Yes ppl. I got annoyed by the people who read the Claymore manga and been spouting spoilers for the anime after every post.

So anyway, yeah this is for discussion of the anime only. If something not shown in anime yet and want to discuss what happened in the manga, please SPOILER TAGS. Thanks.

Ep 13...wtf la, they still never revealed why Orphelia going around killing humans/Claymores for fun. What is the organization doing? She got no handler? And now she awaken liow.

This post has been edited by wolfx: Jul 1 2007, 04:09 AM

Actually Ophelia made good Claymore as she is very skillful and dedicated. Plus she got IQ, as you can see from her counter strategies. The Organization couldn't be bothered as long she is on their side.

How about the part where she go emo in the rain? Stress kua?

and i regret reading the wikipedia entry before watching the anime ... >_>

LoL, this thread was bound to happen.

What about Teresa?

Ophelia just doesn't care about his comrade or humans. Killing people is a fun thing to do for her, so having fun is all she wants.

And about why she got no handler. IMO, that was planed by the organization at that time only, other time I do not know( might be when she notice that her handler is not there, then kill all she wants ). Maybe they want to execute Clare cause she had 1/2 awakened, so the job is perfect for Ophelia since shes on drugs for Awakened ones.

you can just tell this in the original Claymore thread. Even if you give permission of them telling spoiler when using spoiler thread, the existance of that spoiler beats the original purpose of this thread.....

If its revealed later then its fine. But as of ep 13, its still not revealed and this is lousy plotting IMHO.

If that were the case, they should've let Teresa alone too. But look what happened. Single digits killed or di-cacatkan, and one turned into Awakened Being. Rugi teruk or not, for hunting Teresa?

And the big plot hole as of now is The Org. The Org seems to be the one profitting from the Yoma outbreaks and Awakened Ones seem to be allowed to happen by them. I mean you go around wasting your resources to hunt a Claymore who has killed a human under unforeseen circumstances then end up getting an Awakened Being. This is either very stupid of them or the plot is too obvious and points to them being the evil ppl.

Keep this a non spoiler thread. If they do reveal stuff in the manga, and you feel compelled to share, put them in spoiler tags.

Nana Mizuki will be voicing one of the future characters in episode 15. A character called Riful.

True. But I did told them to use spoiler tags when needed. Some will put up the spoiler tag, few days later no more spoiler tag. And some will argue that the spoiler tag is not needed. Thus, making me lazy to argue about it.

Seriously, is it that hard to clicky on the spoily tagy twicey?

My speculation is the Organization is more sinister than what it seems. But just a speculation, nothing else.

Certain turnover rate of Claymore is desirable because someone who is on the frontline too long will know Organization modus operandi and setup well. A secretive organization do not like the idea that their agents knew them too much. It reminds me of KGB and more close historical counterpart, the Knights Templar who later on become the Freemasons. KGB for overwhelming Big Brother feel and warrior monk like creed similar to the Templars while making money at the same time.

Theresa resigned herself to work for her boss despite knowledge that periodically villages that did not have $$$$ will not have a chance in hell to get rid of Yomas. She said it herself in the anime so it does reveal the sinister extend of the Organization. In new sidestory chapter of Claymore manga, she said it again.

Ophelia fits the shoe well as she is so obsessed of hunting down Awaken Beings and Yomas, disregarding the big picture. Plus her constant negative mental state will one day tripped and she will be Awaken. Perfectly fine for Organization since she is useful for a while and has a predictable expiry time despite being a very powerful no 4. It is her failure to rein in her anger and it is compounded by the fact she was defeated by unknown opponent which galled her fragile self worth even more. Her self worth is defined by her victories and Awaken Beings kill score. Undoubtedly it gave her an extra edge in her obsession to kill Yomas and Awaken Beings but when it went all wrong, she blame her failure on others and become out of control. Lack of empathy, unreasonable hatred and dissonance of blame are good candidates for negative mental state overflow which cause her to tip over the edge.

Claymore emotional state is big factor in controlling their demonic urges, Ophelia maybe a very skillful warrior with good IQ but her EQ absolutely sucked. Of course the Organization don't give a shit about her lack of EQ as long as she is on their side.

Miria/Millia did not fit in well since she is probing too much into the Organization and it is just an "accident" she is assigned to lead the group that encountered the male Awaken Being consisted of other troublesome Claymores. In this scenario the Organization wins both ways since if they lose, they will get rid themselves of unwanted Claymores and if they win, they remove an Awaken Being then get paid for it too.

Claire has stable emotional state ever since Raki come into the picture and she do have Theresa inside of her so she represent the unknown factor which the Organization really worried. She has no definite expiry date and her abilities is hard to be classified since she is an unknown quality as a warrior. Even Galatea is bit shocked when Claire actually can detect her presence and she must be wondering who is this no 47 that actually can sense her at such range. For the Organization she is a " dan lain-lain" element and must be dealt with.

Oh by the way, the sidestory chapter of Claymore rocks. More Faint Smile and new Claymore, Rosemary.

This post has been edited by Stormy001_M1A2: Jul 1 2007, 03:41 PM

clare quite weak

but i lup her more i like weak girl

Dude that's not speculation. Its OBVIOUSLY FISHY at this point.

Wah lew you talk as if Freemasons Knight Templars and Illuminati are confirmed to be real. But as it is yeah they don't want their Claymores to know too much it seems and if they have outlived their usefullness they will be gotten rid off. Seems like they are quite expendable as well and easily replaced.

Geh the rest hopefully the anime will deliver. Cause right now i feel the whole Organization plot is too silly.


This post has been edited by wolfx: Jul 1 2007, 10:53 PM

I dont know if you consider this a spoiler or not, but reasons for Ophelia being so hellbent on killing Awakened Beings will be revealed in the next episode. It will have something to do with her brother, if you remember how she was mumbling about him shortly before she awakened.

And as for the Organisation, well, more of that to come in the later episodes. Wont spoil much here since this is the anime thread after all. XD

Heheheheh to me, Knights Templar + Gnosticism = Freemasons.

Lets see. Making lil girls into demons, mostly against their will (as gleaned from Clare's statement that she's the first and only person to become a Claymore willingly). Hiding the truth about male awakened beings (i.e. saying in the earlier episodes that only girls could be claymore when it is in fact due to males willingly becoming awakened that prohabits using them).

Yup, nothing fishy about the organization.

I wouldn't say it was against their wills, but more like the Organization had to pickup all these girls whose families have been killed by Yoma thus having a deep hatred for Yoma and who also don't want to be like them.

The difference with Clare was, Clare was the only human that travelled with a Claymore and accepted by one. Thus she knew how they work and what was their mission. (most humans are as afraid of Claymores as they are of the Yoma) In knowing this, when her companion is killed, she went to find an Org agent and ask him to make her into one, as opposed to the Org having have to collect girls who have no idea what Claymores really are. But the girls would have to wililngly fight for the Org due to their common hatred for Yoma.

When I started watching this, my first thought was. Wow violent and plotless. Fighting is inimaginative and the plot is monster and er. pretty girls


But as the show goes on, I find that, well Its not half bad. There is a history in there. An underlying story that is slowly oozing out. Its nice. But not really THAT nice. Maybe because i was pampered by Darker then Black

They never referred themselves as Claymore, it is nicknamed used by humans in the story since they carry massive swords.

their sword itself is call claymore...according to wiki The name claymore is thought to be from claidheamh mòr-a Gaelic term meaning "great sword". However, another theory suggests it comes from claidheamh da lamh, literally "two-hand sword." Claidheamh is ultimately cognate with Latin gladius. As such the use of the term 'claymore' for the two-handed sword is considered debatable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claymore

btw....epsd 14 from eclispe edy release...i am dlding now!

Thanks for the heads up death_nite.

Its acctually quite touching how Ophelia got killed by Clare and Ophelia's ill fate was quite touching.

Someone make a good observation of Ophelia in another forum:

A little more of my thoughts on Ophelia, as brought up a couple episodes back.

She's a sadistic, evil, monstrous little creature, caring only for her own enjoyment and the pain she can cause others. That's not why I like her.

The anime version was more limited in some of its presentation, though what it did show it showed beautifully. The point that I think finally drove home exactly who Ophelia was, for me, was her simple declaration of, "You won." Those two words finally crystalized an understanding of her seemingly meaninglessly sadistic nature.

Someone commented an episode or two ago that it was unusual to have such a vicious antagonist whose sadism seemed to have no purpose other than simply the act itself. It wasn't for power, or revenge, or torture or whatever. It was simply causing pain for the sake of causing pain. What I saw was that there was actually a purpose behind it, even if she was not consciously aware of it.

I've noted before that our two 'evil' characters so far have extremely childlike personalities. Priscilla is the epitome of righteous magical girl; Ophelia wants to play games. Even Clare herself is still heavily tied to her younger self, of the time she had with Teresa. The parallels being drawn seem to be deliberate. The children of this world are the most vulnerable, at every level.

At the physical level, they are the most susceptible to being killed by the pervasive plague of yoma. Even adults have almost no way to defeat them, and children have no chance at all. They are also in the worst position as survivors of such attacks since the adults will mistrust them, and can't be relied on to help them survive.

At the social level, those who have survived such attacks are taken in by this world's "Health and Welfare Bureau", the Organization. Rather than being cared for, however, they are turned into half-monsters themselves, forced to endure the pain of the transformation, sent out to kill, and knowing that no one considers them human anymore. Sooner or later they will either die in battle, or become the very monsters they fight and caused them to become what they are.

And at the metaphysical level, they seem to be the most vulnerable to turning into the monstrosities they fight, Awakened Beings. It is the human mind that keeps that at bay, and the childlike minds don't seem to have the proper type of strength of will to hold onto their humanity.

Thus we return to Ophelia. She wants to play a game. More importantly, it's implied that this is normal behavior for her. She kills and inflicts pain in numerous ways, and disposes of the evidence to keep from being punished, all in the name of playing a game, a game where she sets the rules. The rules are unfair, the dice are loaded, and the penalty for losing is death.

What she wants, however, is someone with whom she can play a game, who will win.

Consider how she plays with Clare. She taunts and teases, but doesn't kill directly. She uses every trick she can think of that any enemy might use against you. Are you afraid? She'll play on that fear. Do you care about someone? She'll use him as leverage against you. Are you an offensive type? She'll take advantage of the weaknesses of that type (inability to easily heal/regenerate). Any special techniques? She's very good at analyzing and countering those abilities.

Every possible weakness an enemy could exploit, Ophelia will try to use against her fellow 'player', trying to force their limits, and find the point they will break. As long as Clare could keep finding ways out of the traps Ophelia set, Ophelia kept pushing her. When Clare was out of tricks, and unable to continue fighting, only then did Ophelia get bored and was prepared to kill her.

Yet, even though Clare was out of tricks, out of strategy, and unable to fight, she never broke. She never gave in. She kept trying to find a way.

Fast forward to after the Quick Sword training. Clare had gotten faster and stronger. Perhaps strong enough to be worth testing one more time. This time it was a test of her inner self, the part that holds back the beast, that keeps her from awakening. Yet another set of unfair rules, rules Clare -could- have ignored in order to dispatch Ophelia, as Ophelia herself noted. Clare, however, stayed within the rules of the game, perhaps as much to test herself as to let Ophelia test her.

And Ophelia wanted her to win. This was her last chance to find someone who -could- win. She wouldn't skimp on the rules, because the rules were important. But that inner part of her, the child that knew what she was trying to find, could encourage Clare just enough to get her over the top.

Why was she trying to find this person? While Ophelia was #4, she was also a very competitive person. If it was possible for her to gain a higher rank, she would have tried. She also probably knew that #5 (Raphaela) was stronger than she was. She loved killing Awakeneds, but her true goal was Priscilla. She had to know, then, that she had no chance of actually beating Priscilla.

She had to find someone stronger than herself, not just physically (as 1/2/3/5 would be), but mentally and strategically. Beating someone in a straight-up 'fair' fight is easy. Priscilla didn't play fair. Ophelia had to find someone who could play a game with completely unfair rules and still win.

The child that is Ophelia, the child who wanted her brother back, the child who wanted revenge on his murderer, the child with such a keen mind, even if twisted over the years, the child who just wanted to play some games, that is the one that I care about, and I will miss.

His second post

More thoughts on Ophelia. This is more speculative than analytical, with a number of points that I can't directly prove.

I think that Ophelia had already given up any hope of defeating Priscilla before she ever met Clare. The carelessness of her fight with the Awakened was not her being overpowered, but rather her being lazy or uncaring of the outcome. She was, at that point, already on a suicidal path.

Recall her words from Miria's flashback, regarding Miria's ability to fight multiple opponents. I believe that at that time she was still 'testing' herself, willing to take any opportunity to fight an opponent that would allow her to determine if her skills were good enough to fight Priscilla.

Ophelia appears to be an excellent tactician. It's likely the primary reason she rose to rank 4. That gift, however, allowed her to recognize an unwinnable fight. There was some point after her encounter with Miria when she found she would never be good enough.

High probability: She keeps track of all Awakened hunts. Secondary probability: she keeps tracks of those who go on such hunts to scout for a possible 'successor' (even if she wouldn't readily acknowledge that). She had already encountered Miria and knew she had a potentially fatal weakness. She was likely aware of Helen and Deneve in a general sort of way, and had enough experience to easily pick apart their weaknesses. What caught her attention, however, was a rank 47 warrior going on such a hunt, and returning alive. The report would likely at least indicate that this warrior performed adequately, even if details were left out.

This was something completely out of left field, and probably quite intriguing to Ophelia. It would not take much digging to determine that she was the product of the infusion of Teresa (though that information isn't a necessary presupposition to further speculation), and considered a failure. However the fact that she was both assigned to and survived an Awakened hunt might lead Ophelia to take a chance on her.

To a tactician, people become predictable, and warriors even more so. However this 'Clare' person could very well be something different, unusual. Interesting.

The assignment of Clare to the hunt with Ophelia is very odd. Instead of the usual group of 4, there were only 2, and Ophelia claimed (correctly) that she could have handled it herself. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for the Organization to assign Clare to such a hunt, especially against an Awakened more powerful than the one she fought before. The only conclusion is that someone must have specifically requested it. [Edit: Well, there is the alternative "plan to kill both troublemakers off" theory.]

The only one who could conceivably have done so is Ophelia herself (probably through her handler). Rubel might have done so, but he is far too meticulous. He would have arranged for another standard group of 4 against progressively more difficult opponents, not paired with a single, unstable Claymore.

Ophelia, having failed to be strong enough herself, and having failed to find a strong enough candidate among the 'normal' Claymores, is grasping at straws to find someone suitable. Her own failure worsens her mental instability. She no longer cares if she lives or dies, and she honestly no longer has any real hope. She has slipped fully into her 'game' mode by the time she meets Clare.

Thus she is hanging onto her humanity by a mere thread during this arc, and her encounter with Ilena breaks that. Her psyche snaps, and she finally succumbs and becomes Awakened. However, being in 'game' mode, her grasp of reality is still loose, and she's unaware of what happened.

When she finally realizes what happened, enough of her true self pulls together to put on one last test - one last game - for Clare. Clare winning the game that she herself could not allowed Ophelia to at long last rest easy, knowing there was another there to fight in her stead.

Pretty good read.

Claire with Theresa yoki sensors, Irene/Ilena's Quicksword arm and Ophelia's manifest. She sounds like a bearer for some of her most powerful comrade in arms. Talk about adaptability and flexibility. Claire is like a tabula rasa, waiting to be fitted with good parts that maybe someday enable her to take on Priscillia face to face in mortal combat.

The problem being a tabula rasa, she has no unique ability of her own as much it is source of her great strength.

Now that is hallmark of a potentially good warrior.

PS: Tabula Rasa in this context means clean slate from Latin, not part of the tongue in BM.

This post has been edited by Stormy001_M1A2: Jul 5 2007, 11:30 AM

Very interesting article indeed did you write this yourself or adopted it from somewhere else?

Very good read. Highly analytical and to the point. However, the ending of episode 14 ...



Anyway just my theory.

Italics is exact copy, bold is my input.

I think Ophelia is still useful for her bosses, so I don't see her as "problem child" from her handler's point of view.

Gahhhh. I can't download due to crappy indonesian internets.
>_<

You are a Indon?

No.....i'm currently on a project here.

Despite all the psycho-analytics on the mental state of Ophelia posted by Stormy, i still feel the Ophelia arc is convoluted and has totally no meaning and bearing to the story except as a plot device for Claire to gain her new ability, the Flash Sword. Alot can be read about Ophelia's sadistic tendencies and if i bothered, I can write a very long essay about why Ophelia is like that as well. But the jist of the matter is, Ophelia was just a plot device, and the mangaka either didn't bother to develop her story or maybe he did later in the manga and I don't know cuz I didn't read it.

Consider that nobody found it odd that Ophelia was able to kill humans and get away with it. She even preyed on weaker Claymores to make them awaken so she had reason to kill the Awakened Beings she so loved to kill. We only see her messing with Clare, trying to get her to awaken but that never happened much to her dismay. God knows how many other weaker Claymores she already killed in this way. (story never bothered to mention about this either) I'm abit disappointed with what little role Miss Ophelia played.

Anyway episode 14 made me slightly interested as it gives more clues to what the Organization is planning. Why is Raffaela (Rafflesia?) no. 4 despite being hinted to be very powerful? Irene was the former no. 3 and she admits to Rafaela that she would never stand a chance even if she had both arms. I hope she doesn't die. Why the grinning shot of Clare's handler? Did he expected this to happen? Hmmm.

My theories on where the series is going:

The Organization's goal is to create "the perfect being", that is a person who can "awaken" but yet retain their human selves and if posibble don't get human guts fetish as well. Yomas are the by products of this research, being the weaker monsters that prey on humans but still controllable by the Claymores. People are told that the Yoma are demons who kill humans and then take on the form of those they have killed, but possibly the fact is Yoma are humans, just like Claymores were humans. The Org probably spread some yoma virus to selected people so they will lose their humanity and become Yoma. Claymores that become Voracious Eaters/Awakened Beings are of no use to the Org as they are considered "failed experiments" to achieve the perfect being, and thus are disposed off. Claymores who kill humans are also considered "failed" because by hurting humans, they are considered no longer subservient to the Org. The Org wants the perfect being that can be controlled by them, not a rogue Claymore that cannot be controlled and won't listen to the Org.

And thus was born the ranking system of Claymores. I'd reckon that the path to the perfect being is near, and all the Org requires is the perfect subject that shows that she can control her hunger to eat human flesh as well as retain her humanity. A pool of 47 (it might've been a bigger number in the past) Claymores are created and they are ranked according to ability. Claymores die and are replaced constantly. The Org's goal to the perfect being becomes ever closer with Claymores becoming stronger as each generation passes, and the weak ones are discarded from the "gene pool". Later on, there may be a battle royale of Claymores or a big cataclysmic battle will happen where either they fight amongst themselves or awakened beings until only THE ONE will survive. And i'm sure i don't have to assume that this ONE will be Clare. Theresa was probably as close as they can get to having their perfect being, but sadly she wasn't as subservient to the Org as they would've liked. Perhaps Clare was an experiment in hopes that she will carry on Theresa's legacy that's why they agreed to "put Theresa into her" whatever that means.

Also remember the slasher arc, all the Claymores there have "reversed" their awakening process and thus are slightly stronger than the average Claymore. They were sent to kill that Awakened Being probably as a test, contrary to Miria's theory that they were considered "troublesome" by the Org. All of the Returned Claymores (i'll call those that reversed the awakening as Returned) that were sent to that AB were killed until Clare's group was sent. That's what surprised that scary handler dude, that probalby one of them in the group is the person they are trying to accomplish.

Why they want to achieve this perfect being? Can be any reason. To bring forth the apocalypse? World domination? To make yoma as the new supreme race on the planet? Pick any cliche plot out there.

This post has been edited by wolfx: Jul 7 2007, 05:59 PM

Raphaela is mysterious Claymore. Hard to say what kinda motivation she has for her being.

Ophelia managed to push Claire to limits of her ability and also set the stage for Claire acquiring Flash Sword. In twisted way, she actually mentored Claire in finer points of being a warrior. However the payment for her tuition is your life which is bit tad too expensive.

I'll be interested to know Rafaela's story.

Also strange....i thought Claymore's naked bodies are supposed to be so turn off that it will make your lil bro shrivel up immediately. Probably wrinkled boobs or big scar between the boobs or something, as hinted by Theresa when she was getting raped. But Ophelia seemed fine.

during #13, while claire was fighting ophelia:
ophelia said that claire is an offensive type claymore, so she cant regenerate her body back, hence the lost arm + scars. While ophelia is the defensive type, hence a "fine" body

i like offensive claymore on bed

*hinting on clare *

Ohh yeah did Clare got rape by that bandit that wanted to rape theresa or did she get rape by the bandit then before theresa come to her rescue?

You are a fan of DoW too?

any way back to the story of claymore, I thought that bandit that wanted to rape theresa said that clare was shouting out theresa's name when he ahem ahem and that that made theresa mad, but I wonder if he'd made it up.

Fan of Warhammer 40k. Played abit of DoW too before they dumbed it down with the recent expansions.

Dunno lah. Have to rewatch that part. If kena rogol also as someone said, kena rogol by yoma already. Bandit no feel.

U didn like the expansions?

But she is still a gal then not a claymore.

I forgot 1 point also prolly cos she is only 1/4 youma?

I am now an officially poisoned claymore fan.

After watching 10 series in one go...I'm poisoned.

whao. 10 series lol

LoL I guess thats in his world, he has seen 10 series.

10 eps or 10 series?

I actually rewatched Claymore and found that I had ep 6 missing! OH NOES! Redownloaded and now it makes more sense. LoL I was wondering when the hell Teresa actually killed humans.

Anyway, when Claire got herself injured in ep 2, and her handler handed her new clothes, he did comment on her wounds. One was the stomach wound from the yoma and another was some sort of older wound. So I'm guessing that all Claymore's have this wound and its covered by the black cloth that has their emblem on it. So considering that, the wound doesn't seem to be a big one but it should look ugly judging by the small Claire's expression on ep 6. Back to ep 2, Claire's handler did also mention about their weak spot. One could surmise that the old wound that is covered by the black cloth is the Claymore's weak spot.

That wound could also be the origin of the amalgamation between human and yoma flesh.

I think the future eps will be quite interesting as we see more of Claire's power blossoming. As an unknown her potential seems to be limitless. Partly because right now she has Teresa and Irene as part of her.

I think he means 10 series prolly its his own version of claymore.

Well I think in the anime they've already show that she has defeated number 4.

10 series = 10 eps lor...typo typo

LoL hahahaha

ep 15 is out

Goin to watch today since its sleeping time.

Episode 15 was awesome. At last get to see Riful of the West. Was expecting a cute voice from the actress but not bad.. Thought they are going get someone with the voice like Shinku from Rozen Maiden to sub the voice. lolx.. Awesome.. Can't wait for next episode..

Omg I can't wait for next episode! Its going to be butt kicking time.

Have a question here ... which chapter is the anime at currently for the manga? Also, how aligned is the anime to the manga?

After watching epi15 ( awesome btw ) i have the urge to get vol.1 - latest ...

Its in Volume 8, you wont regret it. But then again, I think you will. After finishing all the vols and chaps, you surely will be in a addiction-mode state asking for more and cursing the slow release of its manga.

Anything about the manga, discuss it at the manga thread lol.

This post has been edited by Gxen: Jul 12 2007, 11:27 PM

cant wait to c next epsd n the
the fight scene sure very2 interesting larr....

Mizuki Nana's Riful is so innocent yet sadistic. I like.

Megumi Hayashibara....wheeee....

this anime look interesting. will check it out !

Eh? I didn't know megumi hayashibara is also in the cast . Which one is her?

Mistaken. Its Kotona Mitsuishi as Jeanne, seiyuu for Misato from NGE. Seeing Claymore will have many more chars coming on, i won't be surprised if megumi will be casted.

megumi haya something is yet to be casted. Looking at the rate Claymore uses famous female VAs, I won't be surprised she will be in.

Heh, thats the problem of reading the manga.

Go ahead you'd not regret it, for me I did not.

Well its best to leave it for 1/2 a year and then have a Claymore sweep again.



Does it mean that you are sadistic too?


Whats VA?

I'm guessing VA is Voice Actor.

This post has been edited by Koross: Jul 13 2007, 10:52 AM

Then what is seiyu?

Same thing.

But I have to admit, whoever did Riful do a good job, she is exactly what I imagine would sound like from manga.

Nana Mizuki. More known as Fate Testarossa.

All other roles are loli side characters.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycloped...ople.php?id=436

Yeah Riful was how I imagined it.

Are there lolis in Claymore??? @.@

ok mayby riful but she is a monstrous loli.

Anyway I am liking how the episode's storyline now. You can see something big is at work here. Seeing Yoma and Awakened Ones banding together is one thing but purposely capturing Claymores to awaken them to add them into their team is another!!

Hopefully we can see Claire rocking in the next episode! Oh wait a second ... number 3 is going after her as well isn't she? Wow, Claire is getting heat from both sides.

Raki oh Raki ... mana lu?!?
XD

No 3 Galatea is most popular Claymore. She and Flora, no 8 are what I will call, supermodel Claymores instead of angelic and motherly Theresa.

You like that annoying brat? Seriously, I hope it's seiyuu kena change when he grow up.

HAve you read the manga?

Whats with number 8 why is she a supermodel too?

I like Jean... Esp how she looks in the anime. So cool. Theresa is always my no 1 but no 2 i will gladly named Jean. lolx

@fujkenasai

No I haven't read the manga.

@Gxen

He doesn't sound annoying to me. He has his moments though.

Its quite cool that the Claymores have nicknames. I was wondering what number was 'Windcutter' Flora. Hmmm, wonder when Claire will have a nickname ... if she is still accepted as a Claymore that is.

Flora was ranked #8.

Clare will be known as..rojak Clare, cause she takes parts from different people.

Shuuuuu

Rojak mee ayam satu, anee!

Flora is no 8, she is famous enough to earn the nickname Windcutter.

She and Galatea have that glamourous supermodel look all the way. Seriously.

This post has been edited by Stormy001_M1A2: Jul 15 2007, 04:31 AM

No rojak in mediaval times lar only salad so mixed salad lar.

Still do not get your super model.

erh guys, i tot this is anime thread...n y suddenly got flora with windcutter technique? =.=" should put in spoiler wat?

owh, btw, i read the manga.....but those who dont, they gonna b annoying aite? hehee...

@Stormy001_M1A2
i like flora....but....

Yeahla....all you manga ppl pls go your own thread kthxbi.

Yeah pity those fella, like myself last time, until there are so many spoilers I cant take it anymore and finished the manga up to the lates 1.

Actually No.4 already mention about Windcutter flora, but not her rank lol.

same with me now suffering waiting latest chapter....

haha....well....i tot she mention her as flora only...didnt mention the windcutter techniques? erh...wait! which espsd did mention abt flora?

See we are turning into the 妖魔(よま)　that we used to hate.

Yeah, the anime has already mentioned Flora, but we never mention anything about her Windcutter technique also...so no spoilers here.

But they did not mention about the number or her rank you all spoiled it there. T_T

B-but I was just answering Koross... T_T

Ok lor...next time no spoilers from me.

Just kiddding only nya I doubt the spoiler of a rank would do any harm.

haha...ok..thanks for the screenshot...now i rmmbr

huhu...well...u should noe how to differentiate between manga n anime

Yeah we should all remember

Flora and Galatea looks have template of Gia Carangi/Cindy Crawford on them. Hence my comment.

I see, thnx for explaining

yesterdya i marathon from 1 to 15...
awesome anime XD
at first a little boring then it starts to pick up...
it has similarities with bleach and of course the epic feel XD
tempted read manga but wait for anime haha...

Man, don't put kiddy Bleach together with Claymore, please.

LoL yeah bleach is kiddy.

(T__T)

yata! eclipse claymore epsd 16 is out!