On the sound, is this based on Dolby Atmos/TrueHD & DTS-X/Master Audio codecs? Or 2 channel audio playback?

my personal experience is based on Atmos playback. i use Raspberry Pi for 2 channel playback instead.

so far, the best i have heard for HT is from Oppo 203 but due to the price, i have yet to take the plunge especially with the limited support after Oppo announce the closure of the Blu ray department.

i am very keen on the M9702 but from some chinese forum, they mentioned that the sound quality is still not on par with the Oppo even with the top specs Talema transformer+high end caps. this option is available if you purchase it through taobao.

I will hv to see what can be different if the decoding of the signal is done by the amp. Is this difference you hear with nothing else changed , just the source device?

The only thing I can think of is jitter. Its possible but for compressed audio like Dolby TrueHD/Atmos/ , DTS MA/X the effect is also dependant on the AV amplifier clocks. Still, it might be worth investigating and I will try to do this and report when I get the chance. I do know that the 205 had improved jitter circuitry, but even Oppo's notes says that the effect might be more pronounced for PCM and DSD audio and much more complicated to confirm compressed audio codecs.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Sep 10 2019, 04:56 PM

i think the Jitter plays a big role in the sound quality. i usually use the John Wick 2 catacomb scene for my testing. there are a lot of small details in the ambience for the catacomb scene which is not able to be reproduced by the normal media player.

I will test it to see if I can hear the differences between the Oppo203 Vs the m9702 using this scene. What AVR do u use by the way?

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Sep 10 2019, 09:45 PM

I am using Arcam 390 running 7.1.4 with external amp.

Great to see a owner of Arcam receiver in this forum. Do u adjust sound level of speaker in your amp to 75db after run dirac live? Why not you consider pioneer Lx500, The sound quality is better than oppo 203. Jailbreak version now also very stable.

Again, the sound of the LX500 is better than the Oppo203 for bitstream content, PCM or analogue outs from the Oppo/Pioneer?

yes, I got luck to test few player oppo 203 , 205, pioneer lx 800 in my home in the same day . All sounds & pictures are different . But not every one is sensitive to sound quality, if someone cannot heard different is normal.

This post has been edited by kkthen: Sep 13 2019, 11:47 AM

Thanks for the background. In ur experience, u could make out differences via hdmi out from these sources for bitstreamed content for the lossy codecs like Dolby TrueHD/Atmos/DTSHDMA/X? And the different sources were sent to same AVR...very interesting. I will report back once I can check the m9702 vs the Oppo 203 in my setup.

I can expect video differences for HDR content as the conversion of 4:2:0 to 4:4:4 for 4k content is different depending on the implementation. Also for 1080p content the upscaling to a 4k display will also be different depending on how it's done.



This post has been edited by anfieldude: Sep 13 2019, 12:43 PM

I had this player since March, nice media file player, using Oppo firmware, got it direct from taobao for around RM1.3k

They have released a v3 which comes with built in LPS and better and thicker casing for around RM1.6k

A very good alternative if you don't need android boxes functions but only want a good 4k UHD/audio player

it play DSD files too

Great to have Arcam owners here. i am using Starke A7 for my 5 channel (main speaker using hifi monoblock) and Anthem PVA7 for my 4 atmos. Due to difference in power and speaker efficiently, i am having difficulties volume matching all the speakers during Dirac setup even with the 10db individual speaker volume adjustment. The different of my main speaker vs my back speaker is more than 10db. i am still able to get all the channel to fall into the green bar in order to run Dirac.

even with Umik mic, i find that all the speaker are not volume matched even after Dirac Live. the difference between each individual speaker can varies up to 3.5db when i run the test tone from the AVR after dirac calibration.

If i volume match all the speakers (my front 2 speaker are usually the loudest), i get more pinpoint imaging but it reduces the dynamic of the system by a little.

Your sound system is great , you deserve use high end uhd bluray player like oppo 205 or pioneer 800 for good quality source. I only use single AVR550 for amp. After run dirac live , i got 83 db sound level for my front speaker, sound quality are very terrible. I adjust all speaker level at 75 db, subwoofer at 85 db. This is most correct setting . Arcam auto level is something wrong , need to manually adjust to correct . We got 6 arcam user member , all of us face up same incorrect sound level problem.

yes...i agree that the sound level is just crappy on the Arcam but the Umik helped reduce this problem by a lot if compares to the original Arcam MIC. the volume is about 3.5db difference (max) between each speaker.

as for the subwoofer, i do agree that Arcam sub setting is on the low side. some forum suggest to increase it by 10db as what you have done. my SVS16U was at -10DB when was using Yamaha 3050 and after calibration, the volume for sub was about -1 in the AVR. As for Arcam, i have to set the SVS to -15DB and the internal sub volume in the AVR is at -10db.... :facepalm. thats practically more than 10db differences if you compare it with the Yamaha.

as for the Arcam original MIC, all my speaker started to roll off at 13khz. when i switched to Umik, the mic is able to detect a rather flat line al the way to 18khz below a minor roll off. the original Arcam calibration MIC is a big no no for me.

This post has been edited by Fusion: Sep 17 2019, 04:29 PM

any local seller sell this?

Hi, where you referring for the v3 (RM1.6k)? i heard this box dont have WIFI, but only wired LAN, am i right?

I assume no playback issue for all the Dolby Vision/Atmos, HDR10, DTS-X, DTS-MA, Dolby True-HD. it also can read downloaded blueray folder, right?

thank you

Taobao

mine got no problem at all playing all those with menu support, no wifi

you bought from this seller as well? so far no issue connect to Malaysia power socket, just need 1 additional converter to convert to 3 pin will do, right?

any firmware update after you bought the player?

thanks again

This post has been edited by kskoay: Sep 18 2019, 11:23 AM

Bought from him, when order, just select UK plug and it will fit to our power socket
my firmware is the ver 60 fw that support dolby vision which is good enough for me as my TV cannot support HDR10+
So far no problem at all
Received the player in 5 days after payment, very fast

you bought directly from taobao or through agent? thanks again.