m
2. Michelin Primacy4 ----- 36.4 m
3. Michelin PS4 ----- 36.8 m
4. Dunlop Maxx TT ------ 37.9 m
5. BS RE003 ------ 38.3 m
6. Twin Star ----- 39.8 m
7. Landsail ------ 39.9 m
8. Chao Yang ----- 40.2 m
9. Sailun ----- 40.8 m
10.Triangle ----- 40.8 m



Dry Braking test (Residual Speed comparison, km/h)

1. Conti MC6 ----- 0.0
2. Michelin Primacy4 ----- 0.0
3. Michelin PS4 ----- 10.5
4. Dunlop Maxx TT ----- 20.3
5. BS RE003 ----- 22.4
6. Twin Star ----- 23.2
7. Landsail ----- 29.2
8. Chao Yang ----- 29.7
9. Sailun ----- 31.0
10.Triangle ----- 32.9

This post has been edited by speedy3210: Nov 4 2020, 09:39 AM