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1hoohoo1
post Nov 15 2022, 01:44 PM

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There is no biometric verification prior to payment? So, basically anyone holding the phone can pay with it. Guess i will stick with samsung pay then.
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post Nov 15 2022, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(1hoohoo1 @ Nov 15 2022, 01:44 PM)
There is no biometric verification prior to payment? So, basically anyone holding the phone can pay with it. Guess i will stick with samsung pay then.
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question is whether got txn limit imposed (per txn and/or cumulative count/amount)


same like cc contactless, ppl take you card also can do contactless payment la

by default, banks impose PIN for amount >rm250 per txn.
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post Nov 15 2022, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(1hoohoo1 @ Nov 15 2022, 01:44 PM)
There is no biometric verification prior to payment? So, basically anyone holding the phone can pay with it. Guess i will stick with samsung pay then.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 15 2022, 01:55 PM)
question is whether got txn limit imposed (per txn and/or cumulative count/amount)
same like cc contactless, ppl take you card also can do contactless payment la

by default, banks impose PIN for amount >rm250 per txn.
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From google website its say payment limited RM250 before you need to unlock your phone, but you can Turn on Require device unlock for NFC for additional safety
Payment limits on a locked device
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No unlock needed for smaller payments

Important: For tap to pay transactions under a certain amount, you may not need to unlock your phone. For regional requirements, go to the table below.

You can only make a limited number of locked transactions before your phone asks you to unlock it. You must also  complete the transaction within a few minutes after you unlock it.

Tip: For added security, set up your phone so that it must be unlocked to complete a near field communication (NFC) transaction.

To turn on this setting:

    Go to Settings Settings gear.
    Tap Connected devices and thenConnection preferences and then NFC.
    Turn on Require device unlock for NFC.

If you can’t find this option, you may need to update your phone to the latest version of Android.


I can already see google wallet going to get bad rep in malaysia due to reviewer not knowing this

This post has been edited by Doraku: Nov 15 2022, 06:45 PM
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post Nov 15 2022, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Doraku @ Nov 15 2022, 02:26 PM)
From google website its say payment limited RM250 before you need to unlock your phone, but you can Turn on Require device unlock for NFC for additional safety
Payment limits on a locked device
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https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/12...a-locked-device
I can already see google wallet going to get bad rep in malaysia due to reviewer not knowing this
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Okay whats
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limited number of locked transactions
and Payment limits means? it is says you can do multiple rm250 payment before you need to unlock your phone to make another payment, or you can make multiple payment until the total payment you make reached rm250 before you needing to unlock your phone for another payment? for example you can make either make 5xRM50 payemnt or 1xRM250 payment before needing to unlock your phone for another payment

It is the latter then it will be more secure than cards, but for phone with fast fingerprint scanner it will be no brainer not to turn on Require device unlock for NFC.
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Nov 15 2022, 02:26 PM)
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I can already see google wallet going to get bad rep in malaysia due to reviewer not knowing this
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Yep...


This post has been edited by Doraku: Nov 15 2022, 07:40 PM
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post Nov 16 2022, 10:53 AM

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Maybank debit card visa can add on my LG phones, but for contactless payment Maybank visa debit card still not available.

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post Nov 16 2022, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 15 2022, 01:55 PM)
question is whether got txn limit imposed (per txn and/or cumulative count/amount)
same like cc contactless, ppl take you card also can do contactless payment la

by default, banks impose PIN for amount >rm250 per txn.
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Well, it is different if I give the card to another person for any payment. (My intention is to let he/she pay with my card)

There are some occasions that I lend the phone for other purposes (surf internet, etc) but definitely not payment related.
Since there is no second layer verification, he/ she can just pay with my phone easily without my authorization. Even though there is transaction count / value limit, it is still an unpleasant event.

And since I have a choice between samsung pay & Google wallet. I would still remain with samsung pay.

QUOTE(Doraku @ Nov 15 2022, 02:26 PM)
From google website its say payment limited RM250 before you need to unlock your phone, but you can Turn on Require device unlock for NFC for additional safety
Payment limits on a locked device
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https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/12...a-locked-device
I can already see google wallet going to get bad rep in malaysia due to reviewer not knowing this
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No, my Samsung S20FE don't have the setting "Require device unlock for NFC". It is already updated to the latest firmware.
The SoyaCincau reviewer also reported he don't have the setting in his Samsung S20FE & Xiaomi 11T Pro.

PSA: Google Pay boleh buat bayaran tanpa buka kunci skrin!
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post Nov 16 2022, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(1hoohoo1 @ Nov 16 2022, 02:04 PM)
Well, it is different if I give the card to another person for any payment. (My intention is to let he/she pay with my card)

There are some occasions that I lend the phone for other purposes (surf internet, etc) but definitely not payment related.
Since there is no second layer verification, he/ she can just pay with my phone easily without my authorization. Even though there is transaction count / value limit, it is still an unpleasant event.

And since I have a choice between samsung pay & Google wallet. I would still remain with samsung pay.
No, my Samsung S20FE don't have the setting "Require device unlock for NFC". It is already updated to the latest firmware.
The SoyaCincau reviewer also reported he don't have the setting in his Samsung S20FE & Xiaomi 11T Pro.

PSA: Google Pay boleh buat bayaran tanpa buka kunci skrin!
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I think depend on phone, i not yet install google wallet, the google pay already on setting page

user posted image

Must google auto install it through google play service, but no icon can launch on device
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post Nov 16 2022, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(1hoohoo1 @ Nov 15 2022, 01:44 PM)
There is no biometric verification prior to payment? So, basically anyone holding the phone can pay with it. Guess i will stick with samsung pay then.
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That is also like saying you'll disable contactless payment on your cards.

It's like paywave, you can set limits.

Also, if you're on latest android, you can turn off NFC payments if device is locked, check it in your NFC settings if you have that option or not.
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just want to ask, so i cannot use cimb islamic card with google wallet?
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post Nov 16 2022, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Nov 16 2022, 02:53 PM)
I think depend on phone, i not yet install google wallet, the google pay already on setting page

user posted image

Must google auto install it through google play service, but no icon can launch on device
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I installed Google Wallet but has the exact same setting with you.
Based on the faq, in your 1st image, there should be got another column for "Require device unlock for NFC" setting.


QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Nov 16 2022, 02:55 PM)
That is also like saying you'll disable contactless payment on your cards.

It's like paywave, you can set limits.

Also, if you're on latest android, you can turn off NFC payments if device is locked, check it in your NFC settings if you have that option or not.
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As i explained earlier, phone has multiple functions and it is more often for me to hand out my phone to another person for many reasons, but not for payment related.
Whereas, card is different, if i dont use the card, i will keep in drawer / card holder. And it is rare for me to hand out the card to other person.

I am not trying to bring down Google wallet, is just i feel more secure if there another layer of verification prior to payment like another 2 competitors.

Can enlighten me methods to set limit in Google Wallet? And what limit that you mean?

I'm on latest firmware (android 12) but there no option for that setting.

QUOTE(1hoohoo1 @ Nov 16 2022, 02:04 PM)
Well, it is different if I give the card to another person for any payment. (My intention is to let he/she pay with my card)

There are some occasions that I lend the phone for other purposes (surf internet, etc) but definitely not payment related.
Since there is no second layer verification, he/ she can just pay with my phone easily without my authorization. Even though there is transaction count / value limit, it is still an unpleasant event.

And since I have a choice between samsung pay & Google wallet. I would still remain with samsung pay.
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post Nov 16 2022, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(1hoohoo1 @ Nov 16 2022, 06:28 PM)
I installed Google Wallet but has the exact same setting with you.
Based on the faq, in your 1st image, there should be got another column for "Require device unlock for NFC" setting.
As i explained earlier, phone has multiple functions and it is more often for me to hand out my phone to another person for many reasons, but not for payment related.
Whereas, card is different, if i dont use the card, i will keep in drawer / card holder. And it is rare for me to hand out the card to other person.

I am not trying to bring down Google wallet, is just i feel more secure if there another layer of verification prior to payment like another 2 competitors.

Can enlighten me methods to set limit in Google Wallet? And what limit that you mean?

I'm on latest firmware (android 12) but there no option for that setting.
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turn off nfc. only on when want to use
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QUOTE(1hoohoo1 @ Nov 16 2022, 06:28 PM)
I installed Google Wallet but has the exact same setting with you.
Based on the faq, in your 1st image, there should be got another column for "Require device unlock for NFC" setting.
As i explained earlier, phone has multiple functions and it is more often for me to hand out my phone to another person for many reasons, but not for payment related.
Whereas, card is different, if i dont use the card, i will keep in drawer / card holder. And it is rare for me to hand out the card to other person.

I am not trying to bring down Google wallet, is just i feel more secure if there another layer of verification prior to payment like another 2 competitors.

Can enlighten me methods to set limit in Google Wallet? And what limit that you mean?

I'm on latest firmware (android 12) but there no option for that setting.
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does google pay not auto on off NFC?
because samsung pay, when we open on lock screen, it auto ON NFC, after we wave it auto OFF NFC
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post Nov 17 2022, 03:09 PM

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Anybody managed to use this? I tried at Petronas, McD and one other shop. All failed. I am not sure what I did wrong. Cards are linked successfully.

Perhaps some terminal cannot support? So far the failed terminals are Maybank and Public Bank.
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QUOTE(Slekerz @ Nov 16 2022, 10:53 AM)
Maybank debit card visa can add on my LG phones, but for contactless payment Maybank visa debit card still not available.
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You can add any debit card into your google account, it's one of the in-app purchase methods.

However, the card can't be added into google pay.


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QUOTE(spyrr @ Nov 17 2022, 03:09 PM)
Anybody managed to use this? I tried at Petronas, McD and one other shop. All failed. I am not sure what I did wrong. Cards are linked successfully.

Perhaps some terminal cannot support? So far the failed terminals are Maybank and Public Bank.
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tested yesterday at toastbox. it is working
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Just tried today,works well
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post Nov 20 2022, 04:47 PM

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Changed my phone Secure Element setting to HCE Wallet, reboot and it works.

Google Pay is my favorite way to pay right now. Just unlock and tap. It's more convenient than other ewallets. I can leave my card at home.

The only thing I wonder is will it work without internet connection? I will probably try it out someday.

QUOTE(spyrr @ Nov 17 2022, 03:09 PM)
Anybody managed to use this? I tried at Petronas, McD and one other shop. All failed. I am not sure what I did wrong. Cards are linked successfully.

Perhaps some terminal cannot support? So far the failed terminals are Maybank and Public Bank.
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post Nov 20 2022, 06:26 PM

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When will Maybank cards be supported?


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Ayam tried on JG maybank terminal, not working. Showed terminated on the terminal.

What happen?

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